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12-17-2009 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by pontylad
Bren, would you just like your original money back and be done with this? (not saying it's ideal but) if so why doesn't caliburn send you back what was owed to you when you requested the stake to end, and just call it quits there and say f it to whatever extra he has made.

Like i said, it's not ideal, but should reduce the worry about whether cali pays you back or not at the end of the stake and hopefully cali should see that this way he also ends up about $1500, which should cover his purchases and he can just carry on playing on his own roll (like i said about $1500) and won't need to be splitting profits (since he doesn't care about his rep this should make sense to him as well). ?! :S


so in essence just getting your money back for peace of mind.
no. this is quite a stupid resolution.
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12-17-2009 , 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Zima421
no. this is quite a stupid resolution.
tell us what you really think!

Cali must be alot more busto than he is making out or has spent like $5k on presents and hopes that hes going to make enough over next week to cover it or his line makes no sense.
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12-17-2009 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Zima421
no. this is quite a stupid resolution.
hmm was going to post some equally flippant reply, but instead, pm sent zima.

ps and i realise i may not have articulated my thoughts as well as i would have liked in my post above.
pps, in fact it reads back a lot worse now.

Last edited by pontylad; 12-17-2009 at 04:00 PM.
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12-17-2009 , 05:51 PM
Ponty I'm not sure how to respond to that.

I think I get where you are coming from, but your resolution is kind of like "It's ok you free rolled me like a b**** " just send me a little bit of cash".

In the end any proposal put to him is going to fail. It's pretty obvious that he's just going to do what he feels like and find a reason for it afterwards.

Once the money moved to the second account, (and I'm 95% sure it has) I became pretty confident that we got rolled.

I wouldn't put to much stock in anything he's said ITT, through blocking scope and changing accounts he's able to say the BR is whatever he wants with no way to confirm.

Last edited by Bren; 12-17-2009 at 05:52 PM. Reason: bleh poasted b4 coffee
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12-17-2009 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bren
Ponty I'm not sure how to respond to that.

I think I get where you are coming from, but your resolution is kind of like "It's ok you free rolled me like a b**** " just send me a little bit of cash".


In the end any proposal put to him is going to fail. It's pretty obvious that he's just going to do what he feels like and find a reason for it afterwards.

Once the money moved to the second account, (and I'm 95% sure it has) I became pretty confident that we got rolled.

I wouldn't put to much stock in anything he's said ITT, through blocking scope and changing accounts he's able to say the BR is whatever he wants with no way to confirm.
bingo.

gettin free rolled is stupid and to suggest that is how you should solve this situation is beyond ******ed ponty.


i understand you are trying to just get some money back for him, but yeah.
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12-17-2009 , 06:03 PM
Alterran played a $109fo last night and got 5th for $1800ish.
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12-17-2009 , 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CBorders
Alterran played a $109fo last night and got 5th for $1800ish.
Thanks CBorders



edit: Kinda makes my previous point more obvious.
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12-17-2009 , 06:20 PM
Sorry bren and zima, I hope you realise that is 100% not the message I want to advocate and i don't think my post really articulated this well. As i pm'd zima, the chance of you receiving any of the money back from this guy appears to be practically zero, I was just trying to open doors for the possibility of at least receiving some of your money back (and then whence that occurred, going all out after the rest with what ever means possible).

Ape, if you want to remove my original post since the thread is pretty cluttered then that is fine. But just so bren and zima understand i'm 100% against anybody like this, no questions.
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12-17-2009 , 06:29 PM
Yeah I can see that np
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12-17-2009 , 06:33 PM
np, gl hope you're able to recover it if possible.

Last edited by pontylad; 12-17-2009 at 06:51 PM.
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12-17-2009 , 06:42 PM
i understand your side ponty.


i just dont negociate with terrorists.
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12-18-2009 , 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CBorders
Alterran played a $109fo last night and got 5th for $1800ish.
And in the last 7 days Alterran has lost $2479.80 in sngs, including playing 5 $235 6-max turbos and 2 $119 6-turbos. That was all on the 11th of Dec.

Sending Bren a PM now.
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12-18-2009 , 03:23 AM
<-------- Isn't surprised.

Thanks for PM'ing me.
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12-18-2009 , 04:37 AM
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And in the last 7 days Alterran has lost $2479.80 in sngs, including playing 5 $235 6-max turbos and 2 $119 6-turbos. That was all on the 11th of Dec.

Sending Bren a PM now.
what a ****ing scumbag
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12-18-2009 , 07:17 AM
man this thread got good
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12-18-2009 , 08:27 AM
So will there be a Martin Carlson is a scammer thread or something? Wondering how this is going to be resolved
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12-18-2009 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by marek_heinz
So will there be a Martin Carlson is a scammer thread or something? Wondering how this is going to be resolved
maybe a good old ass whoopin
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12-19-2009 , 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Caliburn
LOL?@He wants to break the deal, i dont.
LOL?@Im going to finish the deal and split the money like we agreed on.
Whatever you are blaming me for, its not theft.

You tell me there is no middle ground, that my only options are to take the money and keep them or to send them back to him..YUP, well here is the middle ground.

