Two Plus Two Publishing LLC Two Plus Two Publishing LLC
 

Go Back   Two Plus Two Poker Forums > >

Notices

Transaction Feedback & Disputes For 2+2ers to provide feedback (positive AND negative) and settle disputes with regard to transactions (sales, swaps, stakes, etc.) between 2+2 members.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-06-2017, 05:06 PM   #4226
180grinder
journeyman
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 216
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Quote:
Originally Posted by msusyr24-new View Post
Name: Leonardo Sganzerla de Carvalho
Stars: leobuc
Party: leobuc84

Said he would not be able to fulfill our volume or study requirements and so we asked for a repayment plan. He then said he would meet the requirements and said he'd like to continue (July).

He agreed on 300 scheduled MTTs per month and played 101 in August.

We decided to part ways and asked for a repayment plan of makeup.

Leo owes us $1195
just a question on this
He agreed on 300 scheduled MTTs per month and played 101 in August. did you ask if he had a valid reason was a family member ill or w/e or did you not even ask and just being overly pedantic ?
180grinder is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2017, 08:41 PM   #4227
phourier
stranger
 
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 12
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiStaking View Post
Pokerstars Screenname: BugsBunnyBro / Somblafnul10
Real name: Daniel Smrcek
Skype: somblafnul
Country: Czech (now UK)
Owing : $1.2k roll + $5.5k MU

Daniel went missing with the roll. Been deep in MU for sometime. We have tried to sort it out over skype but is just ignoring messages now.
Also owes me a small amount that I loaned him which he promised to repay by July 1st. Last contact was on June 7th and haven't heard from him ever since.
phourier is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-07-2017, 10:21 AM   #4228
HU Staking Program
newbie
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 28
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Pokerstars Screenname: Thalampro
Real Name: Thanos Lampropoulos
Skype: live:thalampro

Throughout his time with us, he played games he was not allowed to on several occasions. Also, on many occasions he was playing on a side account of a friends (GreekMenace7), rather than playing games under his stake that he was in makeup in.

After approximately 2 months with us, we found that he had been cashing out/stealing staking funds, ($3,300~). He had done this over a few week period. He only told us when he needed a reload at a time when his account very obviously shouldn't have been out of funds. During the time he was cashing out our funds, "Because he needed money for bills", he was playing on a friends account and playing both MTTs and casino games.

At that point, we told him that we had to check in with him daily to keep an eye on his accounts, and to make sure nothing else shady was happening. He asked if he would be able to still do small cashouts as he would need money for bills. We have an EV cashout program where if players produce EV, even if they don't have profit, we let them cash out some funds. We told him that if he put in a certain amount of hours, we'd allow him to still do so. After the first week, his hours were short of the agreed upon number, and more importantly, he was quite a ways off from the minimum EV requirement. We told him that based on those two numbers, we wouldn't allow him to do a profit split at that time (He was still almost $10,000 in makeup).

He became very upset and said he needed "a day to think about it." The next day, he emailed us a list of demands "for him to proceed". They were "non negotiable, take it or leave it". Also, if we declined, he'd pay us back the $11,000+ he now owed us, "probably with some monthly payments". He told us that he didn't have a choice to steal our money, "he didn't have money for bills." We pointed out that while he was stealing our money at this time due to bill money, it was only a couple of weeks ago he had done the same thing *and* had been playing Casino games at the same time.

He also had an issue with a previous backer where he owed them money for playing games he wasn't supposed to with staking money. He didn't tell us about this until after he had started with us.

It's very obvious that he can't be trusted and should be avoided.
HU Staking Program is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-08-2017, 04:36 AM   #4229
SamuraiStaking
stranger
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 4
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Pokerstars Screenname: okim23
Real name: David Miko
Email: d.miko@sezam.cz
Skype: elwood140
Country: Slovakia
Owing : $4.4k MU + $210 roll dump total = $4,610.00

David randomly set his Pokerstars account to hidden from search and played 12 HU hypers (off-stake games) with andrejzeman (same country, guessing close friend), losing 11 of them.

David also introduced us to Jan Seges (Segitooth) who we took on last week. Sent $400 via Skrill and has now said he can only deposit $136 on Stars. Has yet to send us ID or show proof all $400 has gone on Stars. If this is a red herring then will update later but seems too coincidental given the above.

