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08-02-2017 , 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ratslla
Guy stole 5 figures, talking about morals. Scumbag ist the idiot who got outed here. I for sure would do whatever is needed to get such an amount back.

Ofc the stables want to make money, they're not the pope afterall
This poor woman could likely know nothing at all about what her son has done.

There are countless parents out there who have children who have drug issues who result to stealing to feed their habit. Does the courts resort to defaming their parents when seeking justice? Do they ****.

This is why poker staking companies are so so lol. They are run by people who lack empathy and basic human decency.

You had no idea about the mental state of this poor lady. For all you know, this could lead to a chain of events that you will be very, very sorry for.

Here is some reading for you

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicid...intha_Saldanha

You got mugged off. You knew the risks. How about you use some proper due diligence in the future and you run more regular audits.

Deal with it like adults and thru the appropriate channels, not by dragging some innocent woman into it.
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08-03-2017 , 08:02 AM
^ I have nothing to do with this case, nor am I the owner of a stable. So yeah, I don't really care. Just stated my opinion IF I was the one who got scammed.
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08-03-2017 , 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by AKyouwin
This poor woman could likely know nothing at all about what her son has done.

There are countless parents out there who have children who have drug issues who result to stealing to feed their habit. Does the courts resort to defaming their parents when seeking justice? Do they ****.

This is why poker staking companies are so so lol. They are run by people who lack empathy and basic human decency.

You had no idea about the mental state of this poor lady. For all you know, this could lead to a chain of events that you will be very, very sorry for.

Here is some reading for you

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicid...intha_Saldanha

You got mugged off. You knew the risks. How about you use some proper due diligence in the future and you run more regular audits.

Deal with it like adults and thru the appropriate channels, not by dragging some innocent woman into it.
It's obviously the scammer's fault here.
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08-03-2017 , 10:31 AM
You're right obviously don't see how its his mothers. Be interesting to follow this always got the impression every staking contract was worth less than the paper its written on but having a lawyer on retainer to enforce gambling contracts sounds very cool maybe we will have a historic case that sets the precident for poker backers taking horses to court. Far as im aware this is yet to happen.
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08-04-2017 , 03:46 PM
Name: Christoffer Lager
Stars: #Lager-1991
888: DIFSTHLM1891

In his first week with us asked how loans work. This should have been a warning sign.
Fast forward 7 weeks later and he also asked for a loan again. We quickly declined as he was not putting in the volume or study we agreed on.
Sharkscope did not match the money he reported he lost in the past 5 weeks and we asked for an audit. It has been 8 days and he has not sent this.
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08-10-2017 , 03:35 PM
Player: Jakub Horejsi
PS: Horeni68
Skype: robinho161

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Originally Posted by luisribas
Considering this feedback, i spoke with OP before decide to stake this player, in the end of November 2016.

Until the end of 2016, when the Czech Republic close the poker market for several weeks, the things was going ok, not great, but ok.

In the begining of January he told me that the poker market was close in there country and that will open soon.

I asked him to send the funds he had, around 1.1k§ and he told me it wasnt available, but the regulation should be very fast, only 1 or 2 weeks.

During the month of January i asked him, several times, to send the money back, cause didnt make any sense Stars put close the poker to the players and dont let them take out the funds.

I asked audit history during that perido, and he took a lot of time to send it.

In the end of January Czech Republic get the license and in 5 Febrruary he wrote this:

"i cashout 800 2 weeks ago and took money on school in few next days ill deposit back 800 and give u back on account its simple now im going every days to work was out of prague and earning money to send u back i hope till friday would be everything back ... im working in my dad now so not at prague at all
no worries please
i have now around 650 euro
if i go count to euros
just give me chance to send u back..."

He told he will pay me back until the end of the week... ofc he didnt.

During the next days will deposit at Stars, paysafecard, Skrill, and always apear a problem.

After i push him with a report in several poker foruns, he wrote this:

"yea u can report me everywhere where u want... im waiting for new passport cuz i lost it and dont have second ID pass. so it take like week or smth but its up to u.. if u write me u could say goodbye with ur money cuz its unfair..
write u in the evening not at home"

Today a new update:

"ok mate.. i found finally new staking in czech republic one guy.. he will stake me on live game and im travelling to slovakia on online.. ill send u money by payment 100e per week first payment would be next week. cuz i neeed pay my flat there etc.. if ill hit smth on stars ill report u and will give u my half from staking
cuz i know i finished in ur group
so i found somebdy new maybe he will pay out
that prize
ill ask him
i think this is the best solution"

I told him i will report him and he told me if i do that, he will not pay me back.

If the future back read this, dont invest on him, caue almost for sure you will get problems.

He owe the 1.1k$ he took + 3.7K$ MU.

If he start payng me back, i will update here.
I have been meaning to post this for a while.

Staked Jakub mid-late 2016. Somehow missed the previous negative or I would not have proceeded.

Jakub won some tournaments and I asked for money to be sent to me about 4.5k EUR. He continued playing but this was taking an abnormally long time, so I asked about it and told him to send back the other rolls because I was suspicious. He used a lot of this to sportsbet to try and win back what he lost...essentially stealing more and gambling with it. I was lucky he did not lose much of it.

