Same guy applied for stake but as soon as he started telling me that my initial bankroll for his stake is to small i stoped nagotiations and havent heard from him. Guess i was lucky this time.

I believed this post for 1, maybe 2 seconds.
It was made made 22 minutes after the first report and came from Matthew Tsang's (jessica94794) reference, associate and likely friend David Yang (LuckandGuts)

get after Stars - they can't keep avoiding scamming issues forever

this one deserves action


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edit(RW) - my reaction appears to be incorrect

Seems you are wrong in this one.

I sent him 1500 on Sunday. I initially said I wanted to start him lower because he hadn;t grinded for a while. He was a bit forceful about the money but that seemed to be his demeanor before so it didn't alert me. Since he hadn't rolled me before for $1500 when he had the chance back in Nov/Dec, I didn't think twice about sending to him again.

Today luckandguts told me on skype at about 11am, saying don't send money to jessica, because he just rolled me. I told him I was going to post on 2p2 and he should do the same. When he gave me Jessica's reference, I talked to him on skype call for minutes and another 20 today.

There is no chance he's in on this, it would have been super easy to tell if he was lying to me and also why bother calling me in the first place.

I also emailed stars and they said they were passing it along to higher up in security.

Agreed that there's basically 0% chance Luckandguts is on this. I had a 15 minute skype call today with him on Skype.

I wish I was as smart as M1ghtyDucks. We told him we were going to start him out with 1k and he insisted on 2k. Ugh.

And the horse of mine that funded his account has sent Stars security an email. I encourage others to all do the same referencing these 2+2 posts.

-Shane

Why sites don't help with rolling when in a way stakers and backer make them more business? Bad business decision IMO.

Probably somewhat because it can be "he said, she said" and it is a lot easier for stars to not get involved and put the responsibility on the sender.

Well lets say if u have prove or a staking agreement then its a lot easier. They can even collect a fee. That will get them working on it. Rake 5% of the transfer lol

Stars won't do anything, got a generic response back.

Agreed that there's basically 0% chance Luckandguts is on this.

every night before i go to sleep instead of dreaming about heroing check raising russians ive been dreaming about having m1ghtducks life.

2p2 should track this IP, and see if it came from the same IP as LuckandGuts and Jessica94794. He came to me for staking as well, and LuckandGuts did a number to try and sell him to me. He spent an hour just talking about how smart the kid was and how I should give him at least 500buyins for 180mans or else I'd lose him to another stable. If everyone just takes a look at LuckandGuts and Jessica94794's game selection you'll find something rather odd. Also they have never played a game at the same time. pkratitsbest who sells packages on 2p2 weekly talked to me about him applying for his stable as well, and for some reason they did manage to get their 1.5k back. I guess his plan all along was to gain some trust, and go out with a bang rolling on as many backers as possible all at once.

This is what I messaged pkratitsbest with on skype
luckandguts stopped grinding 2012 April11, jessica9469 starts his first game on ps on 2012 April 15. Jessicastops grinding on June.11,2012. Luckandguts starts playing again on June13 2012 and stops Nov22 2012, Jessicaplays like 5 games on Nov 23,2012 and stops. Luckandguts starts playing again until Dec.16,2012. Jessica plays again starting Dec.19,2012 and stops at Dec.27,2012. Luckandguts starts playing again on Jan.3,2013 but jessica hasnt played since 27th

I'm not trying to drag LuckandGuts's name through the mud, but the evidence speaks for itself. Also on Skype they would never agree to do a 3 way conference call, and I never got to hear Matthew's voice only LuckandGuts'. They have the same resident location on Skype, and the same time zone, but apparently LuckandGuts is supposed to be residing in Australia not Canada. I'm very sorry that I didn't post this on 2p2 earlier, and hope this matter can be resolved asap. Good luck

Fwiw the reason for him shipping back 2k is that he got very sick, in da hospital blah blah blah. Same as another poster above.

yah I got the same response for 1500. Just unsure why he decided to delay rolling everyone instead of back in November

possible that he found it easier than expected to get people to send him larger amounts so he decided to plan it out and scam as many people as possible at once. hopefully you guys can get some retribution against the scumbag.