David is now dropped from our stable, and owes the amount above.
SamuraiStaking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-09-2017, 11:28 AM   #4230
Doma176
stranger
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Slovakia
Posts: 12
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Quote:
Originally Posted by SamuraiStaking View Post
Pokerstars Screenname: okim23
Real name: David Miko
Email: d.miko@sezam.cz
Skype: elwood140
Country: Slovakia
Owing : $4.4k MU + $210 roll dump total = $4,610.00

David randomly set his Pokerstars account to hidden from search and played 12 HU hypers (off-stake games) with andrejzeman (same country, guessing close friend), losing 11 of them.

David also introduced us to Jan Seges (Segitooth) who we took on last week. Sent $400 via Skrill and has now said he can only deposit $136 on Stars. Has yet to send us ID or show proof all $400 has gone on Stars. If this is a red herring then will update later but seems too coincidental given the above.



David is now dropped from our stable, and owes the amount above.
okim23 : Guy i now this was a mistake. The reason why i do this one was bcs my friend own money over $2k and wann those money back. I try give him $210 for reason play with him 2.5 and small MTT and get money back. Iam no a thief and not bad guy. I when i tranfer those 210 i have 60 chests so those 210 should be on chcest. Ian not bad guy and dont wanna stole money. This mistake is bad rly sorry for that dont thonking to much when i do this. But iam only human and human make mistake. San i will you mone back
Doma176 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2017, 09:18 AM   #4231
msusyr24-new
centurion
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 106
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Quote:
Originally Posted by 180grinder View Post
just a question on this
He agreed on 300 scheduled MTTs per month and played 101 in August. did you ask if he had a valid reason was a family member ill or w/e or did you not even ask and just being overly pedantic ?
He missed the volume we agreed on in July. He then missed it again in August due to playing live poker (not for us).

We require every Pocarr Latina player to send us a webcam video stating they have read through the Portuguese Agreement, understand all terms, and have asked us for clarity with any term they do not understand. They also state they understand this is not a get-rich-quick-scheme and we are more demanding than most stables. We receive this before we send any initial funds.

This was put into place after this forum said we were exploiting people just wanting a stake. This isn't perfect, but it should help people know exactly what they are signing up for. We've been doing this for roughly one year.

Last edited by msusyr24-new; 09-10-2017 at 09:30 AM.
msusyr24-new is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2017, 09:19 AM   #4232
msusyr24-new
centurion
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 106
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Quote:
Originally Posted by msusyr24-new View Post
Name: Felipe de Souza Torres
Stars: smallzinn
888: smallzinn

Missed our volume milestones for July. He said he would hit them in August.
In August, Felipe played 112 games over 6 playing days.

We chose to part ways with Felipe, asked he return the Pocarr cash he holds and set up a repayment plan for makeup. He has not sent the cash and refuses to set up a repayment plan.

Felipe owes us $608.76
$26.27 received. Felipe owes us $582.49.
msusyr24-new is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-10-2017, 10:55 PM   #4233
msusyr24-new
centurion
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 106
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Quote:
Originally Posted by msusyr24 View Post
Name: Luiz Felipe Demeterko
Stars: LFDEMETERKO

Audit is off $1.3k (over 100 buy-ins). We sent a video going through the audit and asked for him to explain where we messed up or to agree that it's off. He has disappeared and is unresponsive. It is also worth noting that it took us 5+ attempts to get a working audit from him and we still did not ultimately get the audit we actually wanted in the correct format. The passwords for 4 audits did not work.

His sharkscope for 2016 and his current makeup are thousands apart. This along with the above leads us to believe he's 99.9% stealing.
We ended up giving Luiz a second chance and we have had issues again. Audit is off, sharkscope is blocked now.

If any backers are reading this, we're something like 2/10 with taking people back and giving a second chance and it working out. We're going to stop giving second chances effective immediately.
msusyr24-new is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-16-2017, 03:06 PM   #4234
msusyr24-new
centurion
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 106
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Quote:
Originally Posted by msusyr24-new View Post
Name: Denildson Barnabé Alves
Stars: nyll33
888: nyll33
Party: nyll33

Apparently screwed over a Brazilian team that chose not to post in here. They later came to us (today) and showed us proof that this individual accepted a $900 starting bankroll from us and then sent $450 to them immediately thereafter.

