Pedro Reis

Nickname on Pokerstars: sickhand22
Nickname on GGPokerok: SonHylvar
E-mail: phmr_14@hotmail.com
Contact phone number: 5531***78890

Left the pool and didn't make transfer for the previous period. The debt is $456

Rubén Roig

Valencia (Spain)
Nicknames:
Pokerstars.es: Rubroca
Winamax: Only3Bet4YoU
Sportium: Muck4Ever
Skype id: live:muck4ever85
E-mail: hexicero@gmail.com
Contact phone number: +346***27379

Disappeared and didn't provide results to the pool from 21.08 till 24.09 2021

Milagros Villalba
Cordoba, Argentina

Nickname on Pokerstars: Milipili19
Nickname on Winamax: Mikaza-
E-mail: Milagros_villalba123@hotmail.com
Contact phone number: +54 ***88 45-5094

Disappeared and didn't provide pool results. Also have a staking debt of $230

Brandon Veilleux

New Hampshire USA
brandon.veilleux@yahoo.com
https://www.facebook.com/brandonveilleux83
Screen Name: MinimumPayne FilthyFresh

Brandon was staked by Imawhale for 8 months in 2021. After completing his last set, Brandon told us he was stealing approximately $5000 of our stake funds. He rationalized this theft by saying that since he had won so far on the stake, he deserved more money and was thus stealing our capital. There were some prior red flags regarding his instability.

Definitely avoid any type of financial transaction with him.

Simone dell’anna

Nick ps.it: bestindaworl
Skrill mail minodavidenko@yahoo.it

Asked for staking scammed 1k and disappeared

Just out of curiasity - did you confirm by screenshot of Stars.it lobby that the guy you chatted with also is the account holder of "bestindaworl"?
If you just sent via Skrill without verification, chances are you may got just scammed by someone else (the email name doesn't seem italian to me). The email also represents some name that does not at all match with the account holder you have put in.

The guy has a break and made like 13K Euros playing very low stakes last 12 months - to me it seems unlikely he would just randomly scam 1K€. If the identity has been confirmed though, it is pretty clear, I am just asking.

Either way sorry for your loss.

This reply is to IMAWHALE in regards to Brandon Veilleux. He played most of the time at my place so I saw how much he worked and know roughly how much money he got and I think it's funny how you don't say the entire story and you use certain words that make it seem worse but here the deal....You gave him like $2200 as initial stake and he made you guys well over $12 thousand dollars which he actually sent you guys because I helped him because there was complications in sending it which made it take longer but I know you guys got at least $12 K ... 70/30 is a joke and claiming that it will work itself out to 50/50 is complete bullshit. .... He worked his ass off plus he sent you the 70 /30 on his last winnings in the end he made it so that you guys parted ways on his terms and in that way he made it closer to 50/50 which is fair (you guys made out great on your initial investment and you guys didn't have to do any work nor give him any more money and he did all the work lol like seriously how can you guys think that isn't fair???? ��) but sure make him out to be the thief which is not actually what he is if he is stealing his own winnings from games he sat through making his own decisions .....and seeing as he walked away with less than 50% of the money HE made off the initial investment... instead of walking away with less than 30% of the money HE made ... But really?? You guys are sour over the fact he made it closer to even which he was told it would equate to anyways??? (which was basically used as a selling point because 70 / 30 is rape...) He could have walked away with a lot more but he didn't..... Because he is a stand up dude and sent you guys money upon exiting but sure make him look like a thief when he didn't take advantage of you guys but to me... you guys took advantage of him.... But he didn't let you that's all.... But that's my opinion. What red flags are you even talking about? He sent you guys money every time you asked for it. The only reason it took longer than just a couple days was because there was verifying issues and another time he had to change the bank card he had which is a process as you must already know. So, I'm curious what red flags do you even mean??? The only thing he is guilty of is being naive and believing that it would be more like 50/50 (which he was told in writing even I believe) which was not the case so he wanted out and he took it upon himself to make it more like 50/50 instead of 70/30...so you guys still made over $12 thousand on like a $2000 investment and he made less than you guys did....maybe you should stop saying it will end up working out to 50/50 to future clients? So it is more clear that they will be getting the **** covered stick ...especially since they are the ones doing all the work?!?! It's more like a morally grey area not outright theft... Tomatoes tomatos. He told you how much he was working and how he felt miserable and you guys didn't even address any of his issues ...only the money.... Some 'partnership' seems more like a 'parasite' that is still making out on a meager investment. You guys barely even said anything to him.....you guys just slinked around and got other people to talk to him... You guys should work on your communication skills..because if someone actually addressed his feelings ...maybe he would have felt like it was a partnership...instead of just a money generator for you guys... But hey if you guys feel good about what your job is then what do I know?.... But there is always more to a story ... And things can look different when certain info is left out of the story.

