if you think that, you have no idea. Simple like that.

what companies ask for collateral?

You say these days in staking it is common for the staker to ask for collateral so to hand over the risk to the horse?

What do you need staking for if you are still the one taking on all the risk and what exactly does the staker get a share for?

if you want i answer you in private. Makes no sense to be spamming this thread.

lol

I have some idea 👍

It's a scummy practice that only preys on the vulnerable.

- Name: Miguel Sousa

- Country: Portugal
- email: pmfs1994@gmail.com
- phone: 928128515 Whatsapp
- discord: miisousa

- nicks:
- - Ps FRES: Kid$hark1
- - 888.pt: KidShark1
- - WPN: ImKidShark


Portuguese player, came in, took the entire bankroll, and started playing spin and off the grid. Says he will return all the money when he can, but so far it's just stalling. Outstanding balance: $290.00

*att: 23/10/2024 - debt paid off, but we maintain the team's shutdown

- Name: Frederico Cordeiro

- Country: Portugal
- email: frederico.cordeiro@gmail.com
- discord: spaceman1653

- nicks:
- - Ps FRES: Unlucky Czar
- - 888.pt: LeSpaceman
- - GG: LeSpaceman


Portuguese player, downgraded level due to having a high MU, and continued to experience a rising MU. As a result, the audit showed that he "stole" $800. The remaining debt balance is MU. Outstanding Balance: $2442.89

- Name: Tiago Branco

- Country: Portugal
- emails: tiagoraul77@gmail.com / tiago_branco7@outlook.pt
- phone: 965530921
- discord: achas9745

- nicks:
- - pasrah
- - unclejames1955

A payment agreement was made for the exit in August, but so far the two months that were supposed to be paid have failed. Outstanding Balance: $3264.96

Name: Luis Romero / Steven Marrero / Luis Arturo Romero Vallenilla
Ipoker: yireh sala champion
GGPoker: Luispoker
WPN: Zeuspoker10
Address: La Guaira / Venezuela
Email: ares.zeus2510@gmail.com,lr605355@gmail.com, jijantes1025@gmail.com
Discord:zeuspoker / zeuspeaker



We started working with Luis Romero on September 25, 2024.

A few days after starting, we noticed that Luis Romero was not following the stop-loss rules..

After that, he disappeared completely for a few weeks and emptied the balance in his account. Weeks later, after several attempts to contact him, he replied saying that his computer had burned out and that the machine was being repaired.

A few days after this we received a new application from a different name, different email, different nickname but with the same hands as Luis Romero had submitted with his application.

It became clear that Luis Romero is likely a repetitive scammer who tries to steal the initial bankrolls sent - likely transferring funds via chip dumping.

Luis Romero owes us $500

- Name: Victor Garrote Coelho

- Country: Brazil
- emails: victorgarrote082@gmail.com
- phone: +5531991046203
- discord: victor_garrote

- nicks:
hebinhuu (888)
hebinhuu (GG)
hebinhuu (iPoker)
hebinhuu (WPN)
hebinhu (ps.com)

Brazilian player, soon after joining the team he played several off-stakes tournaments and did not respect the rules. When questioned about these tournaments he disappeared with his bankroll. Outstanding balance: $245.00

- Name: Hector Soria

- Country: Argentine
- emails: Thekingdon100@gmail.com
- phone: +543564385314
- discord: excelsior14

- nicks:
- - ALFA-OMEGA - Winamax
- - Hyperionn14 - 888.com
- - Sagittarius Bet - GG


Argentine player. He left the team and was supposed to return the bankroll ($116.71) and has not responded.

- Name: Luis Sanz

- Country: Argentine
- emails: layduhsanz@gmail.com / lucho_gerlo@hotmail.com
- phone: +5493517062879
- discord: luisitootv

- nicks:
- - layduhsanz - Winamax
- - layduhsanz - 888.com


Argentine player. He left the team and was supposed to return the bankroll ($217.58) and has not responded.

Name: Kristaps Voinikovs
Pokerstars: fight4myFAM
WPN :do8995
Chico: dogma44
Address: Strūžāni, Latvia
Email: kristapsvoinikovs@Inbox.lv / fuloflou@inbox.lv
Discord: kristaps#1022
Skype: da_nu_jus_visus



We started working with Kristaps Voinikovs on November 29, 2023.

From the beginning, we had problems with Kristaps Voinikovs behaving impulsively and playing in tournaments at buyins that were not allowed. There were a couple of instances where he used our funds to play casino games.

After many discussions and a setbacks where he accumulated some makeup he unilaterally decided to terminate the contract on September 8, 2024 - while still in makeup.

After an audit, we noticed unauthorized withdrawals that he admitted to making in order to start playing poker for himself.

The withdrawal amount was relatively low and we agreed on a payment plan. He made the first payment and subsequently claimed he couldn't make any more.

Kristaps Voinikovs owes us $2.4k

Name: Paraschiv Eduard

Pokerstars: Eduardnho11
GGPoker : Kenz01
Winamax: DeBrignac A.

Eduard joined Pocarr in November of 2023.

We started him at a lower ABI due to low recent volume. The plan was to increase his stakes if he consistently hits study/volume milestones, and has good results with above-average winrates. I clearly explained to him before he joined that the move ups are not automatic and there are several possible outcomes, including being moved down.

Eduard struggled for results at the start and grew frustrated with his stakes. Over the past several months, he has repeatedly missed study and volume milestones. His winrates were negative after WCOOP, and we had to reduce his stakes. Naturally, he wasn't happy about the move down.