I've advised this Brazilian team (and I advise all others reading this) to being using this thread.
We gave Denildson a second chance and he has stolen our money. We gave him a loan after his house was allegedly robbed (he showed us insurance paperwork, passport of his wife to match the claim) roughly one month ago.

After deciding this was not working out we chose to part ways. We asked Denildson simply to return the Pocarr funds he held and to repay us the loan we gave him when the insurance money comes through. He has not responded, has not sent the cash he holds that is ours, and presumably will not send us the loan money we gave him when insurance comes through--though we will update if that ever happens.
msusyr24-new is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-20-2017, 05:47 PM   #4235
NLStaking
stranger
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 2
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Gavrila Gabriel (moaka93) outright stole over 40,000 US Dollars of stake money right after a couple big scores when he was in 50k makeup. The full story and his photos are posted on a website we made for him http://gavrilagabriel.com

Here's a screenshot of our last conversation where we asked him for an audit because of his delay in returning our 40k bankroll. He didn't respond and soon after removed us from Skype and kept the 40k bankroll for himself
https://imgur.com/a/4LxrA

He is still grinding on stars regularly but we hope no other staker crosses paths with this thief
Name: Gavrila Gabriel Viorel
Pokerstars: moaka93
PokerStars.fr: moaka1993
888 Poker: moakaa
Winning Poker Network (America’s CardRoom): makao
iPoker: mokanu93
Winamax.fr as moaka93.
Skype ID gavrila.gabriel3
Email address kiddpokerr@yahoo.com
DOB 10/15/1993
Mobile: +40 0749705780
Pocketfives: moaka1993
Lives in Bucharest Romania but has lived at two previous locations in Romania:
1. Sat vultureni (com.ciresu) oras Braila str.independentei nr.47, Braila
2. STR 1 DECEMBRIE 1918 BLOC S9E SCARA1 ap29. cod postal 800258 Galati
NLStaking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-23-2017, 02:06 AM   #4236
Bobo Fett
2+2 Ad Man
 
Bobo Fett's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Canada, eh!
Posts: 45,277
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Nash-Chenoa dispute moved here:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...spute-1689957/
Bobo Fett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2017, 12:50 AM   #4237
OurSurveySays
Pooh-Bah
 
OurSurveySays's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Posts: 5,235
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Kind of sad to post this, I really liked the kid for a long time, but he has just done a runner it seems. I would love for it to be resolved and very happy to remove this post, dont want to post his passport etc, just think I have to post incase somebody else gets scammed, I'm not saying he is 100% a scammer or anything like that, but it does not look good.

Pokerstars name:
4better
Real name: Arjun Pasricha
Email: ajpasricha@gmail.com
Skype: arjun.pasricha
Country: India
Owed to bitB: $20,614 make-up

Arjun has broken the terms of his contract with bitB multiple times in the period he’s been in the team. We ask players if they ever misreg an MTT that isn’t in their schedule to tell us immediately and we resolve the matter with the player often just allowing it to go on stake as everybody can make a simple error and they shouldn't be punished for innocent one off errors, he has played games outside of his schedule on numerous occasions and gave this excuse for doing so but never informed us, instead we had to find out via investigating through Sharkscope. He has also been asked to send audit files, which we ask of all players, many times and he has yet to send the files, this has been ongoing for 2-3 months now, albeit he had a spell when he was on holiday.

We messaged him on the 7th September about once again playing off stake games, he gave us an excuse that made no sense related to his schedule as he was aware that changes had been made. We looked to resolve this matter with him but he didn’t reply for three days, then comes online to ask why he hadn’t been sent money to play which was bizarre when we had this matter to deal with and he’d chose to ignore it. We asked him to send audit files once he finished his session on the 10th September, he informed us he would do it after he finished his session, since then we’ve tried numerous ways to contact him and he’s had no communication with us at all. We of course are now concerned at why he seems to refuse to send us the audit files, and it’s stipulated in his contract that he needs to send these at our request.

So as well as hopefully prompting Arjun to resolve this matter we also wanted to let the community know that we have this ongoing issue with him.