I dont consider myself doing a bad thing if im finishing the agreement we had and ship him over 1k profits.
Im not losing any sleep over the fact im making someone hundreds of dollars.

gtpitch, if you dont know what that means you should read my previous posts when i explained it.
Buddy, enough with the kiddie games, ship the man his money back ASAP, and go play kiddie games elsewhere.
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12-19-2009 , 12:41 AM
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Why would the backer have a right to end a deal whenever he wants? A deal is a deal. Ur telling me backers are in the right to change a deal whenever they want? how ******ed O_o. If that is true then its just wrong, a deal should not be changed by just one of the people involved.

Im a SCUMbag cuz i dont want to break deals? whatever. And it matters a lot if i have run the stake up or down since then, to play and keep the profit would be to freeroll him, to scam him. You are just ******ed.
YES, because he's the bank, and you're his horse. He OWNS you until you pay him back, get it now? k good

Lulz, you're TOO much, this MUST be a level.
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12-19-2009 , 05:21 AM
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YES, because he's the bank, and you're his horse. He OWNS you until you pay him back, get it now? k good

Lulz, you're TOO much, this MUST be a level.
You're trying to help, and I appreciate it but I think this is a bit much.

I don't own the guy and wouldn't put it that way.

But yeah it's crazy. 100% not a level, this has been his position all along.
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12-19-2009 , 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Bren
You're trying to help, and I appreciate it but I think this is a bit much.

I don't own the guy and wouldn't put it that way.

But yeah it's crazy. 100% not a level, this has been his position all along.
You're right, I forgot to use quotation marks for "OWNS" -- my bad.

What I meant was, you are his employer, and he's your employee, so he MUST obey by your rules, or else whatever agreement you had with the horse is void..PERIOD.

I've been scammed as well several times, and it's not the loss of money that bothers me, it's a basic principle these kids don't understand..you owe -- you pay..PERIOD.

I hope you recover what you're entitled to.

Take care.
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12-19-2009 , 08:03 PM
Thanks, u2
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12-22-2009 , 12:22 PM
I was victim of a scam.
The name of the scammer on 2+2 is ChristerB.
We agreed on a deal on MSN ( his address is christerbergstrom85@hotmail.com ) after some posts on 2+2's marketplace.
We were supposed to trade 495$ from fulltilt to pokerstars.
I sent him the first half, but then he said to me that he made the transfer but that it was pending (it was like 6 hours ago).
He disconnected from MSN, and even after I sent him a few messages on tables he was playing on (his screenname on FTP is Hajj1 ), he ignored me...
Pretty lame!
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12-29-2009 , 12:26 AM
1) 2+2 screen name. Pro147

2) Poker site name(s). Please. Pro147

3) AOL IM, emails, city, etc. Phone numbers, street addresses, and similar info is not permitted. Contact a mod about special circumstances. pro147@hotmail.co.uk MSN name and email

4) A reasonably brief summary of the problem. No walls of text please, link to the thread if you like. Sent him money to stake he seemed to be on board a while then started playing PLO and blew the roll. He disappeared and doesn't reply to emails.


SCAMMER #2

1) Personal friend does not have a 2+2 name Name is Matthew Bellamy

2) Poker name Matgafan620 on PS

3) Don't know email

4) Was already in makeup and when I had picked him back up he started playing 50$ DONs under the stake that he was suppose to stick with 12s and below. Again dodges calls text messages and all and has disappeared. Great friend.

Last edited by gtpitch; 12-29-2009 at 12:45 AM. Reason: Sent pm to Pro147 with read receipt
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12-29-2009 , 12:36 AM
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1) 2+2 screen name. Pro147

2) Poker site name(s). Please. Pro147

3) AOL IM, emails, city, etc. Phone numbers, street addresses, and similar info is not permitted. Contact a mod about special circumstances. pro147@hotmail.co.uk MSN name and email

4) A reasonably brief summary of the problem. No walls of text please, link to the thread if you like. Sent him money to stake he seemed to be on board a while then started playing PLO and blew the roll. He disappeared and doesn't reply to emails.


SCAMMER #2

1) Personal friend does not have a 2+2 name Name is Matthew Bellamy

2) Poker name Matgafan620 on PS

3) Don't know email

4) Was already in makeup and when I had picked him back up he started playing 50$ DONs under the stake that he was suppose to stick with 12s and below. Again dodges calls text messages and all and has disappeared. Great friend.
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Originally Posted by pro147
1 - pro147
2 - rc800
3 - play mainly european sites. ipoker - gingertony, befair - 25chip
4 - across both stars and tilt i reckon 10each a night 5 nights a week so 100 mtts a week
5 - looking to be staked cos my girlfriend is pregant so most of my money will need to be spend elsewhere.
6 - make both of us a ton of money, obv start in low stakes mtts and work my way up and build my rep
7 - rivermanl, moorman1 and ImaLuckSac are all good friends of mine
8 - my live poker record is pretty good too so heres the link - http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=45904

thanks alot

Tony

Pro147.

http://forum.parttimepoker.com/repor...ification.html

Scammer, roller, etc...

Also, he has a different FTP name listed there.


.......

I'll take a look though
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