-Kelly

Name: Slimane Nam Bui

GGPoker: Rufus Landet
Party.fr: Metlapoigne
Pokerstars.es: Soullix
Winamax: TanneurLover
Winamax: Nuocmamzz
Winamax: Aim Higher

We chose to part ways with Slimane. He needed to send us our share of a recent chop and the cash held in his accounts. He has not sent this (~$5k) and is not responding to us while regularly playing online poker, as recently as two days ago.

Don't really see through this nonsense of a wall but if 70/30 is what was agreed, this is what he should be sending. If the deal is not to the players' satisfaction he should not take it - simple. While I believe 70/30 is way below what a player should receive in todays' climate (and even 50/50 longterm agreements without additional rewards is slavery ( just IMO), I can see where you are coming from) this doesn't give him the right to breach the agreement. Player and staker agrees to terms for a reason, if the staker wants to give the player a better cut it is their sole decision. Even if he agreed to a 99/1 cut in Stakers favor, he has to pay 99% of his profits. It also doesn't matter if he made them §1 or $1Million.

But they claimed it would be closer to 50/50 with losing sets and he had maybe a total of $300 in losing sets....Because he is a very consistent player. They basically were manipulative and he was naive. I think it's taking advantage of someone but if they claimed it would work out to 50/50 then what is wrong with leaving it as 55/45? Sounds like he left it with exactly how they said it would work out.... Of course my opinion...

Yes, it was him had his documents had his accounts, he blocked me on facebook and disappeared, his name is italian and also sent transaction to his personal bank account.
So there is no dubt its him, and i got to know he scammed other people in the past

This may be the case and I don't doubt that at all, but terms are terms to fullfil them
I have read they are offering No-MU-Cuts, this is very unsual but this also explains the unusual high cut for them. I don't know the terms (how many games before reset etc) but in that case this Deal doesnt seem bad at all. You have to consider, MTTs are a very highly volatile game. You can go thousands of games without making profit, you can go hundreds of buy ins into Make-up if things go wrong. The player in question may even be Phil Ivey and in a Bad case he may not profit for a year if things go really wrong. If that wasn't the case yet, he ran well. I do not doubt his abilities, but that is how the game is like.
For that reason they probably made this type of Deal - not having him grinding thousands of games into deep MU (and not make ANY money in that time, in this case I support this, it's horrible for both sides having a player in MU and not letting them have any money),and instead made their own cut higher. So over the longterm this might indeed work out as roughly 50/50. lets say he ran bad for a few months (no one is safe in MTTs) , then hits a score out of the sudden - in a normal MU Deal as everyone does he doesn't See a penny for himself cuz he has to pay all of it to cover the MU. With expiring MU he does get some money.

In any case, I am not a fan of big stables, I myself stake a couple players, have a good relationship to them, give them good deals, exceptionally even give a Deal that covers their living costs if they put in the work, regardless of results. But this is rare. And if your mate accepted a specific Deal they have to fullfil it, no matter how it went. If it did him bad in this specific case, tough luck, but if it went the other way he would have highly benifited from it. It evens out, especially in MTTs. And if he didnt like all the conditions in the first place, better to not take the Deal in the first place.

Okay thank you for your reply, I was really curious because the datas seemed suspecious to me.
With what was provided+ his data I would tbh have bet you got scammed by some imposer.
Again, sorry for your loss anyway.

So guy agreed to 70/30 and then decided to make it 50/50 because...he didnt think the deal he agreed to was fair? I'm sure if he was on the end of a deal more in his favor, he would have given a higher % to the backer, right?

