Jon is the rightful heir to the throne. Why the **** did his own family send him to the wall? Makes absolutely zero sense. Why was he not mentioned one time in that ridiculously awful scene where they voted Bran king. Tyrion convinced him to do Dany and then suddenly out of nowhere "people love stories, who has better story than Bran". Erm ****ing Jon the rightful heir? Him being the rightful heir means he didn't even commit a crime by killing Dany. It also meant Varys's notes were pointless. Also the unsullied, if they were the problem (which is absurd, Greyworm would have executed Jon instantly but for some reason didn't) they ****ed off never to be seen again anyway. Then Jon's family are just like bye now. Why the **** did Bran even tell him his true parentage since it was totally meaningless in the end? Bran refused to become Lord Of Winterfell because he was not able to be a lord since he wasn't actually Bran. Now he's like yeah let me be king it's why I came all this way. Get ****ed. Just an absolute ****show.

Bran is king cos he had a good story. LOL.

A Game of Cringe.

I would watch a Robin spinoff

Jman, Are you lost? The Exiled have this thread in your new home too.

Nobody was banned, genius.

Hey guys, shot in the dark but did anyone bet "Who Will Kill Cersei Lannister?" on Bovada, or know someone who did? I bet it with some friends and we can't figure out if it's a payout for Daenerys or a push.

These were the odds listed under Game of Thrones Specials - "Who Will Kill Cersei Lannister?" on 5/5/19 at 6:00pm PST.

Arya Stark +150
Jamie Lannister +150
Cersei Lannister (Suicide) +500
Does Not Perish At Series End +600
Tyrion Lannister +700
Jon Snow +2000
Sansa Stark +2000
Daenerys Targaryen +2500
Euron Greyjoy +2500
Qyburn +2500
The Mountain +3300

That totally should be a payout on Dany, Dany caused Cersei to die and had specific intent to do so, i.e. she murdered Cersei. I mean you wouldn't get out of a murder charge by saying "nah lol I mean I torched the building, but how was I to know she would die".

Bovada will, as always, do whatever they like though.

r/sportsbook: "Bovada graded "Who will kill Cersei Lannister?" - Daenerys Targaryen 0.0 (+2200) as a WIN for me

Bookmaker graded :"“Who Will Kill Cersei Lannister?” - Field (+2102)" as a WIN for me.

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Clarke's acting in that scene was incredible, too, she really worked overtime this season because they gave her like 20 episodes of character work in 5.5 episodes of screentime.

we were leaning that way in case we needed to decide ourselves, especially after Arya's line "I came to kill Cersei, but your queen got here first"



Thank you!

tbh, it was Drogon that torched the building.

The finale is this coming Sunday, right?

the iron throne itself caused dany to go mad and is the true killer

this was the main problem of the last episode

replace dany with Ygritte(who turns mad and burns KL down) and we as viewer can immediately empathize with Jon and the gut-wrenching dilemma he finds himself in.
the situation had massive potential with proper character development.

as is? we are left with a "come on dude just get this over with you weak-ass MY QUEEN moron" situation.
the whole dany - jon ending/chemistry just felt so wrong as they did it.

Greyworm

the whole 2 seasons had the problem that the writers knew what they wanted to portray but had no clue how to do it(did the good writers quit?)

ygritte - jon and
dany - jon
love stories are the perfect example

the former had a lot of teasing, cocky&funny, push and pull and chemistry
the latter? felt like a forced marriage

Why everybody think Bran is not worth the thron?
Bran had by far the longest way to go from a child who can not run to a "man" who can see everything.. He has of course a story. His story is to never give up! And to trust you own path. His path was to grow in loneliness. This is the most difficult (because nobody really like to be a lone) path but is the path to becoming wise and to rest in himself.
To rest itself is maybe one of the most underrated characteristic. But also is one of the powerfull one in a leader position.
Bran is a wise man and of course his story make sense.

Also helped that Rose Leslie can act and was banging Kit irl.

I posted a twitter thread earlier and I think it really explains the problems the writers had. The first half of the series could focus mostly on characters and building stories. The second half had to wrap them up and it’s much harder to do really fully developed characters when you’re forced to get them to do very specific actions at very specific times.

Of course one way to help with that is to not have to rush the specific actions and events. But that’s not what happened. And so this whole series was one awkward thing happening after another.

Not interested in any spinoffs now after this season whatsoever but they won, this season was poor to say the least and also a lot of copying other TV/movie **** that casuals liked and I think it worked.

Fans of the show ofc hated all of this but they dgaf because $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Finale was okay, actually was 20 min too long for the same **** and yeah they wanted avenues for a ton of spinoffs, guess Arya's makes the most sense, nobody would give a **** about greyworm and well idk how to do drogon's.

its less where the ended per say than how it was executed and handled over the last season. Like Jon not choosing his fate by refusing the throne given it is rightfully his to claim and everyone knows it because of Varys. Jon being forced to rejoin the Night Watch (which clearly doesn't actually exist) because Greyworm is mad and wants justice was the dumbest ****ing thing I could ever imagine. Also why is there even a need for a Nights Watch when there is a giant ****ing hole in the wall and most of the wildlings in the north are dead.

Tyrion talking Jon into killing Dany in the span of 5 minutes and then Jon being confused afterwards if he did the right thing. Tyrion talking everyone into choosing the King. Just everything about all the characters was so bad. Why the **** is Davos even there as he was always on Jon's side. Brienne joining the kingsguard?? When was her loyalty/oath towards Bran?

Arya taking off for the unknown made sense. Sansa being a clone of Cersei and ****ing over her own brother made sense I guess. The Starks just agreeing to **** over Jon when they were all aligned against Dany was like wtf.

Bran being king because he's got a great story. WTF.

Jamie's ending made sense but it was executed incredibly bad. Cersei's death was incredibly weak and she deserved a better ending. Dany's death was weak given Jon had already shown everyone he was clearly upset with her and Dany was already suspicious of him from episode 5.

Just terrible writing all around when it came to story, character arcs, etc.

can't wait to read about the drama behind the scenes that caused all the talented writers to get pushed aside by these prima donnas.

The more I think about it the less I buy any of this.

You have an all-time war criminal who burned hundreds of thousands to death. When she's assassinated you don't let her main advisers stay on to make all the key decisions for them realm. You execute them.

I don’t think anyone got pushed aside. Same writers throughout. They just were adaptation specialists and not skilled at writing original content.

Pod save america recapped the finale for anyone interested. It was a pretty good episode.