Quote:
Originally Posted by Monteroy
This is a player who we backed a couple times for a long time, until eventually he told us he probably needs to quit poker. Unfortunately there were some other difficult behaviors along the way.
Ivan Maciel Neto
Pokerstars ID: evaaaaaaaaan (Brazil)
Skype: e.dutch
email: ivanmaciel3@gmail.com
A challenging player to work with, as he played improper games many times, including a final blast of what was left of his bankroll. When asked about that he indicated that since he had done that before without us reprimanding him that he interpreted that to mean he could do it whenever he needed. He has not won at poker in a long time, and unfortunately he does not like coaching - citing a phobia of speaking to other people. He did not like the idea of playing at different times (when the games were softer) because he did prefer to wake up around noon. He did not want to put more volume in. Unfortunately it is now 2016, approaching 2017 - so it is not surprising that his general approach no longer produces income, except for chops in makeup when he has a good day or loans.
He did openly questions whether he could win anymore at poker, and suggested he may have to quit permanently and go back to squatting at the airport to get food scraps (probably one of the weirder statements I have heard, I assume in an attempt to make me feel guilt for the first time in a long time). I suggested we try to find another backer for him (a couple were interested) who would purchase the makeup at a discount (with a healthy reduction in makeup to Ivan as well) to provide him with some different intense coaching and bring his game back to 2016. He refused, citing the phobia of talking to people. He had little interest in extra coaching with us as well.
If he was choosing to quit poker, I suggested a fair resolution was for him to pay back about 50% of the makeup (actually was closer to 30%), but he said he could not do that as he would have to sell his fridge. I thought he must have a nice fridge as that would be around $2,000! He did make it a point that he is not a thief, and to prove that he did send back the remaining 60 cents in his account after destroying the last $600 playing improper games. Indeed I confirmed that this helped show that he was not technically a thief, although it might also show that he could not find a 60 cent tournament to his liking...
As for him quitting poker - he quickly locked his sharkscope after, though forgot to do that on other tracking sites, so as is usually the case quitting poker ends up being not quitting poker. No real surprise there.
Now does this belong here? Technically, he did not openly steal funds (though people can debate how playing improper games falls within the theft category). As a human he was not that bad. He was definitely a good investment a couple years ago, however the game passed him by and he would not do what was needed to adapt. As well, he did violate several rules on many occasions, and the difficulties he suggests he has (particularly with talking to others) makes it a total package that needs to be posted to warn other backers to avoid the same mistake.
Don't worry, Gary, you'll have your money back! It's just that, playing $2.50s SNGs to recover a $4900 makeup, after 6-8 months without cashouts would be real hard.
I still believe that, when I posted multiple times on the rail group on Skype that I was in some final tables of tournaments that I was not supposed to be playing, you should reprimand me. But apparently that only became a problem when I was not winning anymore.
About that last "blast" it was actually $340, not $600. Not that it matters, or make it less of a mistake by me, but, if you are going to expose that, please use the correct amounts.
About my social anxiety I always left clear that I prefer to do written reviews, and/or watch videos and stuff. In addition to that I don't speak english very well. We never got into a call with each other, we always solved things via chat. That's why it worked for some time.
And no, I don't own a $2000 fridge, my point was that I had $0 at the time, and if I had to pay you right away I would have to sell stuff from home... Which was what I did to get me on the game again. Sold one of my monitors and deposited $130 on Stars to get me playing again. And that's why you didn't receive your $2450 yet! It's been a struggle. And you exposing me like that just made it a little bit harder. But that's fine.
I'm a nice guy, man, my heart is on the right place. Hope I'm able to pay you back as soon as possible. And hopefully you learn something from this too, as how to run your stable and treat your players as human beings.
Peace,
Ivan