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01-11-2012 , 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
I think if I called enough times I could eventually find someone, but the poker room people were scared to give it out, so they had me call corporate. The people there had no idea what was going on. I left a message for some director guy, he could be out of the office today I suppose.
I was tempted to call and give it a go, just for curiosity, would it probably hurt your chances if someone else called though I'd imagine?
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01-11-2012 , 08:05 PM
I was at that same tournament and got a good picture of him smiling. That is definitely Nick Rainey

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01-11-2012 , 08:25 PM
Lol wp.
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01-11-2012 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by WutRUTryin2Hit
I was tempted to call and give it a go, just for curiosity, would it probably hurt your chances if someone else called though I'd imagine?
I can't imagine how it could, but I guess the possibility does exist.

The guy from the poker room was somewhat suspicious of my intentions, but I don't think he was alarmed. He asked me why I needed it the entrant list and I told him it was because I'm a backer and needed verification of my guys being in the tournament for tax reasons. He seemed to stop questioning it when I mentioned the WSOP and WPT release the info.

Nobody at the corporate place had any idea who to send me to. I think the VM I left a msg on was Rob Mcintire, director of something or other. But he never called back.
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01-11-2012 , 11:39 PM
I think if a ton of people start phoning asking for info on 1 guy, people are likely to be like "wtf" and just clam up and stick 100% to the sage policy of not saying anything. It sounds like you got decently far though, maybe that Rob guy will call tomorrow.
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01-11-2012 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
FWIW. I think most of the people saying it doesn't look anything like him are people who know Nick in real life. It's a pretty ****ty picture, I'd imagine if you tried hard enough you could make it look like lots of 20 something male white guys.
It looks more like jungleman than nick.
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01-11-2012 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by WutRUTryin2Hit
I think if a ton of people start phoning asking for info on 1 guy, people are likely to be like "wtf" and just clam up and stick 100% to the sage policy of not saying anything. It sounds like you got decently far though, maybe that Rob guy will call tomorrow.
Yeah, I didn't even mention a name. I figured that would make me seem kind of shady. It's perfectly normal for people to release entrant lists, and I'm pretty sure they used to have some on their website(not for 2011).
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01-12-2012 , 12:05 AM
ZBTHorton- Why u mad bro?
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01-12-2012 , 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by WutRUTryin2Hit


I don't think those pics prove anything BUT anyone saying "lol they're not even close" is nuts, there are many pics of me that look more different from each other than those 4 pics do. I can see this being possible. That is a very distinctive nose.

Also the person in the 4th pic looks very different like the person in the 2nd and 3rd, or in the other pic linked a lot in this thread.

Not saying it's him, but the whole attitude of "lol that's insane" is quite wrong.


Just my opinion, but I don't think it looks like him at all. If he has gained 25lbs, maybe, but it just doesn't look like him to me. That guy seems to have a wider face and is more jowly.
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01-12-2012 , 02:56 AM
Long time lurker but just had to chime in on this thread. Im willing to bet any amount that the person in that picture IS NOT Nick Rainey. I will escrow with any reputable person here obviously. The guy in the picture is a local player from Edmonton that I have played with dozens of times. Hes a nice guy and solid player and I am sure he wouldnt appreciate having his picture associated with that POS MI_Turtle... Mods should seriously take that photo down.


EDIT: TO Clayraiken, I obviously cant receive pms but I like free money, so i am willing to organize a bet by any means possible.... Put your money where your mouth is

Last edited by Bonehack; 01-12-2012 at 02:58 AM. Reason: i want mannies
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01-12-2012 , 05:03 AM
this thread serves zero purpose anymore. lock it up.
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01-12-2012 , 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Bonehack
Long time lurker but just had to chime in on this thread. Im willing to bet any amount that the person in that picture IS NOT Nick Rainey. I will escrow with any reputable person here obviously. The guy in the picture is a local player from Edmonton that I have played with dozens of times. Hes a nice guy and solid player and I am sure he wouldnt appreciate having his picture associated with that POS MI_Turtle... Mods should seriously take that photo down.