Perhaps I'd have more sympathy for him if he came to 2p2 to post about the deal initially, but instead he decided to take money that wasn't his and use the 'bad deal' as some sort of moral justification. Dude just stole $$, plain and simple.

Irrelevant.

Also irelelvant, the fact the he made X amount for them doesn't justify stealing.

Again, not a justification for stealing.

He agreed to send back 70%. He didn't. Oh and it's a stake, all of the winnings will be through 'his own decisions.' That's how staking works. You give someone else money to play.

Wow, what a stand up guy! He could have stole more! Get this man a medal.

Guilty of only being naive...and stealing.

No, it's outright theft.

Does this justify the stealing? But they weren't being nice!

And yet another poor justification.

Send back the $$.

Agreed with everything acbarone posted above. Those are some pretty gross justifications for theft.

imo 70/30 with no makeup is very reasonable. 50/50 with no makeup would be nearing absurd in favour of the horse.

Following up here.

Brandon Veilleux had a contract with Imawhale. Same deal we have for all MTT players. 70/30 split in our favor, but with expiring makeup. Every 300 games the set is settled, profits are chopped, and any makeup is wiped away and forgiven. Brandon did run hot during his short time staked by Imawhale. Anyone who plays MTTs for a long enough period of time will experience 300 tournament stretches where they experience SIGNIFICANT downswings. When those occur, Imawhale eats all of the losses and the player loses nothing. We structure this way to protect both ourselves and players from the bad situations that arise when an MTT horse is buried in a huge amount of makeup.

He decided that since he had been winning, he would steal $5k+ of our money, and rationalize it by saying "forget about the contract, forget about potential losses, they should just be happy they made some money". Of course had Brandon lost, he would not have come out of pocket and reimbursed our losses because the current profit split wasn't working out to 50/50. We wouldn't expect him to. If he continued to play he'd eventually hit a nasty downswing, as all players do from time to time, at which time we would swallow some big losses and just keep going at no penalty to him.

Brandon was free to opt out of the contract at any time. He kept renewing the deal over and over up until the point he decided to steal. At any point he felt the arrangement wasn't fair, he could have walked away and we could have settled up. Instead, he kept going and ultimately ran off with the cash.

Well written explaination(also Thanks for sharing the Details to give a better PoV) and eventhough I have no business here - this kind of Deal is, for a MTT player who relies on making money regulary, a very favorable one and any MTT grinder thinking differently should research about the numbers of their game of choice.
It should just be paid up and idk how a player agreeing to this Deal would think differently.

This makes the situation even worse. He wasn't "stuck" in some sort of deal he didn't like with endless make up, he actively chose to renew the deal each time and then when he binked/ran hot enough he decided to take more than what was agreed to.

As a side note, this model seems amazing for MTT horses. If most $$ is made in a handful of binks, they stand to win 30% of those 300 game blocks where they ran hot, and eat zero losses in the others. I only ran a few calculations though.

This has to be one of the best MTT staking deals I've seen in favour of the horse.

I worked with the guys at Imawhale for many years earlier in my career. They are all incredibly fair/kind/helpful people. It's super unlikely that the poor communication was from their end. And as was already said even if there was bad communication there is no excuse for theft. With expiring makeup this was obviously a very fair deal and trying to justify stealing funds because they still ended up money overall is asinine.

Pokerstars: shinerseb
ID: bolovan Silvia (could be fake)

Staked for spins had 10.6k euro makeup, once I requested hand histories to be received from stars she disappeared , I think she was faking hand histories to keep getting reloads while loosing at the stake

I was part of a group that staked this player from 2014-2018. The name we were given was Bogdan Cojocariu, which is definitely a male, as seen by the ID he sent us.

Ah i thought so i also asked for a selfie which wasn't provided, he used a fake Romanian ID i have a copy of, i also found he uses the same ID for a twitter account and a instagram, and a site when tries to sell pictures for crypto. Did you have issues with this player?

I cannot seem to edit post, so since found out real name is Bogdan Cojocariu

and here are links to fake account of who they are trying to impersonate

https://www.instagram.com/miradancing/
https://twitter.com/bolovansilvia
https://rarible.com/token/0x60f80121...aa5ee5:1030819


I also saw screenshot which the ID given to pokerstars, was that of bolovan silvia so i will try get that banned too