I did a lot to personally help this person and the fact he did this, and the way he has treated me afterwards is quite incredible. No lesson was learned and there is no moral code since he has done this to someone again. Since the incident, he was always in contact but almost no effort to pay a single $. Eventually after months and months he told me he was able to send me $50 a week. This lasted 2 weeks.

You will hear every excuse in the book and he will tell you, you cannot post on 2+2 or you will never see your money.

Avoid this person at all cost. Shame really, could be a winning player.

I will also post if he somehow starts paying, no point posting figures, he owes so many people it'd be irrelevant.

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08-11-2017 , 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by imawhale26
2.) If we haven't heard from you by this Tuesday 8/1, we'll be reaching out to your family. Your Ignition account is in your mom's name so unfortunately she's going to get dragged into this from a legal perspective as well.
Were you aware that his account was in his mother's name? If not, why not. If so, why were you happy to stake him?
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08-12-2017 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by LostOstrich
Were you aware that his account was in his mother's name? If not, why not. If so, why were you happy to stake him?
Judging by their disgusting behavior here, they probably saw it as useful leverage in case things went bad.
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08-13-2017 , 11:19 AM
http://staking101.com/forum/showthread.php?tid=7834

Brett Milley
bmilley27 - PokerStars
https://www.facebook.com/bmilley1
Skype - facebook:brett11milley

Amount owed $1450
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08-18-2017 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by msusyr24-new
Name: Haroldo Silva Brito
Stars: eng.brito

We decided to part ways and only asked that he send us the Pocarr cash he held. He has not sent this nor responded to us in over 2 weeks.
This "cash held" has been received by us.
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08-21-2017 , 09:53 AM
Name: Anthony Rittenberg
Stars: ricko1234
888: antrick123
Party: Osamabeenlimin

Sent us this message today:
hello alex , I had a emergency in my private life that I am not going to go in to but as I have been in MU for a few months and depleted all my savings I had no other choice to take a couple of top ups $230 and $300 and also withdraw whatever funds I had on my poker accounts , I wouldn't of done this unless I really had no other choice as you know I have never once asked for loan while being staked by use and always used my own funds but as I said absolutely no other choice , as I now owe a full debt of $4800.36 it would take far to long to pay off playing poker and I couldn't afford to live I have decided to go back to full time employment for my uncles business I start on the 18th of September I will be quitting poker for good and working full time therefore I will comeback to you in a couple of weeks with an offer of a payment plan when I find out what my monthly income will be I will try an make offer that's gets the debt payed off as fast as possible , if you need to speak to me in the mean time you can email on robertrittenberg@gmail.com otherwise I will log in on here with an offer in the next couple of weeks and give an offer of a payment plan
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We will update here when he begins repayment and again when that is completed.
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08-21-2017 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Rodrigo Feres
Name: Jonatan Machado
Stars: AA do Garcia

Jonatan was playing for Pocarr Latina. He played a couple of sessions and stopped. We asked him why, but he never replied. We decided to part ways with him and requested only the COH, which wasn't received.
Jon returned the COH today.
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08-22-2017 , 08:34 PM
Gaasbeek888 on pokerstars stole 6000 dollar from us
backers be aware
Name Elmer Gaasbeek from Harderberg the netherlands
twitter is @gaasbeeks

any questions please pm
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08-30-2017 , 12:05 PM
cq60615====SCAMMER

Originally Posted by cq60615 View Post
Anyone not watching McGregor V Mayweather?

Have $350 ACR (ayysj917)
Want $350 square cash app, BTC or ETH
******SCAMMER******


Stole $250 from me.
Sent Via Square Cash on Sunday August 27th
Has not sent funds to my ACR account or refunded my money....
scooter_banks is online now Report Post
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08-30-2017 , 10:38 PM
Name: Andrew Derek Taylor
- wiisssppppaa on PS -

Hello, Ive been staking Andrew since mid April this year. He joined my stable after we both made a deal with his old backer how we will make this deal work. At first everything was fine even tho he had hard time to follow few simple rules of mine ( to make a rail daily, to post fot a reload on time etc etc.. really small rules ). He played regulary tho. Sometimes mid June he just disappeared for a few weeks. When he finaly reached to me he left me msg on skype that he is on a vacation and will be back in a few days. That was very suspicious but i waited. Then he came clean and said he got banned on PS due some investigation on his and his friends account and also lost staking funds on poker888 ( ~4.5K$ ) playing cash games drunk after one night out too. Obv cash games werent in our deal. Since he was well know and respected member of the community i decided to give him a chance to fix his mistake if he gets unbanned from PS which he did eventualy. Once again everything looked fine, he played regularly but not long after started to slacking once again. He wud just play weekends and be gone during the week. When i asked him what is going on he said he is in financial problems and will need to quit playing poker unless i keep loaning him till he gets out of the hole. I didnt want to loan him anymore but also didnt want to ruin his dream of being poker player so i offered a solution. I wud cut his MU down from 32K to 0 and take much better profit cut in future till he cover dropped MU that way which he and the old backer who have interests in this deal both agreed. His first session was this last Sunday and he won and asked for a split. Since he finished his session very late i red that request in the morning and told my admin to do it for us. At the time only rail Andrew did was for PS. Admin told me that he sent 500$ to someone and when i asked to who he said he swapped for 888 which was fine but since he didnt make a rail for 888 too i didnt know so i cudnt make a split and told him that since i dont know his "endroll" and thing he already started new session i CANT do split ( not dont want to , just cant ) when he went nuts, first being sarcastic then started calling me "****" and sayin that he wud break me at half if im near him etc so i decided its enough and drop him. He did send remaining funds back. Posting all this just to warn u all that hes not reliable and in tough spot where he is ready to make bad decisions and possibly scam somebody. And alo owe me loan and owe to his old backer.
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08-31-2017 , 10:35 AM
Name: Gilnei de Paulos
Stars: BellatorGP

