i was obv being uber-snarky, but the q&a suggests that they had an unusual amount of power & influence from before the series started. it didn't even really seem to make sense that they got the series to begin with, then they ****ed up the pilot, but kept chugging along. also seems like they sidelined grrm along the way.
(he might not have cared too much, count the money and focus on his books instead)

I know you all think it was awful, but I just rewatched season 8, and I loved it. I thought everything was resolved wonderfully, even Bran becoming King. He DOES have the best story, if you think about it. Not his fault it wasn't told as well as the other ones.

Everyone's actions and fate were pretty much foretold in the beginning.

Nothing is ever going to be perfect or exactly the way you want it, but Game of Thrones will always be one of the very best and most impressive television shows ever produced.

Feel free to whine and tell me I'm wrong, because I know you will.

Season 8 was an insult to everyone and their unborn children. Benioff and Weiss will surely go to hell.

There's a reason most people don't talk about Game of Thrones anymore. It's like a family member who raped a child. You just don't mention that utter abomination because of the pain it's caused to so many.

well that's like your opinion, dom


honestly, it got bad after like season 4 or 5, and the last two seasons were kind of embarrassing

ok

The endpoints of the character arcs are fine, since GRRM gave them to D&D, but the ways they got there are just... bad. It's like someone started to draw a bunch of parabolic arcs with initial values that make sense and paths that follow quadratic equations, and then they got bored towards the end and just moved the pencil around randomly on the way to finishing at the correct endpoint.

Bran as king is reasonable, but how do you reconcile him saying his plan was to be king all along ("Why do you think I came all this way") with him telling us for several seasons that he's just the Three Eyed Raven and not a Stark or even a person anymore? If he knows everything now, he knew Dany was going to burn King's Landing. Tyrion thinks this all-seeing sociopath is the best choice for king?

Bran's story CANNOT be the best from his or our perspective when it is poorly told and incomplete. That's not how it works. That's not how any of this works. It's like removing all the dialogue from Act V of Hamlet and leaving only the stage directions for everyone dying. It would become just as bad a story for Horatio to tell as it would be for us to read.

"Horatio, what?? They all just... died? How??"
"I don't really... tell stories anymore."
"What? That doesn't make sense. You did a fine job of telling most of a story, and then you just gave up."
"Why do you think I came all the way to tell you this story?"

ok

lol, Dom gonna Dom.

2020 has broken Dom.

Hey, thanks for spoiling act v of Hamlet for me!

Bran the Beta is just not king material, let's face it. Now that Queen's Gambit redhead chess-playing chick, she might work. Gotta keep her away from the mead though. Lock up the mead cabinet.

Argh, somebody else post something so mine isn't the last one hanging up there every time I look at 2p2. I thought my cheap shot at King Bran's manliness would stir heated controversy but I guess pop culture has moved on by now.

It says a lot about how quickly pop culture moved off GoT when during the various lockdowns worldwide the last 9 months I cant remember anyone making an effort to rewatch GoT, and instead going for BB/Sopranos/Wire etc

unfortunately literally everyone agreed that no one had a better story


yeah it's wild how bad they ****ed up the landing

shouldn't, but could even jeopardize the franchise, which by all rights should be a star wars/marvel type machine

Has anyone heard when the prequel 'House of the Dragon' will be shown?

In fairness, Sopranos/Wire were earlier than GOT and by a fair margin.

I understand they're going to make a TV series out of Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time series. I wonder how many seasons they're planning to cover his thirteen (or twelve, or whatever it was) books?

All: please remember that kioshk challenged Bran's manliness!

They’re still in the casting phase. It’s at least 2 years out.

Bran the Beta Cuck becoming king is totally something GRRM would do, in keeping with the "cripples, bastards, and broken things" theme.

It doesn't make sense for D&D, I don't think, but that's hard to say. I'm not sure they contributed any original content to their expensive film school. It doesn't seem like Benioff, just based on watching the film version of 25th Hour.

i mean, if it made sense for d&d there probably would have been something in the show to indicate that, but


them doing that bc it's grrm's ending + "NO ONE WILL EXPECT IT!!!" (from the show) is a funny scenario to consider

GRRM has finally given in. Development on a Dunk and Egg series begins at HBO:

https://variety.com/2021/tv/news/gam...bo-1234889520/

How did I not know this? I just got a nerd boner!

Don't hold your breath (well, Sir Hunt, plz do, I bet you can't even hold your breath for 5 minutes), these GoT-adjacent series in development have been failing hard.

if they're well made it'll be fine

but there's pressure to kind of nail it based on how got ended

don't think the degree of difficulty is all that high, but stranger things have happened

They also filmed a pilot with Naomi Watts that we'll probably never see. That series would have centered around the original Long Night, thousands of years in the past. But, HBO smartly realized that the audience doesn't really care about the Walkers anymore.