It is now 25th of September, here is an honest view of our chat logs since September 7th. We allowed players in the stable to enjoy the biggest series of the year and play some games off stakes and gamble themselves, the only clear rule was they should do it before the series starts and post a picture, reasonable request when you think about the admin for 80 or so players. Whenever you see @4better, its just our way of notifications on discord which makes it "pop up"


mondonewc - 09/10/2017
Hey, don't register any more comps plz, as we asked on Thursday, I'll msg you later tnite
@4better
4better - 09/10/2017
not even the small ones?
mondonewc - 09/10/2017
no, please make yourself available online @FelixD will msg you when he's free to discuss the above matter further
FelixD - 09/10/2017
Hey can you asap request the Stars auditFile since you started the staking Agreement and Screenshots of all other Transfers and Cash Outs of all the Sites you play for us. Request the Transaction and Cashout History via Mail and ask them to send the response to bitbmanagement@gmail.com aswell please cc me in those Support emails.

Until we cleared these things we are not going to continue to provide you with Funds and you were already asked to stop playing. So please comply with the requests asap.

If you don’t know how to get these Files you can pm Ray he can show you via Teamviewer.
4better - 09/10/2017
ok iwll do after session
playing 530 as one of my own
(send picture of deposit)

Patrick - 09/10/2017
all off stake games had to bve deposited for over 1 weeka go
its really sad that you never listen to us, because you actually had a great potential and we really wanted you to do great

September 11, 2017

mondonewc - 09/11/2017
Hey @4better

you finished playing ?
mondonewc - 09/11/2017
@4better

Please contact me/felix when your online, it's really unprofessional how you are handling this matter, msg us asap, thanks
Patrick - 09/11/2017
@4better

September 14, 2017
mondonewc - 09/14/2017
@4better Sent you multiple emails, msgd you on Skype plus the messages above, you need to address this matter urgently

Patrick - 09/14/2017
@4better
September 15, 2017

Patrick - 09/15/2017
what the hell is going on, this is beyond ridiculous now.

mondonewc - 09/15/2017
@4better

We've tried numerous times now to communicate with you and you seem unwilling to reply. If you don't message us back and clear up what is going on here within the next 48 hours we will be forced to post on 2+2, Facebook, and other platforms, that you refuse to send audit files despite numerous requests and you owe bitB the full make up, this will also force us to be transparent with the wider poker community on whatever circumstances that have occured. If there any issues you need to maks us aware of we can look to sort this with you. Please contact us today and resolve this matter!
September 16, 2017

Patrick - 09/16/2017
WHAT IS GOING ON @4better ????????????????
September 18, 2017

Patrick - 09/18/2017
?????
Please respond

mondonewc - 09/18/2017
You mentioned above "wont be able to grind from 13th-17th" so we are hoping that you haven't had access to the internet for the last four days. Quite clearly you should've resolved this between Sunday-13th as you said you would knowing that was the case instead of us hearing nothing from you for over a week now. If we don't recieve any communication with you by the end of tmoro we will be forced to post on 2+2 etc.

@4better
OurSurveySays is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-26-2017, 03:17 PM   #4238
SamuraiStaking
stranger
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 4
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Pokerstars Screenname: segitooth / iamtoothless
Real name: Jan Seges
Email: windows3133@seznam.cz (red flag!)
Skype: live:windows3133 (red flag!)
Country: Czech Republic
Owing : $400

Introduced to us by David Miko (okim23) and has disappeared with our initial $400 roll. Most probably friends with David and andrejzeman and an extra way to extract some of our roll into their accounts. - see post 4229
SamuraiStaking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-01-2017, 10:05 AM   #4239
OMGClayDol
Carpal \'Tunnel
 
OMGClayDol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 10,866
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Quote:
Originally Posted by king2173 View Post
hey there!

just posting because me and a friend got scammed by one of our stakees. he was living from the role we gave him for more than 2 years not mentioning anything about that. what a shame we didn't find it out earlier but we trusted that guy. the scam amount is about 70k$.

stars nick: ihavenoclue1
other sites: demonized1, ihavenoclue1, ihavenoclue123

real name: konrad rheye

he says that he is willing to pay us the money back but i can only believe that if he realy starts giving some back... i hope it is going to take a good end. i will update if there are some news.
Quote:
Originally Posted by konnikickass View Post
Hello,