EDIT: TO Clayraiken, I obviously cant receive pms but I like free money, so i am willing to organize a bet by any means possible.... Put your money where your mouth is
I will bet you eleventybillion dollars, no escrow needed chumpzilla.
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01-12-2012 , 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Bonehack
Long time lurker but just had to chime in on this thread. Im willing to bet any amount that the person in that picture IS NOT Nick Rainey. I will escrow with any reputable person here obviously. The guy in the picture is a local player from Edmonton that I have played with dozens of times. Hes a nice guy and solid player and I am sure he wouldnt appreciate having his picture associated with that POS MI_Turtle... Mods should seriously take that photo down.


EDIT: TO Clayraiken, I obviously cant receive pms but I like free money, so i am willing to organize a bet by any means possible.... Put your money where your mouth is
Do you know of any way to get that guys name, so we can find a few more pictures of him to completely put this stupid tangent to rest?

You don't have to post his name, and yes. If we can confirm it isn't Nick all of the posts will be deleted.
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01-12-2012 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
The point of this thread is two fold. To find factual information about debts Nick has to people in the community, and to make sure people know of them.

When you(a poster with a history of trolling and starting fights) come into this thread with a story from a friend(who you won't name, and hasn't come to the thread) with amazingly vague details about his play in a tournament where the entire story revolves around a 'smart looking asian guy' pointing out Nick, you'll have to excuse me for thinking you should probably have an open mind towards your information not being air tight. A responsible person would simply say something along the lines of "Well, my friend thought it was Nick. Maybe it wasn't. Was just trying to help" and move on. But a troll like you, just refuses to read any evidence and blabbers on about other possible scams because you realize nobody is buying into the first one you presented.

As for it being "apologistic excuse-filled drivel". You should probably read my posts, since this isn't what I've said at all. My defense of Nick in this instance was entirely 100% factual, and I've even stated multiple times that I'm not vouching for him as a person, just going off the evidence that can be gathered easily on the internet.



Right, but it's not your job to come into this thread and just list off potential scams that haven't occurred. That's the whole point. You accused him of overselling to a tournament, then told me he could easily scam me by withdrawing his balance and planning on redepositing it. You can't just make up more possible scenarios when the ones you already posted didn't work out for you, that's not the point of the thread. This thread is about things that have happened, that can be confirmed, so we can deal with them. If you fill the thread with worthless speculatory bull****, people stop reading it and stop caring pretty quickly.

I have no issue at all with you coming to the thread with your story. If you heard these things, it's perfectly fine to report them to the community. The problem I have is that you made no effort to authenticate them, which can also be fine because you may not have the time/know how to do so. But when someone else does the leg work, you should be open to a story of your less than perfect detail possibly being wrong, because if you don't, this thread can get out of hand very quickly.
lol i am not going to get in an argument with you about this, but i play poker for a living online (and have for many years) and i am much less of a troll, much more respectable/credible in real life than you think. i realize the fact that 98% of my posts are in nvg, and i haven't disclosed the name of my friend yet are issues to you, but neither are really relevant concerns at this point. my friend finished 2nd in that mtt and is a huge winner online, both of us have plenty of 2p2 contacts and neither of us are anonymous nor do we have any specific beef against nick. you want to make me look like the bad guy because i won't read more than 2 sentences of your desperate scammer horse defending bull**** while you talk to me like i'm some clown who could never in a million years be serious (and nick rainey could never in a million years be scamming you), and because i've provided some vague reference/story that hasn't been verified that you think is undermining the credibility of the what, 100 or so other people (?) that nick has scammed in his life...ok, that's fine, the last thing in this world that i care about is what ****ing nick rainey's backer thinks of me.

plenty of people are now coming in here saying that the pic does in fact look like him, and another player in the specific tournament had the same thoughts about this mystery man that my friend did, so hey, maybe you are as desperate and delusional as i think you are.

like i said, he didn't have to punt off the mtt to have an angle for it, use your heads or scroll back up to one of my posts that ZBT, the english professor who likes to talk about peoples' "logic fails", misread himself. oh no, but he never keeps 3k in his account SO IT'S TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE (no live mtts ever run sats duh). ****ing lol.

edit: why u so mad bro?

