Re: Igors Bondarevs
I co-own a small stable and used to be his coach. He doesn't strike me as the scammer type, although he has a personality that perhaps isn't the most optimal to be staked by anyone. We stopped the deal with him over the fact that he would play well at times but had tilt issues. Never scammed us in any way, even when his makeup was reasonably higher than $500.
Igors just messaged me today about this. His version of the facts are:
* On January 28th his backer refused to reload him;
* From this point on, the deal was over;
* He started playing for another backer and made a reasonable amount;
* His old backer talks to him and says he still owes the $500 and is scamming him.
Now going over it point by point:
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In November he blocked me on Skype and facebook. He didn't return my emails or messages on twoplustwo. A month later he contacts me to tell me his ex gf has hacked ALL his accounts.
So you spent a month waiting for Igors to unblock you on skype and didn't report it on 2+2...
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He is rebuilding his roll and would get me my money soon. He later contacts me to say he needs more money to move up stakes to the $3 rebuys. He was complaining that he was having a hard time making ends meet. I tell him that i wont give it to him, but i will allow him to take my percentage, which he was supposed to give me every two weeks, to help build his roll for a quicker transition, and then pay what is owed later (adding to his debt).
And you kept backing him after he unblocked you. So what I can get from that is that not only did you take him back to your team, you kinda lost the right to complain about him for that specifically later on since not only did you never reported him for obviously scamming you, you took him back whenever he asked you to. Even if your story is true (I don't know why you would make that up), it adds to nothing on your cause IMO.
Now here is where it gets a little weird and doesn't add up to Igors scamming you:
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He agrees, and then later contacts me two weeks later to say that he lost his bankroll weeks ago and that he is with another stakor on another poker site.
Igors sent me log chat of this, and maybe you should be countering his proof but it looks a lot like you have twisted the truth to make it feel like you're in the right when in all reality you're not:
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[1/28/2013 12:37:31 AM] IgorCalis: cant grind no more
[1/28/2013 12:37:35 AM] IgorCalis: i have 9 $
[1/28/2013 12:38:06 AM] iampi0: thought u were crushing it?
[1/28/2013 12:38:53 AM] IgorCalis: well its 18 %
[1/28/2013 12:39:21 AM] iampi0: still playing 2's?
[1/28/2013 12:39:47 AM] IgorCalis: yes
[1/28/2013 12:40:00 AM] IgorCalis: i dont think i can afford playing these
[1/28/2013 12:40:09 AM] IgorCalis: epensive
[1/28/2013 12:40:12 AM] IgorCalis: expensive
[1/28/2013 12:40:34 AM] IgorCalis:Need reload
[1/28/2013 12:40:46 AM] IgorCalis: (
[1/28/2013 12:40:46 AM] IgorCalis: ...
[1/28/2013 12:40:57 AM] iampi0: so you are just running bad at 2's now?
[1/28/2013 12:41:01 AM] IgorCalis: yes
[1/28/2013 12:41:45 AM] iampi0: (worry)
[1/28/2013 12:44:28 AM] iampi0: whats ur plan then?
[1/28/2013 12:44:55 AM] IgorCalis: i have no plan
[1/28/2013 12:45:02 AM] IgorCalis: icant afford nothing
[1/28/2013 12:50:25 AM] iampi0: that is rough
[1/28/2013 10:10:36 PM] iampi0: i cant give you money anymore
That ends the deal. Right there. Deal is over. Unless Igors made that whole convo up.
Now you also said he wasn't down on sharkscope. Here are his results from the 25th to the 27th of january:
Gamma777195
PokerStars
01/25/2013-01/27/2013
195
-$1.51
$2.27
-60.8%
-$295
It is reasonable that he would be actually down $300 when he was down $300 on sharkscope. Unless you have elements to prove he played games he shouldn't during this particular period and therefore broke the deal on his end, you don't have the right to the $300 you say he owes you. This is the convo you had earlier today:
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[8:33:36 AM] Igors: [10:29:17 AM | Edited 10:29:33 AM] Igors: I lost my/your bankrol weeks ago and started to play under other staker
[10:29:23 AM] Igors: and i am on ypswing now
[10:29:48 AM] Igors: since u couldnt give me reload
[10:31:49 AM] iampi0: Sure, just send me the $500 that you owe me
[10:32:25 AM] Igors: u didnt give me reload to continue
[10:32:38 AM] Igors: we had to until march
[10:32:41 AM] Igors: a deal
[10:32:48 AM | Edited 10:32:56 AM] Igors: in the case i loose
[10:33:11 AM] iampi0: as far as i am concerned you owe me at least $500
[10:33:39 AM] Igors: i played
[10:33:41 AM] Igors: i lost
[10:33:52 AM | Edited 10:34:02 AM] Igors: u culdt afford to continue to stake me
[10:33:59 AM] iampi0: if you want to do this to someone who called you a friend, then fine
[10:34:03 AM] iampi0: you can cheat me
[10:34:11 AM] Igors: this is not cheating
[10:34:19 AM] Igors: the things like these not working at the stakes
[10:34:29 AM] iampi0: i will post this on 2+2
[10:34:34 AM] iampi0: its up to you
[10:34:52 AM] iampi0: you have really disapointed me
[10:35:03 AM] Igors: ridicilous
[10:35:24 AM] Igors: why u didnt gave me a relaod?
[10:35:47 AM] Igors: why...
[10:36:04 AM] iampi0: i am not here to argue with you.
[10:36:09 AM] iampi0: i don't want to
[10:36:29 AM] iampi0: i believe 100% you are trying to cheat me now
[10:36:34 AM] iampi0: you can either send me money or not
[10:36:40 AM] Igors: u want me to give 500 $
[10:36:43 AM] Igors: you
[10:36:47 AM] iampi0: yes
[10:37:00 AM] Igors: all stakers are reloading if players loosing
[10:37:05 AM] Igors: players are not owing money
[10:37:20 AM] Igors: in the case players lost initial bankroll
[10:37:26 AM] Igors: they get reload
[10:37:39 AM] Igors: and have makeup
[10:37:42 AM] iampi0: you can post it on 2+2
[10:37:51 AM] iampi0: after i send your documents and chat log
[10:38:10 AM | Edited 10:38:19 AM] Igors: u really dont know how things are working
[10:38:12 AM] iampi0: i can't believe you are doing this to me
[10:38:21 AM] iampi0: i stood by you for months
[10:38:33 AM] Igors: i said i had downswing
[10:38:39 AM] Igors: u ignored me
It fits more with his side of the argument then with your side of the argument. Although it's true that Igors is somewhat of a beggar, has tilt issues and is very very hard to deal with (sorry bro), he does have the right to search for another backer once his backer refuses to reload him. That's a horse's right, if anything. I had to write off a similar amount when we cut him from our stable. That's just standard business and doesn't deserve to be on neg. feedback. Call it backer's variance.