My dealings with Thomas Scholze and Moritz Dietrich

My Poker Journey started 2,5 years ago when i was a student playing 2$ SNG,and got ask by thomas to join a new projekt where they are looking for relativ new players to invest/coach. We established a staking deal where i would initially play for 3000 Games and then it would be cut. So the months went by i got coached and made some profit at some point we were 80k$ in plus since i was relying on this money because i had no income, quit my study and went full-time playing. i dont remember the exact conversation since its 2 years ago and i cant look up the chat since skype doesnt save them. we couldnt get the money because it was on fr sites mainly(bankcashout taxproblem). i was aware that we said that i just take money of the stars roll if i have no ohter choice since i have to eat/pay rent somehow(i was mainly playing 6 day a week). the next 2 year we i worked really hard we did coachings but the variance wasnt on our side and we went down again(playing highstakes). i always though that my stakers are aware that i am taking some money to live, since i cant live from nothing for 2,5years. also i justified it to myself because we initally said 3k games and then we cut it since an investment has a chance of failed so this way we were gonna look at the numbers when we grinded it out(freeroll) i was never gonna get money behind the backs, at some point we were always gonna divide it down and then cut it. sadly i didnt write down all of my transfers since the begining i didnt know back then as a student realativley new to poker. so i was always transfering money from poker site to poker when i needed some and i never really knew whats going on. i went to vegas in 2016 that alone probaly cost 10k$ but it was an investment for the staking. a few weeks back thomas messaged me that alot of money is missing, and i told them my point of view. they totally didnt understand or remember (organisation was always lacking) and had no empathy at all for the situation, moritz started to not respond at all. now they wanted me to get all the numbers from the beginning. which i did, but we dont really have a right number yet i need to write everything out skrill/all internet sites. they just settled with the number 70k$ for now, which i doubt is right, but i will get the right numbers when i am at home. i am sure alot of live transfers i remember havent even been considert yet, alot of not written down transfers where i gave live money back. i also bought ipads for 1k+ which havent been considered yet. so there is still alot to figure out i guess the number will be around 40-50k for the 2,5 years (inital cut). overall i told them that iwas very sorry and never had the intention to steal behind there back, i always though they are aware of it(2,5years quite some money?) and in the end we were always gonna get the sums right. i just wanted to grind it out for them and me. i also gave them all details of all accounts i have to login and fully cooperated, i also told them that iwas 100% gonna repay the money i owe them + my part of the mark up. i and alot ohters think to use the term scamm is way to much for this incident. i am working on getting them there money, its a very bad situation to grind for 2,5 years in the end playing 8 bb/ev, but i will deal with it and they will get their money. sadly they showed no empathy for the missunderstandings with the inital cut, the freerolling me and me just wanting to make the project succesfull. i never wanted to cause anyone problems and will pay the money back. i am sorry. Sure its easy to start a project and make some $$$ by freerolling, in the end i didnt know that i might possibly need spare money for 2,5 years. Somehow a stakee has to live somehow.. still i am sorry for the problems and i will fully repay.

konrad
Quote:
Originally Posted by KingBustYou View Post
What a freaking mess!

How nobody ever thought about keeping records of all the finances/transfers/trades... is mindblowing.

Both parties are at fault, but I'd say that it's the backers' their own wrongdoing (or nothingdoing) that caused this whole situation.

How can you have a horse play for you for over 2y and not have done one single audit LOL

And you thought Konrad was living off of thin air since he was grinding full-time for you guys?

If no rules & regulations have been set, then how can someone be at fault for not following a non-existent protocol?

Konrad seems willing to find the right number owed and work on oaying you guys back, co-operation will speed things up.

Should also consult an established Staking Group to learn how you follow up on your stakees.
I know king and the other staker very well personally and 100% believe their version of events and vouch for their trustworthiness. It is absolute nonsense to blame the stakers here - obviously they could have handled this better but at the end of the day they were simply naive and trusted someone who is obviously scamming and 100% in the wrong. Definitely do not deal with this person. This victim blaming is just a joke though, whether the stakers were good at their job or not is irrelevant to how much of a scam this is.

