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Situation with spin coach/stake school how to solve it ?? Situation with spin coach/stake school how to solve it ??

04-07-2019 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobo Fett
Like I said, hard for us to judge based on one side of the information. I've mostly just been observing that you continue to talk about everything they did wrong, and have yet to take any responsibility for your action - even again in this last post.
I take responsibility just saying as a teachers they could do more then let me go to 5s
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04-07-2019 , 06:17 PM
as they take new players without any experience just baked students like me and put them in position with this amount of money. before me was a player who made -30k, but they sold him to another school. couldn`t sold me cause of a fast downhill.
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04-09-2019 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 3G12K45
I take responsibility just saying as a teachers they could do more then let me go to 5s
I feel your frustration in being stuck at the 5s but blaming the teachers doesn't make what you did any more ok. They moved you down in stakes because your results were bad. This is the right decision. If you crush the 5s you can move back up, you aren't stuck there forever. They're trying to reduce the damage until they can get you moving in the right direction. They don't benefit at all from keeping you there if you are winning.

You need to take responsibility for what's happened here. The teachers moving you down in stakes isn't the cause of your negative results. The teachers moving you down in stakes isn't the cause of you stealing the stable's money. I get that you're in a hard spot in life right now but you need to be accountable for the things that you've done wrong. The first step in moving forward is repaying the money that you took from them. It's still possible to turn things around.
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04-10-2019 , 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by xSCWx
I feel your frustration in being stuck at the 5s but blaming the teachers doesn't make what you did any more ok. They moved you down in stakes because your results were bad. This is the right decision. If you crush the 5s you can move back up, you aren't stuck there forever. They're trying to reduce the damage until they can get you moving in the right direction. They don't benefit at all from keeping you there if you are winning.

You need to take responsibility for what's happened here. The teachers moving you down in stakes isn't the cause of your negative results. The teachers moving you down in stakes isn't the cause of you stealing the stable's money. I get that you're in a hard spot in life right now but you need to be accountable for the things that you've done wrong. The first step in moving forward is repaying the money that you took from them. It's still possible to turn things around.
Things is that I`m gonna get them back that money either way. But yo, playing 100s 5k sample ? with 35ch ev ? I was a horse of course I wanted to play as much as I can doesn't matter to play poker or to play sports. coach responsibility is to see how the things are going for dude and not just let him play for a long time then come back from watching other 80 players see results and say oh, go back to outplay that money. what could I say or do in that potinion, I was listening to them from the start that's how I managed to get to 100s, then they admitted that they probably did mistake by letting me play for such a long time with that ch ev, but for that mistake work needs to be done by me and let I say hell of a work I mean I trusted them as a coaches. What you are saying im thinking about every day, even though they are ignoring me now but thinking about should I come back and grind from 5s again what should I do I feel bad, should I feel sorry, that's why im writing here. I got also other opinions like of course its their fault and that I should not take blame for it and they of course gonna put blame only on me. I feel some blame for it but I feel if someone would be there for me it wouldn't be so bad and as a teachers they had to be there for me.
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04-11-2019 , 08:00 PM
What I see about my self as majority say I don't take responsibility. Now I`m not playing for 3 months and I see that was kinda desperate for money and you know I was doing my best, beating 60s reaching 100s in a year and know nothing about spins format and variance, it was a surprise for me to not cash out any money on 60s with good ch ev and trying to beat 100s everything has turned against me and since i believed in coaches to do what they say to get a result they said (to share profits) and there was no profit for a loong time then they moved me down because of understandable reasons, and in that time no support except finansing and saying that i was a winning player when i wasnt i stopped believing in them and just started to see them as people who wants profit from their massive number of players and then the worst became even worse. Thing is what i bacame most angry about is that at the worst times insted of talking in human way and normally just giving support they started to talk about depts and courts and all paper stuff, like suddenly when i stopped to be profitable talk has changed and thats what kicked me off even to try and get up one more time for them. One grinder before me reached 30k minus and wasnt happy at all at this stable but was still playing 100s and he asked to be sold and was sold to 651 team and got ev deal and as i know is happy working there. Although to not say only bad thing stable are organized well and has one strong coach on every level, low-mid-high.

Last edited by 3G12K45; 04-11-2019 at 08:10 PM.
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04-11-2019 , 08:51 PM
paragraphs or please learn to press the enter key.

but dude you aren't taking any. sure they deserve some. but if you went that far down.. you realize they are only doing it because they want you back in the mindset right?

they dont actually expect you to grind out that makeup playing just 5's... they just want you back in the right mindset and to put some wins together.


you really have to stop saying the same thing over and over. theres a reason why you stopped getting responses and that is a big one.
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04-11-2019 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPoo8
paragraphs or please learn to press the enter key.

but dude you aren't taking any. sure they deserve some. but if you went that far down.. you realize they are only doing it because they want you back in the mindset right?

they dont actually expect you to grind out that makeup playing just 5's... they just want you back in the right mindset and to put some wins together.


you really have to stop saying the same thing over and over. theres a reason why you stopped getting responses and that is a big one.

You said it, there is some. Responses i did not get after deal was stopped and it was stopped after i was not playing now for 3months. How could we work together when they didn`t want to take any responsibility that made me even more angry about my part of responsibility lets not just even talk and i`m not talking about it cause its obvious but i had my own reasons. I`m taking all responsibility but im not talking about it cause its obvious and you guys mentioning it like i do not talk about cause its not my fault, i was clicking the mouse when it went to 5s, yes, I was if that makes it more clear but im just asking to see why maybe it happened and if it was really only my fault in perspective, to see it more openly and not from that side that they are backers so they probably right, they indroduced themselves first of all as a school and as a teachers and not just a guys who finance you but as a teachers. I was not going to school to just be staked by some dudes and play randomly. That is my point. And poker as you all know is not only strategy. So if you indroduce yourself as a school and as a teachers i mean how you can just blame your student when he ****ed up by listening to you... of course they have their own weaknesses which maybe as a young school didn`t want to admit. but ye to make it clear, look, i see my fault here okay, its clear. I just want to take a look from my side as well. ye its a business why should they care about some dude who is not profitable that's okay.


And all that stuff they said about courts and everything it`s seems now that it was a bluff cause months past and that even stops me more to come back and grind for them and learn with them while they could only show some real support for not only myself but for example dude before me who was sold. I don't know, maybe just how it works, as they say .. before joining they say we are a school we teach and everything, after **** happens they say we only finance and give a strategy . wow. bravo

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04-11-2019 , 09:39 PM
And what do you think about 50k sample size and 60/40 cut ? 60school part and forty for a student ?
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04-11-2019 , 09:46 PM
My goal was here to share story to see if others see even a little bit of their responsibility here, cause my responsibility I know even if you don't see that but school said that it was 100% mine and since I wasn't feeling that way I had to put it here to see from other point of view and I got a feedback and it helped to sleep more calm at night so thank you.
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04-17-2019 , 10:39 PM
at the end of the day they're out the 26k you're down
you also stole 500 from them
give back the 500 you stole and quit poker. it isn't for you.

you aren't taking all of the responsibility- you're taking none of it. they lose 26k , you walk away.
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04-19-2019 , 04:45 PM
300*,okay ,yes I`m not taking it all

Last edited by 3G12K45; 04-19-2019 at 04:51 PM.
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04-24-2019 , 10:01 AM
Guys what do you think. Should stable take any responsibility for exerting pressure with fake contract by always mentioning court, trial, law when in reality they do not pay taxes and do nothing for almost half year and probably won`t do anything but always was putting pressure which was something to withstand.
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