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01-12-2012 , 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
To the best of my knowledge, Nick doesn't have a smart phone. If he does, he's gotten it extremely recently.

Even if the above were true, the person in the picture who is supposedly Nick, played day 2 and didn't punt the tournament according to someone who played with him all day. So this entire discussion is somewhat moot.
so what you really meant to say is that you actually have no ****ing idea, right? perhaps you have less control over this situation than you think you do, and subconsciously realizing that is causing you to lash out. just an idea.
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01-12-2012 , 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ZBTHorton
Do you know of any way to get that guys name, so we can find a few more pictures of him to completely put this stupid tangent to rest?

You don't have to post his name, and yes. If we can confirm it isn't Nick all of the posts will be deleted.
cross your fingers for the guy with 1 post, maybe he's got a birth certificate and passport for you
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01-12-2012 , 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by shug_bomb
so what you really meant to say is that you actually have no ****ing idea, right? perhaps you have less control over this situation than you think you do, and subconsciously realizing that is causing you to lash out. just an idea.
No, what I meant was that I knew Nick didn't have a phone at all as of a few months ago. I was under the impression that he bought a cheap pre paid phone in order to validate his Stars account, but didn't want to be totally 100% definitive on a topic that I'm not 100% totally sure about. Since I made that post, I have verified he doesn't have a smart phone via Nick and someone who knows Nick in Canada.

Unlike you, I'm very careful about things I say. If I'm not sure about something, I make sure people know that I'm not sure of it. I don't want to mislead anyone, nor do I want to embarrass myself like you have in this thread.

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01-12-2012 , 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by shug_bomb
cross your fingers for the guy with 1 post, maybe he's got a birth certificate and passport for you
Are you going to ignore the other poster who says he played with the guy in your picture all of Day 2 and he definitely wasn't punting the tournament? I know you can't be bothered to read complicated things like evidence and stuff, but at a certain point you must realize how silly you look.
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01-12-2012 , 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by shug_bomb

plenty of people are now coming in here saying that the pic does in fact look like him, and another player in the specific tournament had the same thoughts about this mystery man that my friend did, so hey, maybe you are as desperate and delusional as i think you are.
You can't use the poster who thought the player in the picture was Nick, and still hang onto your story. The whole purpose of your original post was that he was playing ridiculously and obviously oversold himself. If the guy in the picture is Nick, he ****ing made Day 2 and played totally normal. So who gives a **** if it's Nick or not?

If Nick wasn't playing recklessly and your anonymous friend didn't think he oversold himself, your story is essentially that your anonymous friend had a smart looking asian kid point out Nick Rainey in a tournament. Cool story bro.

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like i said, he didn't have to punt off the mtt to have an angle for it, use your heads or scroll back up to one of my posts that ZBT, the english professor who likes to talk about peoples' "logic fails", misread himself. oh no, but he never keeps 3k in his account SO IT'S TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE (no live mtts ever run sats duh). ****ing lol.
I've already told you I have access to his withdrawal and transfer histories. I'm sorry that you refuse to read stuff like that, but it's really not that complicated. I never meant to imply that there wasn't anyway in the world for Nick to play the tournament. I was simply stating that the scenario you outlined isn't possible.

He could have borrowed the money, or taken out a loan at the bank, or robbed someone, or who knows what else. There are millions of really unlikely scenarios we could debate ad nauseum, but that would ruin this thread even more than it already has been.

