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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Andre Tolli
Nooruse 7 a 17, Johvi, EE
Date of birth: November 6, 1981
Pokerstars ID: 56NeverLose
Skype: live : live:tolli1981
Phone (public info according to Skype): +1 37253902543
email: andretolli5@gmail.com
We worked with Andre three times before this one, and twice that worked out well for everyone, and the last time it was basically a $0 situation. In hindsight, we tried one time too many with an emotionally unstable individual, and we lost as a result. Fair enough - just part of the industry in the end, but this post is being done to warn others of this newly minted criminal at this time.
Andre did fine at the start of the stake, but once he started losing, the endless bad beat whining and rigged complaints poured in. We had seen him do that before, but never quite like this. It was clear he was a tilted mess, and we tried to discuss this with him, but he insisted everything was fine. Clearly everything was not fine.
Once his stake got to 6,000 Euros with much of it being makeup that is when he stopped reporting and communicating (about 2 weeks at this point). He blocked himself from searches and Sharkscope, though he clearly has not discovered other tracking sites, so we can see he is still playing. He in fact won $17,600 in a recent tournament.
Did he abandon the stake in a cowardly manner and find a new backer? That would be our guess, but odds are we will never know, and in the end – criminals like this have math go against them. Just the way of the world, and realistically 40 aint the new 20 in this industry so not hard to see how it will eventually end for this middle aged felon.
Anyway, he stole 6,000 Euros, so he gets a different treatment than the throwaway $200 thefts like my post above. Obviously if anyone else choose to back him at this time – assume this will happen to you, and if somehow Andre decides to take actions to offset his current criminal behavior then this post will be updated appropriately at that time.
Quick update on this post. Andre replied on Skype when he read it, and followed all the standard tropes of a common criminal, which was somewhat amusing to see, though it consumed a lot of needless time.
In that long chat he made it clear he knew he had 6,000 Euros of ours, but he needed them to make sure he did not go busto. His plan was to not lose in the future, but without our money he would not be able to do that. He offered to return money of ours he was holding hostage once he had a large enough bankroll to play on his own, and he stressed "I am here, I am not going anywhere." He also stated he would open his Sharkcope for search and be searchable at the tables. He last mentioned that his poker buddies told him he should just take the money because we had no way to collect it.
Anyway, he never did anything he promised, which was a shock to nobody, because felons gonna felon, and an email was sent asking if he would open up being searchable as he promised. The reply was the following (guessing a lot will be censored by the obscenity filter):
"What u think u post Ti 2+2 forum some **** like a little baby. Now you are crying here. **** you all , I don’t care. All deals can’t end positively. We don’t even have any contact. So **** you! After this **** post to two plus two **** you all! "
Which again - standard. I replied telling him he should reply to this post, because that would be at least entertaining if nothing else.
Anyways, the lessons here are to never wait to post a negative feedback on a criminal and also if you are a criminal like Andre - save everyone time and just embrace being a criminal. Do not waste time pretending you will do the right thing, and you make everyone's time (even your own) that much more efficient!