Yeah this seems unlikely.

And yeah, this isn't going to happen imo. Sure, GoT throws curveballs, but they're not killing off the Lannisters now. They've sunk too much time into building the Lannister characters to kill them all off.

This technically seems like a possibility, if it wasn't for the absurdity of bringing the king and all of his entourage to The Mountain rather than just having him come to KL.

One of the problems I have speculating about this is I have no idea how big fleet and army Stannis has and how it compares to the Lannisters and whatever allies they have. Maybe Stannis could sack the city and the Lannisters flee to one of their allies (although that doesn't seem like a very Lannistery thing to do) and we have this scenario play out. Maybe ending with the Tyrells doublecrossing the Lannisters to tie it together with the KL story-line they've been building in s4. I'm not sure why you think the Tyrells have to be in cahoots with the Iron Bank. All I know is that LF borrowed money from them as master of coin, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's on good terms with them.

My prediction is that we'll see this Lannisters vs Olenna/LF situation play out before any involvement by Stannis.

That's possible. Melisandre seems more interested in the actual wall though, not having Winterfell as a stronghold.

This is a good point. I wouldn't totally write off Mance's chances of advancing past the wall though. I'm not even sure what Mance's game plan is, but it seems like he'd be interested in holding the wall because he's concerned about the white walkers as well. Maybe not.

Regardless, this is the theory I like best. Important to note what Stannis saw in the fire which made him believe in the Lord of Light and that he's the future king: "a great battle in the snow". This could mean he's at the wall or that he's in KL, at the time where both Dany and Bran have had visions of snow at the iron throne. I think all of those visions will prove to be correct, it's just hard to tell what exactly they're about.

I think Stannis storyline will gain steam now. And I already enjoy the Greyjoys, except for the botched scene this season where Yara tried to save Theon I think it's been top notch.

Prediction: Stannis will go north, book it!

Yeah I was thinking about this. He had 30 of their ships, not sure if he had the pirates themselves though.

Hmmm that changes things. Assuming Saan has approximately the same number of ships as he did then, 30 more to Stannis' army shouldn't be nearly enough for a surprise invasion of KL directly from Braavos. He's probably going to have to amass an army some other way. That could mean he goes to the North like my other idea, or it could mean something else like he ralllies people in Essos with Iron Bank money

Either way, if he kills the Greyjoys, I'll be happy. It's not like I think he will kill them, but god I hate them so much. I thought for sure there was some long game with Theon that will bring him into the thick of the overarching GoT story, but it just appears he's a sad sap and an inconsequential derail. That's all the Greyjoys have been: a waste of time

Yara seemed to have very little interest in Winterfell so I'm guessing she didn't.

Wouldn't it be glorious if Stannis became another Dany.

For a while, Theon was one of my favorite characters. I saw great potential in developing his character from an entitled snob dickhead to something great. The torture helped fit into this by way of tearing down his ego, and he could rise out of those ashes into somebody looking to help others instead of act selfishly. But it's closing in on four seasons now and there's no sign of this arc

The Greyjoys seem more like something that was a good idea at first, but when all the pieces come together, they're pointless. The rebellion of the five kings or whatever it was didn't even feel like Balon was one of them

I think the Greyjoys were great in s2 and I loved the Theon/Ramsey storyline in s3 but I agree I don't see where it's going from here. They could all be killed off right now and I'd still be happy with their part in the series.

I'm still a little excited to see what kind of mission Ramsey is about to send Theon.

As per Melisandres prediction Arya is lock to live long enough to kill off at least a few people on her list btw.

Also, it seems this season is based on book 4 and book 5. Does that mean the next season will be the first where the TV show will be ahead of the books?

It's also a bit weird that this is the first season based on two books considering it's the slowest season imo.

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I read an article that said that the show will be finished before the books because otherwise we'd have to wait until 2020 or something for the final season.

Killed both Cat and Karstark.

Then you're no better than the Lannisters etc.

Do you want to fight with honor or do you want to win?

Ned fought with honor and he's dead. Robb needed Karstark and his men, so you can't kill him. It's as simple as that.

Re: Karstark

I would have locked him in the dungeon for the duration of the war and still killed the men who were with him.

Re: Talisa

Why couldn't Robb tell Walder and the Freys that he still hasn't betrayed them? His promise was to marry a Frey girl of his choosing when the fighting was over. Well, Talisa aside, he still has plenty of time to fulfill his obligation. I'm not sure why he didn't raise that point. Sure, it looks rotten to Talisa (unless she's in on some kind of trick), but Grandpa Frey would need to accept it, no?

#TeamLittlefinger gonna need to add some roster space!

GOAT episode

Little Finger!

No episode next week? Booo

Memorial Day, makes sense. People are traveling

Wow, back to back great episodes.

BOOM, jumped out of my chair when Oberlyn entered that cell.

Sansa finally getting it, and Peter is cleaning house!!!

It's OBERYN jfc

Dany having sex with that dude was terrible storytelling

At least we got to see LF make the crazy lady fly

Wow really? I thought that was pretty weak

Anyone who's responsible for the deaths of Joffrey and Lysa can't be all bad in my book.

It was far from weak.

That was a great scene in tyrion cell between he and Oberyn. Both actors really brought it all. Fantastic

Oberyn's story about meeting Tyrion as a baby was really great. Showed how deep cersei's hatred for Tyrion is. And now we know she's grabbed both of her brothers' *****.