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04-04-2018 , 05:08 PM
title says it all, his friend he and his friend Curt(if i knew his 2+2 name id post it) played head games after offering me a stake. Thefox is a bad reg imo so go ahead n bum hunt him. they asked for coaching from me and stable operation info etc.
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04-04-2018 , 05:12 PM
long story short dont waste time dealing with him he doesn't know what hes doing himself. fox just thinks hes good used to play on NJ sites and likes to splash around every night but dont fall for the scam or his stupidity.
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04-04-2018 , 05:14 PM
Two things:

You refer to "fox" in both of your posts, but your title says "theox_23". Did you mean "thefox_23"?

What was the scam?
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04-04-2018 , 05:20 PM
i did mean thefox23, and he offered me a stake, said it was on the way then when it wasnt there i saw it wasnt there i asked and they ignored me and said wait till friday. They also asked for but i didn't send Monteroy's staking contract which never got sent. Basically they hustled me to get my staking info promising me stake the next day and then pulled some millenial bs. I took several days off from my grind hence we started talking about all of this.

Last edited by big bwalz; 04-04-2018 at 05:39 PM.
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04-04-2018 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Two things:

You refer to "fox" in both of your posts, but your title says "theox_23". Did you mean "thefox_23"?

What was the scam?
can you fix my thread title my bad.. Ya basically they wanted to pay me to play on a stake or so it seemed but when they got the info they went MIA with i bs reply.
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04-04-2018 , 05:31 PM
is staking allowed on GP? if not who get banned the staker or the stakee or both? Im super mad about the amount of time George(thefox23) has wasted of mine and i feel he used me to gain info. If that ok fine but i feel i should let the community know cuz it was very unpleasant for me and im tryining to help other from the same exploit.
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04-04-2018 , 05:41 PM
long story short dont deal with THEFOX23 or whatever it is, hes not that great at poker and its more trouble than its worth and their shady/stupid depending on how u look at it.
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04-04-2018 , 05:52 PM
side note Mr Fett. can you please find and link my post I made about the sng game structure when GP made bad changes on 10/13/17 and i commented about 2 months later - middle of last december? did gp delete it and if so why and i want it added back. I cant find my posts anywhere and ive spent literally 5+ hrs looking for my old posts in this subfurum and cant find them. did GP delete the sng and cash game stats that rutlege smitty and i myself spent so much time to compile and post? I was looking for em the other day and again after hrs i couldsn't find anything? If thats been deleted why and is this ok? Gues I shoulda saved the word doc i had pffft.
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04-04-2018 , 07:02 PM
First off nobody ever asked mr bwalz for coaching. He was offered a small stake from a friend of mine and Everytime he was asked to agree to something he basically objected and said he wanted to do it his way instead. After being lienent and agreeing to his terms a couple times it became very tiring when he would rage message about things should be done his way. Nearly every night of the 4 or 5 days of dealing with him he would send a very agressive message towards the end of the night and apologize about it the next day. Then today he messaged demanding a higher stake amount thats when he was told that wasn't happening and he went into another rage about how I'm a bad player and don't know what I'm doing ( a few messages earlier he was telling me he was inspired by watching me and couldn't wait to start). My friend has to block him from skype because of all the crazy messages. He also tried to blackmail me saying if I didn't send money to his PayPal he would then get me banned from 2p2 and global poker. I would advise anyone to stay far away from the guy and never associate with him. Part of me feels bad for him actually.
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04-04-2018 , 07:08 PM
Also he was never told told money was on the way that is another lie. This thread should be closed. It's all lies. I was nothing but nice to this guy and he sends wild threats and insults on skype. I have all the screenshots as well. Honestly i am starting to think his idea was possibly to be the one doing the scamming.