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01-12-2012 , 11:00 AM
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lol i am not going to get in an argument with you about this, but i play poker for a living online (and have for many years) and i am much less of a troll, much more respectable/credible in real life than you think. i realize the fact that 98% of my posts are in nvg, and i haven't disclosed the name of my friend yet are issues to you, but neither are really relevant concerns at this point. my friend finished 2nd in that mtt and is a huge winner online, both of us have plenty of 2p2 contacts and neither of us are anonymous nor do we have any specific beef against nick. you want to make me look like the bad guy because i won't read more than 2 sentences of your desperate scammer horse defending bull**** while you talk to me like i'm some clown who could never in a million years be serious (and nick rainey could never in a million years be scamming you), and because i've provided some vague reference/story that hasn't been verified that you think is undermining the credibility of the what, 100 or so other people (?) that nick has scammed in his life...ok, that's fine, the last thing in this world that i care about is what ****ing nick rainey's backer thinks of me.

plenty of people are now coming in here saying that the pic does in fact look like him, and another player in the specific tournament had the same thoughts about this mystery man that my friend did, so hey, maybe you are as desperate and delusional as i think you are.

like i said, he didn't have to punt off the mtt to have an angle for it, use your heads or scroll back up to one of my posts that ZBT, the english professor who likes to talk about peoples' "logic fails", misread himself. oh no, but he never keeps 3k in his account SO IT'S TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE (no live mtts ever run sats duh). ****ing lol.

edit: why u so mad bro?
Wow, you make yourself look more ******ed with every post.
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01-12-2012 , 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by shug_bomb
cross your fingers for the guy with 1 post, maybe he's got a birth certificate and passport for you
Lol man, I'm at the casino where we usually play together. Unless he's out of town I'm sure i could get a passport and birth certificate some time next week
during the tournament series. Do you want to bet on it? I seriously don't care about whatever other argument you're in but that picture is simply NOT who you think it is. Also, this isnt a situation where I am possibly as mistaken as you are. I was at riverrock that day. I must say,I have shown this thread to a bunch of people here and everyone has had a good laugh.

And to ZBHORTON, I only know him by his first name, as do a bunch of other players, but I'm very confident I could get his full name soon enough.
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01-12-2012 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by shug_bomb
cross your fingers for the guy with 1 post, maybe he's got a birth certificate and passport for you
You should probably quit while you're ahe... oh wait... never mind - carry on.
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01-12-2012 , 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by shug_bomb
my friend finished 2nd in that mtt and is a huge winner online, both of us have plenty of 2p2 contacts and neither of us are anonymous nor do we have any specific beef against nick.
The thing is, it doesn't really matter how well known or respected you are, anyone can make a mistake but you're so MAD you're not willing to accept there's a 1% chance your friend is incorrect.

If you and your friend are 100% sure about this put some money up.
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01-12-2012 , 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by shug_bomb
lol i am not going to get in an argument with you about this, but i play poker for a living online (and have for many years) and i am much less of a troll, much more respectable/credible in real life than you think. i realize the fact that 98% of my posts are in nvg, and i haven't disclosed the name of my friend yet are issues to you, but neither are really relevant concerns at this point. my friend finished 2nd in that mtt and is a huge winner online, both of us have plenty of 2p2 contacts and neither of us are anonymous nor do we have any specific beef against nick. you want to make me look like the bad guy because i won't read more than 2 sentences of your desperate scammer horse defending bull**** while you talk to me like i'm some clown who could never in a million years be serious (and nick rainey could never in a million years be scamming you), and because i've provided some vague reference/story that hasn't been verified that you think is undermining the credibility of the what, 100 or so other people (?) that nick has scammed in his life...ok, that's fine, the last thing in this world that i care about is what ****ing nick rainey's backer thinks of me.

plenty of people are now coming in here saying that the pic does in fact look like him, and another player in the specific tournament had the same thoughts about this mystery man that my friend did, so hey, maybe you are as desperate and delusional as i think you are.

like i said, he didn't have to punt off the mtt to have an angle for it, use your heads or scroll back up to one of my posts that ZBT, the english professor who likes to talk about peoples' "logic fails", misread himself. oh no, but he never keeps 3k in his account SO IT'S TOTALLY IMPOSSIBLE (no live mtts ever run sats duh). ****ing lol.

edit: why u so mad bro?
If your friend is the guy that came 2nd... then he's the guy I showed the website too.

wait... am I the smart looking asian kid lol?
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01-12-2012 , 05:08 PM
I mean shug thinks he's right, other people think hes wrong, unless someone puts some evidence up who gives a ****. It's all speculative anyways.
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