I'm sure there will be updates if he repays.
OMGClayDol is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2017, 06:53 AM   #4240
boliver
see my staking thread
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Catch me if ya can!
Posts: 2,535
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Name: Joao Diogo Mendes Barbosa
Pokerstars - 2xjb
Partypoker - the2xjb
888 - 2xjb888
Stars.pt - Monkeydvinci

Country - Portugal Citizen but living in UK
Email - barbosajoaodiogo@gmail.com
Skype - 2xjb

https://joaobarbosathief.wordpress.com/

Amount owed: $5,608.95 MU and $2,485.64 in accounts = $8,094.59 total stolen


A fairly worrysome stake from the start - Joao left us in $5,608.95 MU because of family issues back home in Portugal. We had zero issue with that and encouraged him to get home and take care of things. After some time back home he decided he wanted to play again. So, we loaded his Pokerstars.pt account, Skrill, and other poker accounts with $2485.64 so he could get back in the swing of things. Seeing as he put in nearly zero volume, we were constantly given excuses when asking for screenshots, and there was a general feeling something was wrong. We’ve constantly tried to communicate over the past 6 months and have been given a laundry list of excuses as to why he can’t send funds or provide screenshots. He is not to be trusted at this point. We’ll be making a website with all of the above information so that people know he’s a thief. Joao (or any contacts in the Portugal community that may know him), please get in contact with us and make things right.

Last edited by orange; 10-11-2017 at 10:02 AM.
boliver is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-11-2017, 04:52 PM   #4241
msusyr24-new
centurion
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 106
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Name: Victor tolgyesi Mussi
Stars: VitaoMTD
888: vitaomtd
Party: vitaomtd

Victor continually missed our study and volume agreements. After many chances we finally decided to part ways and agreed on a repayment plan.

He made 3 successful repayment plans (one in July, August, September) and missed this month's. We messaged him on Skype, via Email, and Facebook and have received zero responses.

He is continuing to play online poker daily and at this point must be choosing to ignore our messages.

Victor owes us $616.72
msusyr24-new is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2017, 03:55 PM   #4242
msusyr24-new
centurion
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 106
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Name: Daniel Miraki
Stars: Olempia

Dan could not meet our volume or study requirements while finishing up school.

Dan had not played for weeks, was not using our resources, and played an off-stake MTT which is not permitted under our agreement.

We had a phone call and agreed to part ways with him owing us $0 in makeup and only needing to return the $100 he had in his account to us (our money).

It has now been 3 weeks since we had this phone call and Dan has had many excuses. It has been 8 weeks since he last played an on-stake MTT for us.

At this point we're still waiting to receive our money back, the off-stake $44 played (his last game played) looks sketchy (possibly used our funds), and it's time to post that we cannot suggest backing this individual in the future.
msusyr24-new is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2017, 01:21 AM   #4243
Bobo Fett
2+2 Ad Man
 
Bobo Fett's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Canada, eh!
Posts: 45,277
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Quote:
Originally Posted by daviid View Post
how do you make that post as well as a site with all of the guys personal info (including pictures of his passport) without giving any sort of background info?
Yeah, I'm inclined to agree. JoeBlack, feel free to repost with an explanation, and without the home address.
Bobo Fett is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-20-2017, 05:37 PM   #4244
StandardBacking
centurion
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 137
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Real name : Arseny Porter
Pokerstars screenname: theenutsman
WPN screenname : Iamgoot
888 screenname : kushorhaze
Party screenname : notagainsour
Email : arseny.porter@hotmail.com
Skype : arseny19891
Phone number :cell-4168544433 home 9057602347
Address : 269 Charlton Avenue, Thornhill , Ontario , L4J 6H3
Country : Canada.
Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/arseny.porter
Photo : https://i.imgur.com/DIRKTo9.jpg
Drivers licence : https://i.imgur.com/Uty9a0m.png
Pokerstars cashier : https://i.imgur.com/mTJRsEz.png


We started working with Arseny Porter in December 2016.

Throughout our relationship Arseny Porter had a problem following buyin limits. It escalated in the last few weeks with Arseny Porter doing $495 in buyins he wasn't allowed.

Theenutsman then disappeared for a couple of weeks and finally answered our requests for audits on October 10th with:
There is 642 missing from the account that I will cash in asap. My buddy maxed out his cc and he needed some money online so he asked me if I can send him some and he would cash in when as soon as as his direct deposit came in from his work..so I didn't want to send the audit before he sent it back and it should be coming in any day. I know I definitely shouldn't have done but he promised me he'd send it back a little sooner than it's been but stupid of me. Definitely very sorry for that wasn't my brightest moment definitely won't happen again...As for the WPN spew. It's just so depressing playing high variance tournies for months running deep and not making a profit just like breaking even. And the WPN tournies had such good value and overlays and I also had a really bad beat my first go at the 88 so was really tilted and just the combination of that defnitley didn't result in the smartest decisions. Again really sorry for that I'd rather not play on that site I really don't like the re entries.