Last edited by Fisherprice1; 04-04-2018 at 07:16 PM.
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04-04-2018 , 09:10 PM
i didnt bring it up in the 1st place how coulda i been a scammer mr borrak?
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04-04-2018 , 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Fisherprice1
Also he was never told told money was on the way that is another lie. This thread should be closed. It's all lies. I was nothing but nice to this guy and he sends wild threats and insults on skype. I have all the screenshots as well. Honestly i am starting to think his idea was possibly to be the one doing the scamming.
nothing but nice while ui drag me along and keep lying and asking for lessons on how staking works ya ok george
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04-04-2018 , 09:54 PM
should I post all your messages of rants and threats? You pretended to be a nice guy for a while. You would blow up about things not going your way then apologize later hoping to cure things so you would get some money. Then when you demanded 3x the amount you agreed with that was the last straw. You told me you were staked for a long time with another 2p2 member and when I looked into that there was no record of you being staked. There was a record of you being coached by this person. There were a few things you said that were proven to be false. It really seems like you are compulsive liar.
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04-04-2018 , 09:59 PM
Evidence or it didnt happen
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04-04-2018 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Fisherprice1
should I post all your messages of rants and threats? You pretended to be a nice guy for a while. You would blow up about things not going your way then apologize later hoping to cure things so you would get some money. Then when you demanded 3x the amount you agreed with that was the last straw. You told me you were staked for a long time with another 2p2 member and when I looked into that there was no record of you being staked. There was a record of you being coached by this person. There were a few things you said that were proven to be false. It really seems like you are compulsive liar.
ok maybhe monteroy can chime in ehre? was i or was i not staked by global staking for the better par of 3 yrs? Would you even beleive him if he said I was? As far as getting frustrated, ya we had agreed to a deal and then when you guys tried to tell me a 4 table cap and daily reporting after I'd said and you agreed to weekly I was less than excited. Then when you decided to do a little peronality test and tell em another 3 days to see how id react that was the lst straw with me. I didnt get mad lst night but then i thought about and decided after what I've seen from you and Curt so far that it's not worth my time to teach you how to run a stable and play small games if that's how ur gonna be so I asked for enough to make it worth my time. And ya im not impressed with ur game, after sseing you play and learning the level of supervision over me u wanted i could tell that wasnt gonna work either.
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04-04-2018 , 10:07 PM
what kind of record do you expect to prove i had a stake from monteroy and losched16 lol? not sure what that even means?
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04-04-2018 , 10:08 PM
im over this gl FP do what u want im glad i didnt get further invloved sorry it was a waste of time for everybody. And i didnt threaten anybody not sure what u mean there either, unless u mean i said id make a thread here
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04-04-2018 , 10:09 PM
for future ref u shoulda just messaged the person i said iw as staked by that posts here all the time, he woulda told u i can play but im a head case, woulda saved everybody a lot of time n effort. Your vetting game needs work lol
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04-04-2018 , 10:15 PM
Nobody ever asked you for supervision or help. You were the one offered help. I play in one game what the stake you were being offered was so please stop acting like you were offering help. As far as the backing you were talking about I was told there was no history of it.
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04-04-2018 , 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
for future ref u shoulda just messaged the person i said iw as staked by that posts here all the time, he woulda told u i can play but im a head case, woulda saved everybody a lot of time n effort. Your vetting game needs work lol
Buddy, how many times do I have to tell you that's what I did. The reference did not tell me that you were a "high caliber player" like you said you were. He said he couldn't remember what you were offered but think it was a coaching deal
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04-04-2018 , 10:23 PM
And I still was willing to have my friend help you after that with an offer, but you went full blown rampage and wanted 3x what was agreed upon. That's it end of story. Also your dileusion of me being a Russian player stealing your micro info is hilarious.
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04-04-2018 , 10:45 PM
Can you clearly explain how you think they intended to scam you? Or post chat logs of it?
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04-04-2018 , 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by big bwalz
i did mean thefox23, and he offered me a stake, said it was on the way then when it wasnt there i saw it wasnt there i asked and they ignored me and said wait till friday. They also asked for but i didn't send Monteroy's staking contract which never got sent. Basically they hustled me to get my staking info promising me stake the next day and then pulled some millenial bs. I took several days off from my grind hence we started talking about all of this.
I don't think scam means what you think it means.
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04-04-2018 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Fisherprice1
Nobody ever asked you for supervision or help. You were the one offered help. I play in one game what the stake you were being offered was so please stop acting like you were offering help. As far as the backing you were talking about I was told there was no history of it.
who told you there was no history, that was incorrect lol. again find better sources. whatever man im done with all this.
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04-04-2018 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Fisherprice1
Buddy, how many times do I have to tell you that's what I did. The reference did not tell me that you were a "high caliber player" like you said you were. He said he couldn't remember what you were offered but think it was a coaching deal
ya i wasnt high caliber thats true but whatever I also didnt deal with him much thats fine he doesnt remember. I didnt make him heaps of $ but I sent Simon $ almost every week and dealt with losched16 on an almost daily basis. I think Monteroy did cash games and group chat which i didnt really participate in. Thanks monteroy for an accurate account of my playing history for your stable geez.
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