****UPDATE: This has been resolved, everything has been repaid.****
Twoplustwo profile: https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/392603/
Pokerstars SN: futurefeyd
*EDIT* March 20th, 2020: Me and Huy have been in touch. He paid back a fraction of what he owes me, and we have agreed on a schedule to pay me back in full. If there are new updates and/or everything is paid back in full, I will post them here or later on in the thread as a new post.
Cliffs: he owes me ~1.3kUSD (which was supposed to be a GG deposit) and allegedly owes other people as well. Has not been reachable after passing his payment deadline Feb 25th.
Please note that Huy is currently requesting a stake on twoplustwo (
https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1.../#post55760757 ) and I would highly advise not to take his staking deal. I have no doubt about his skill, it’s his money management and BRM skills I judge as being –EV and immoral.
The longer story:
I met Huy in a poker Skype group chat about a year ago where he regularly contributed. At some point he mentioned being an agent on GGPoker, offering 70% rakeback. This was a little higher of a rate than usual but not exorbitant, considering the standard rakeback on GG is 60-65%. I decided to give it a go with him as an agent.
Because for some reason depositing myself on the GGPoker platform didn’t work, we agreed that I would send him BTC and he would deposit for me. Seeing as before we had some short staking deals and he always returned the proper amount of money, I saw no problem in doing this. His winnings in the weeks leading up to that day were far surpassing any amount I would send to him (he was regularly posting winning graphs in the group chat) and generally seemed very knowledgeable and dedicated in short deck games, so I was not worried about his creditworthiness.
I sent him 0.17321552 BTC (approximately 1285$ at the time) on 30th of December 2019, of which I asked him to liquidate 500$ and put on my GGPoker account. He did.
1 day after, GGPoker locked my account without any apparent reason (which also means I did’t have direct access to my wallet anymore). Huy mentioned it was because he transferred the money directly from his player account, so he admitted it was technically his fault. GGPoker agents have direct access to account balances so he told me he would transfer the 500USD out of the account and then everything he owed, back to me. He did the former, and my GGPoker account was closed. He never sent anything back to me. In the meantime, he implied liquidating all of the BTC despite my request to only liquidate to 500USD.
After that, he started being absent from Skype more often and when I did talk to him he mentioned being in a big downswing. During these last 2 months, he suggested I buy access to some GTO ranges from him, in exchange for the amount he owed me. Also he wanted to please me with sending some charts and talking some strategy, which, admittedly, was valuable but not meant as or agreed on as any form of payment. We agreed to lock the BTC part of the money to USD only if the BTC price moved upwards and let him pay back in BTC if not (cfr.
https://imgur.com/1IRlOFu), this on the 25th of February.
I realize my skype messages in the pic have edit pencils next to them. The screenshot is in Dutch as I’m from Belgium and he’s from the Netherlands, but I’m sure anyone who understands Dutch can confirm the content. More screenshots confirming the details of my story are available upon request but I don’t want to spam this post with an overflow of images when one is clearly enough as initial proof afaic.
As was to be expected, neither has he returned my money, nor has he been responsive on Skype. He snap declined a call I made and his status went from “Busy” to “Online” after that so he definitely is able to at least communicate.
Because I never lend him money explicitly and it was meant as a deposit on GG, this is not just some loan not being paid back. I’m not going to use the S-word because I am not sure it was ill-intended from the start. It’s possible, but it’s also possible he was in trouble only after I sent him the money. Either way it's immoral as of now.
The amount he owes me is relatively low. However, I have word of multiple other persons he owes money to as well, some of which I have spoken with personally. It is after talking to one of these people I decided to open up this thread, as to further protect the community. The people involved are free to chime in on this thread.
My reputation on 2+2 is non-existent, so apart from my screenshot it’s essentially my word against his, should he deny the allegations. If you browse through my post history, you can see that I participated in a bunch of staking deals long ago, in which I handled everything correctly and held up my part of the deal. If necessary, I am sure I can get a vouch from some more reputable names in the poker world, but as for now I don’t want to bother those people when we are talking relatively smaller amounts. Also, I am pretty sure the counterparty will not be able to come up with anyone who can vouch for his credibility.
May 25, 2022: This guy has gone AWOL again for 9 months (doesn't respond on skype and his discord address does not exist anymore) and he still owes me money. He has not honoured our payback agreement at all. I see him playing 10A SD and 5k SD tournies on GG Poker under the name "FortNitPro", but has his mute button on so cannot chat with him there.
June 7, 2022: Everything repaid
Last edited by Bobo Fett; 07-29-2022 at 04:54 PM.
Reason: Added updates, removed personal info.