After a recent call, he agreed to hit the study/volume milestones to show his renewed commitment, and then we'd offer additional coaching resources. Two weeks later, he made no progress on study, and volume was still off-pace. Our investors decided we cannot stake someone who cannot hit our agreed-upon minimum monthly milestones.

We chose to part ways with Eduard and asked him to return cash on hand. He replied that he'd get back to us in a few days. It's been over a week, and he has not returned any of the $1,495 he holds in his accounts.

Eduard owes $13,293.

GGNetwork - Hard Computer
PokerStars - Ovidiush
WPN - Richrich001
Winamax.fr - Chanceux113

mail: lungu.ovidiu92@yahoo.com
TG: @jajai13
Tel: +40 743 553 707
discord: ovidiush
The player has been a member of the fund since last year, but a month ago he stopped communicating. Disappeared with the fund's money.
the total amount of damage is 15657.46$

As per https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...wcoop-1840855/ redeyejedi owes me returns from the pack.

Bought 10% and sent twice to this user, after series no update and funds are still not settled, while he continues to play on PS on DANDYLION2323

Do NOT stake

VictorMorales
Victor Felipe Whitehead Morales
Telegram: +5511959897214
vfmorales2@gmail.com

Ник-GGNetwork
Thomasheldon
Ник-PokerStars
viirto
Ник-WPN
100mundialfc
Ник-iPoker
victorfwn
Ник-PokerStars.ES
victorfwn
Ник-Chico
victorr22
Ник-888Poker
victorr22
Betonline - tysir
Betsson - 4getxploded
Party poker - thomasheldon
https://www.vip-grinders.com/member/my-account/vfff
https://www.instagram.com/vmoraales/
Discord: Victormorales

victormorales.38@hotmail.com
vfmorales2@gmail.com

Stopped responding to messages. Debt 630$

Name: Felipe Prata Oliveira
Pokerstars: Demitri1985
888: DemitriSO
Chico: SportSilver
GGPoker: DemitriSO
Party: demitriso
Pokerstars.es: correrplata
Ipoker: demitriso
Bodog: demitriso
Address: Belo Horizonte / Brasil
Email: demitri1985@gmail.com / felipe_prata8@msn.com
Discord: demitri_so



We started working with Felipe Prata Oliveira on September 19, 2023.

Recently, Felipe Prata informed us that he was having personal and financial problems that were taking up his time and that he would not be able to continue playing poker because he was going to look for a job.

After returning the funds, Felipe was informed that since he had not paid the makeup, the contract would remain active until he paid the makeup in full. Meaning that he couldn't play poker for himself or seek other backing.

Felipe then told us that he intended to play for himself and pay the makeup as he was available.

Days after returning the funds, Felipe locked his Sharkscope results to PokerStars - presumably so he could play without being observed.

Felipe Prata Oliveira owes us the makeup - $2.6k

Name: Hudson José Gomes de Almeida
Pokerstars: Hudshow07
888: N.Scamander
Chico: H.Gomes
GGPoker: hudshow07
Party: Choom99
Pokerstars.es: HJGA07
Ipoker: JohnTextorBFR
WPN: EuSouCasado / Choopiras
Address: Rio de Janeiro / Brasil
Email: hds7poker@gmail.com / gomes.hudson@icloud.com
Discord: hudshow07



We started working with Hudson José Gomes de Almeida on August 31, 2023.

Recently, Hudson José Gomes de Almeida asked us about a possible loan. We asked for additional information to evaluate his request. He replied that he changed his mind regarding needing a loan.

A day later, Hudson Gomes made an unauthorized withdrawal of $427 and did not respond to us again.

Hudson Gomes still had funds on other sites as well and we're assuming he withdrew everything he could.

Hudson Gomes owes us $5.6k

- Name: David Benavides

- Country: Colombia
- emails: alduquedab12@gmail.com
- phone: +573188827254
- discord: alexander_benavides

- nicks:
- - alduquedabb - GG
- - gigisito - Chico Network


Colombian player. From the beginning, the player participated in off-stake tournaments and made a number of re-entries not allowed by the team. Despite warning him several times, the situation only got worse, to the point where we were forced to terminate the contract. The player owes the team $2307.00.

Update on that - Ermin has come back and paid his debt in full and apologized for the bad decisions that he made in the past. He was very cooperative and paid everything owed straight away in the same day he reached out.

Name: Lautaro Nahuel LLama
Pokerstars: Chaca273
888: Chaca273
GGPoker: Chaca27334
Address: San Salvador / Argentina
Email: llautaro018@gmail.com / chaca2733@gmail.com
Discord: chaca273
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lautaro_118/



We started working with Lautaro Nahuel LLama in March 2024. We had previously worked with him in 2021 with no issues.

A few weeks ago Lautaro Nahuel disappeared and stopped responding to our messages. At first we thought something had happened to him, but we have since seen that he's read some messages, but still not responded.

We can only assume that he decided to steal the funds in his possession.

Lautaro Nahuel LLama owes us $2k

Update : The player owes the team $840.60 - 06/dec/2024

- Name: Fernando Pires

- Country: Cape Verde
- emails: Ferpires832@gmail.com / fjose1610@hotmail.com
- phone: 925679223
- discord: cabverd

- nicks:
- - cabverd14 (psFRES)
- - cabverd14 (888)
- - jardineiro19 (WPN)


Player who was absent for 12 days due to work-related issues, then returned and went absent again, never responding afterward. We gave extra days for them to return, but they didn't, and they stole from the team. The player owes the team $140.56.