Arseny Porter has not deposited the stolen funds since that message. Multiple times asking us to extend the deadlines.

Arseny Porter owes us $8,300
StandardBacking is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Yesterday, 11:19 AM   #4245
Thalampro
stranger
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 1
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Quote:
Originally Posted by HU Staking Program View Post
Pokerstars Screenname: Thalampro
Real Name: Thanos Lampropoulos
Skype: live:thalampro

Throughout his time with us, he played games he was not allowed to on several occasions. Also, on many occasions he was playing on a side account of a friends (GreekMenace7), rather than playing games under his stake that he was in makeup in.

After approximately 2 months with us, we found that he had been cashing out/stealing staking funds, ($3,300~). He had done this over a few week period. He only told us when he needed a reload at a time when his account very obviously shouldn't have been out of funds. During the time he was cashing out our funds, "Because he needed money for bills", he was playing on a friends account and playing both MTTs and casino games.

At that point, we told him that we had to check in with him daily to keep an eye on his accounts, and to make sure nothing else shady was happening. He asked if he would be able to still do small cashouts as he would need money for bills. We have an EV cashout program where if players produce EV, even if they don't have profit, we let them cash out some funds. We told him that if he put in a certain amount of hours, we'd allow him to still do so. After the first week, his hours were short of the agreed upon number, and more importantly, he was quite a ways off from the minimum EV requirement. We told him that based on those two numbers, we wouldn't allow him to do a profit split at that time (He was still almost $10,000 in makeup).

He became very upset and said he needed "a day to think about it." The next day, he emailed us a list of demands "for him to proceed". They were "non negotiable, take it or leave it". Also, if we declined, he'd pay us back the $11,000+ he now owed us, "probably with some monthly payments". He told us that he didn't have a choice to steal our money, "he didn't have money for bills." We pointed out that while he was stealing our money at this time due to bill money, it was only a couple of weeks ago he had done the same thing *and* had been playing Casino games at the same time.

He also had an issue with a previous backer where he owed them money for playing games he wasn't supposed to with staking money. He didn't tell us about this until after he had started with us.

It's very obvious that he can't be trusted and should be avoided.

I should have never cashed out money that weren't mine, I take the full responsibility for that. When I took this money most of them were used to play Mtts and some casino games. I didn't need to pay bills at that time everything was paid from some money I had from previous splits and from some live poker I played and earned there. After I told them what happened we agreed to proceed with daily checks and if I want to cash out any money for bills I must have certain hours and ev. After one week I had ev a little below from what I should and missing 2 or 3 hours. I asked them only 100$ to pay the internet or they would disconnect it and I wouldnt be able to play and 50$ for a supermarket so that I have food for my family. And that I would continue to play as much as I can (I had played 42h in that week plus attending university plus wife and kids) and I would try more. They didn't give it to me so I took a day to think it over. Next day I send them that I'm not continuing unless I have this money (150$) to pay what I mentioned (from day to day I was waiting the internet service to stop cause it was unpaid so naturally I wouldn't be able to play) . They declined and I kept the money that was in my account and I told them I'm gonna repay with monthly payments. I'm currently unemployed (we barely have food and rent provided by our families) and I can't give them money yet even though I would like because I'm no thief. Their reaction was to create this http://www.thanoslampropoulosisathief.com
While I understand and i can't blame them of course, I find it terrible that they have posted inside the site photos of my wife and some guys that I don't even hang out and they refuse to take them down unless I give money. What does my "wife"( we are not married) and these guys have to do with my affairs and with what I did? To have my pics posted I have no problem but another people's photos?
Thalampro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Today, 09:36 AM   #4246
msusyr24-new
centurion
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 106
Re: **NEGATIVE Feedback Thread (for Marketplace and all Subforums)**

Name: Oleg Crulicovschi
Stars: Hentasy
Stars (possibly): Ivashenkoukr

Shortly after joining, Oleg asked one of our players to send him a reload (which we allow). However he asked that it be sent to this Ivash name above that we've never heard of. He requested an amount 3x larger than his starting bankroll is. He's not responding to communication attempts, not once updated his financials with us.

He has 100% stolen funds.

Oleg owes us $700.
msusyr24-new is offline   Reply With Quote

Reply
      

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2008-2010, Two Plus Two Interactive
 
 
Poker Players - Streaming Live Online