He decide to out the stake for himself after less than 2 months, he said will send our money back in cashier and pay his debts with the team, but never do. He owes us $ 310 usd.

Last edited by VinnyCout; 08-31-2017 at 10:48 AM.
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08-31-2017 , 10:41 AM
Name: Julio Cesar Cestari dos Reis
Stars: JulioBTS

After two chances, he does not play the miminum games per month, less than 10% of the target. We have decided to part aways with him, he not return money in his cashier and pay other debts with the team. He owes us $ 230 usd.
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08-31-2017 , 10:47 AM
Name: Guilherme Honorato Lombardi
Stars: Redpollux

After one month, guy disappeared, not play the miminum games per month,we try contact but with no reply. He not send back us the amount in cashier and pay other debts with the team. He owes us $ 230 usd.
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08-31-2017 , 03:46 PM
Pokerstars Screenname: scott-river
Real name: Vinicius Scott Wermelinger
Email: viniciusscott@gmail.com
Skype: frozen_nit
Phone Number: 21 996140392 (whatsapp)
Address: Rua lopes da Cunha, 26 05, Fonseca, Niterói, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil 24120090
Country: Brazil
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/vinicius.scott.9
Federal Photo ID:Front / Back
Photo holding ID: https://www.screencast.com/t/eZTFOuGmrann
Pokerstars Cashier: https://www.screencast.com/t/oyiQTD7SBtw


We started working with Vinicius Scott Wermelinger in September 2016.

Vinicius Scott Wermelinger requested a loan at the end of July, that we turned down. He then told us that he'd have to start a full time job and is quitting poker, but would pay back makeup once he was able to.

We noticed scott-river has been playing many games over the last 2 weeks. We've tried to communicate with him about paying back what he owes us in makeup. But he has refused to return our communications and has locked his sharkscope account.

Vinicius Scott Wermelinger owes us ~$3,900.
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09-01-2017 , 03:49 PM
Name: Rafael Reis Donda Gomes
Stars: PiRuU163

After agreeing to an 18 month coaching+backing deal, Rafael requested to leave as he felt uncomfortable being staked. We said okay and asked that he send the Pocarr cash he held and the $51.50 makeup he had accrued. Rafael sent the cash he held but has not sent the makeup and has not replied to Skype or Email messages.
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09-01-2017 , 03:53 PM
Name: Andrei Batista da Silva
Stars: Andrei.hbl
888: andrei.hbl

Andrei was not meeting the study or volume milestones we agreed on when he joined and thus we decided to reduce his stakes. He was unhappy with this and asked to leave and set up a repayment plan which we agreed on.

The first payment date came and went and Andrei did not send. He has not responded to messages since.

Andrei owes us $2957.20
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09-03-2017 , 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by msusyr24-new
Name: Andrei Batista da Silva
Stars: Andrei.hbl
888: andrei.hbl

Andrei was not meeting the study or volume milestones we agreed on when he joined and thus we decided to reduce his stakes. He was unhappy with this and asked to leave and set up a repayment plan which we agreed on.

The first payment date came and went and Andrei did not send. He has not responded to messages since.

Andrei owes us $2957.20
Do you vet your horses at all prior to signing them on? Seems like half the posts in this thread are about your horses running away with your money..
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09-03-2017 , 11:23 AM
Not very well i already made this point.

We appreciate all the warnings but i would wager most of these people wouldn't make it into any other stable. Breaking news you need more than a pulse and internet connection to be trustworthy.
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09-03-2017 , 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by U shove i call
Not very well i already made this point.

We appreciate all the warnings but i would wager most of these people wouldn't make it into any other stable. Breaking news you need more than a pulse and internet connection to be trustworthy.


poker players sometimes just dont have business sense
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09-03-2017 , 07:56 PM
Still important to out people for scamming.

I'm not aware of Pocarr's vetting practices and perhaps it's less rigorous than other groups, but it's largely irrelevant here. Thread exists to help others in the community, and the fact that Pocarr are willing to post about potential threats is something that should be applauded, not mocked.
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