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Old 06-17-2018, 11:26 AM   #4426
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Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Real name : Michael A Breier
WPN Screenname : Letsgrumbol , Autorebuy
Address : 648 suffolk lane, Carmel, Indiana 46032.
Email : freeismine@aol.com , andrew13th@aol.com
Skype : lolbitcoins
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Nalright.Be.Good
Cell phone : 317-414-6242
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We started working with Michael A Breier in January 2018. Micheal A Breier stopped playing towards the end of April and sent us this message on April 28:
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I have been unable to play for the past week as my Son has been going thru some issues and it has been just awful for us as a family. We are working on the matter at hand (his mother and I) and we have hopefully figured it out now. I just want you to know that this will not be an issue going forward and that I am getting back to work tomorrow.
Michael Breier has not played or communicated with us since this message. Nor has he responded to our attempts to contact him by email, skype, facebook, text and via phone calls.

He has however, taken the opportunity to travel to Vegas and played at least 2 (that he has cashed) MTTs in June.

He is contractually obligated to offer any games he's planning to play to us first - which he hasn't done.

Michael A Breier owes us $16,865
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Old 06-17-2018, 11:31 AM   #4427
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Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Screenname : Altoriesgo
Email : lucianoftp1@hotmail.com
Skype : live:laly9090


We’ve had problems for the last 9 months with Altoriesgo. Please contact us for for further details if he approaches you.
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Old 06-17-2018, 11:41 AM   #4428
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Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Stars/888 Screename : Pedropokador
WPN/Party Screenname: DrRunBad

We started working with Pedropokador in September 2016. Last Autumn his volume dropped markedly and although picking up again at the start of the year it has reduced to very little play over the last 3 months.

When asked about his low volume he replied :
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I have no job (in Brazil it is in the biggest economic crises). So I got a loan to buy a car and make Uber, and a car accident happened and I
had no insurance. Now I have a rental car, 2 debits to pay and no time to play. However I never took money from you, all the money stays on the sites .. I hope you understand my moment and I will pay you guys back, but not in a short time.
Pedropokador has returned all of the funds in his accounts and as he has stopped playing, he owes us his makeup of $1134. We will update if and when he makes payments .
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Old Yesterday, 06:54 AM   #4429
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Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Name: Herbert dos Santos Rosa
Stars: herbertros
888: herbertros
Party: herbertros

Herbert joined us in February 2018. Earlier this month he informed us that he was getting a part-time job and would no longer be able to fulfill our requirements.

We asked that he send us his starting bankroll and makeup ($364.63 total). Herbert sent us $94.71. He is continuing to play daily and has stopped responding to our messages and still owes us $269.92

Additionally, we asked that he either make a full buyout based on his EV for the remainder of his agreement, or agree to not play more than 100 games per month for the rest of 2018. He did not agree to this either.
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Old Yesterday, 03:00 PM   #4430
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Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

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Name: Herbert dos Santos Rosa
Stars: herbertros
888: herbertros
Party: herbertros

Herbert joined us in February 2018. Earlier this month he informed us that he was getting a part-time job and would no longer be able to fulfill our requirements.

We asked that he send us his starting bankroll and makeup ($364.63 total). Herbert sent us $94.71. He is continuing to play daily and has stopped responding to our messages and still owes us $269.92

Additionally, we asked that he either make a full buyout based on his EV for the remainder of his agreement, or agree to not play more than 100 games per month for the rest of 2018. He did not agree to this either.
Correction to this - our Latina division knew Herbert had a job and he had this while he was playing for us. This month he said he could no longer handle both and could not meet our requirements.
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Old Yesterday, 06:03 PM   #4431
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Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

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Originally Posted by msusyr24-new View Post
Correction to this - our Latina division knew Herbert had a job and he had this while he was playing for us. This month he said he could no longer handle both and could not meet our requirements.
this stuff winds me up if hes now got a job willing to pay make up back or w/e and wants to end he should be allowed you cant own a person man this is the main reason i would get staked by some power play company its really awful why not do the noble think and let me go live his life and play oin his own dime aslong as your not down money dont give me the old we gave him vids he had access to just take the vise off his nutz man
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Old Yesterday, 11:48 PM   #4432
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Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Lot staking stables do 12-24 month agreements and if person leaves earlier in some of stables they need pay this "full buyout based on his EV for the remainder of his agreement".

@msusyr24, how is this "full buyout based on his EV for the remainder of his agreement" calculated exactly? If i leave in 1st month do i still need pay buyout for the remainder of agreement?
How you calculate EV $/per game or EV full amount exactly? is it based on current results? results after joining stable? estimated results after couching/videos?

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Old Today, 12:26 AM   #4433
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Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

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a full buyout based on his EV for the remainder of his agreement
I've heard many crazy things when it comes to backing-deals, but this tops the list

For transparency, what is the name of your stable msusyr24-new? Just so I know to never apply there even if I'm living on the street.
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Old Today, 05:12 AM   #4434
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Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Pro tip, do not sign contracts if you don't like its' TOC's.
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