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Originally Posted by vers
Stars: power_up45
Name: Rajesh Rughwani
Email: powerup45@gmail.com
Country: UK
Played for us with no issues from Sept 2012 to Feb 2013. Sent many transfers and profit cuts. In the middle of February, he played cash on our roll (which was not allowed) and he lost about $2400. For the next 2 months, he sent small payments when he could. His last contact with us was late April. He still owes up $1590. Did not post before because he was making regular payments.
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10...l#post38845052
Guess where the regular payments were coming from? I'm guessing the payments stopping coincided with the next stake ending...
If you had posted in a timely manner, it would have saved another staker money.
I realise that just about every staker is going to do what they deem to be in their best interest of getting paid, so this is a comment for the community rather than the individual poster. Once a player has shown they are not trustworthy, it is in everyone's interest to get the info out there quickly.
Backers often acquiesce to horses wanting 2 months to pay and "if you post about me, gg getting paid." The reality over a pretty big sample size is that you are more likely to get paid by posting than by not posting. The horse is buying time ~ time for them to be able to luckbox their way out of it, time to screw another backer before being outed ~ whatever.
Horses that are genuinely remorseful that they made an out of character lapse in judgment will repay you when they can. They will understand your need to post in the community, they will repay you when they can regardless, and appreciate you updating the thread when they have made good. They won't try and hold you to ransom over it and make out that it is all your fault that they did it...
Horses that are not genuinely remorseful are not going to pay you back - this thread is littered with examples of weak-sauce replies from horses citing staker action as the reason they are no longer paying.
In fact, several unremorseful players will come back to you and pay you off to make good on the thread and allow subsequent backing. That is a good example of the thread making a difference, recovering more cents on the dollar per scam in fact than agreeing to ludicrous repayment terms that often don't materialise anyway.
2. Stakers that keep quiet in the futile hope that it is in their best interest must also realise that if everyone else does the same, they are highly likely to be just about to stake someone that another staker knows is a scammer, but is also keeping quiet about in the hope they get paid too. How much better the staking community would all be if that dog-eat-dog element didn't exist.
Happy for others to improve this based on their experience, but I think the process should be something like this.
1. You discover they busted the roll in unauthorised games/cashed out etc.
2. You confront them and establish a repayment agreement.
3. You point out that despite the repayment agreement, it is going up on NF. (as ^^, good people understand, bad people aren't repaying you anyway if they can possibly avoid it)
4. Good people repay. Bad people don't. Added bonus that some bad people will repay, not out of remorse, but just to satisfy the next backer/employer, who is free to stake, but has the knowledge of this and caveat emptor and all that.