DNS / rolled stake at ptp for $1k:
http://forum.parttimepoker.com/appea...ck-thread.html

Min4BetU (2p2), philivey123422 (ptp)

SNs - philivey6922 (stars), MustBeNiceIMO (ftp), dueforit (party, juicy), PeterPNorth (lock), booboosgram (bcp)


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Min4BetU is now banned on 2+2
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I had the same FWIW. Jessica94794 (Matther Tsang) contacted me (with references from LuckandGuts) and asked for a $5k roll to start off. I didn't like the sound of it too much so I left it at that.

LuckandGuts did contact me the other day to warn me that Jessica94794 was scamming. I dont know if these allegations are true but it would be sick if they were.

Name: Chad Thompson
Country: Peterborough, ON, Canada
Stars: ree22
Skype: chadct1

Chad was in the same stable as me when I started out playing. My friend wanted to start a stable and he got in touch saying that he was at a loose end and could play some 180 mans. We staked him successfully for quite a few months, even lent him money out of stable funds which he paid back when he made some $.

Just after xmas he claimed a couple of top ups (which I should of checked but given the history trusted the guy) for around $1k total. He has since disappeared from Skype, blocked his SS and OPR stats and wont respond to my emails. He is a liar and a scammer and should not be staked or trusted ever again.

He owes me around $500 total.

^^^$500 total


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ree22 (Ontario, Canada) was banned on 2+2 a year ago because of his 2010 ptp stakeroll
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...8&postcount=43
ree22 - Party and FTP as well

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Scammed by masterm1nd2 on ps, he won a mtt under my dime and only shipped about 20% of the win.

Alex cimpan from Romania

Kreatorrrr on 2+2

Scammed by argentina82 on ps, he just straight up stole the stake. please avoid doing business with either

Theodoros Spyropoulos from greece

argentina82 on 2+2

Luckandguts was behind the jessica94794 scam and was multiaccounting. He has since paid back the money.

Alex Cimpan sent me a PM applying for a stake. I didn't even respond. He said this in the PM:

"My reference is "figgyan" on Stars who is also a staked player at the same structure i want to play and is doing very well."

So I guess watch out for him too maybe.

Scammed by masterm1nd2 lol ? He gave to me a bankroll of 100$ to play "whatever i want" he said and then i've won the big 4.40$. We made an agreement at the beginng that we will do 50% - 50% $ from the prize and he will provide me a bankroll for my games. His share was 1107$ and i sent him 807$ and i kept my bankroll of 400$ form my games. After a couple of hours he said to me, to transfer the remaining amount because the investitors didn't agree with the bankroll i wanted (what investitors ? and we had an agreement). I didn't agree with that and i think also the amount of 807$ is big for him. I want to know why the other "coaches/moderators/users" are talking if they don't know the story ? I don't think it's fair for a high reputation forum like 2+2. And he lies about the 20% cause i think 807$ of 1107$ it's not 20%. Makes me sick this kind of people! Regards.

(This is the transfer confirmation mail from Pokerstars)Bună masterm1nd2,

Am transferat suma 807,00 USD din contul tău la 'trelskig' conform cererii tale.


Mult noroc amândurora.

Cu stimă,

Casieria PokerStars


Puteti gasi mai multe informatii despre 'Securitatea' website-ului si a jocurilor noastre de poker online la urmatorul link:

http://www.pokerstars.com/ro/poker/r.../security-faq/





Scammed by masterm1nd2 on ps, he won a mtt under my dime and only shipped about 20% of the win.

Alex cimpan from Romania

Kreatorrrr on 2+2

Scammed by argentina82 on ps, he just straight up stole the stake. please avoid doing business with either

Theodoros Spyropoulos from greece

argentina82 on 2+2[/QUOTE]

You think ? U don't wanna find out the hole story behind his post ? I don't see the meaning of the post.