jchristo is pretty legit as well, so if he says "this is how it happened" i would tend to believe him.


weektight is also credible though, so would like to hear his side.



and, you are an idiot loldonkbetz. jchristo was just posting what he felt was a legit gripe with weektight (and if it went down as he has said, it def belongs in this thread) and jchristo is 100% legit/credible.

zhaorx - still owes a bunch of stakers money for this set. He shipped back 20% to everyone but still owes 80%. MIA - anyone know this guy? Nearly 7K posts ffs. http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/16...o-here-760337/

I just wanted to note that this person has sent half the money back as agreed. I won't go as far as openly recommending him but my instinct is that he has probably learned his lesson and would be a better stake in the future. Take that how you will

PokerStars: young_dfler
2+2: jewishstaker
Location: Watertown, US

Staked for 4s/180s mans. Gave results for a few weeks then vanished with $200. Phone number, address, id etc by request.

Name: Shawn Manesh
Email: gooseypoo@yahoo.com
Skype: gooseypoo
Full Tilt: goostoffmech
PokerStars: goostoffmech
2+2: goostoff
Location: clarksburg

Staked for 100NLHU,. lost stake due to variance. No problem, I sent more. Then vanished because of health reasons (probably legit to be honest), then lost some more, more makeup, then vanished due to family tragedy, then lost some more and finally vanished altogether with $1300 of the $2500 total he had.

As always I have made repeated efforts to contact him with no luck. The last thing I got from him was this.

So basically he walked on stake with my money, got another stake. Lost that stake and came back to me suggesting that it was me that needed to be a better backer!

Phone number, address, id, skype chats and any other proof of this guys total untrustworthness by request. In short, Do Not Stake.

Turns out this one was freerolling pizza on the stake:

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/62...s-loot-756096/

Just when I thought I had seen everything.

A quick update. This person has so far sent back $250, its coming slowly, but he seems to be making an effort to do the right thing.

just like to put up a stake I was running its was for 4nl and he played the stake for a few days and then decided to play 25nl HU and busted roll...

His Name is Aaron Kirsch, 22 years of age and lives in the Boston area

2+2 Name padmore_barnes http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/members/207480/

Stars: PadmoreBarne
FTP: wraplikexmas2
Gr88/Merge: wraplikexmas2
Skype: aaron.kirsch

Emails: aaronpkirsch@gmail.com, dominicsagona3@hotmail.com on MSN or aaronpkirsch@gmail.com

I think thats it

I intend to pay him back

will update as soon as he has

Neither have logged into 2p2 in a while so I'm not even going to bother with the PMs and read receipts.

Both banned

mods, I tried to format my post like everything else, please let me know if I did something wrong. anyway:

Name: Phillip Badiola
2+2: DieselPhil
Pokerstars: philbadi
FullTilt: DieselPhil
Action: Broke stake agreement, ran off early, stole 2.7k

Agreed on stake for 2,000 9mans $109 or lower. Played about 600 and was down 2.7k. Sends back the rest of the investment but refuses to finish out his stake when he agreed to a contract that stated the stake would not end until he had played 2,000 games or we decided it was over. He then gets extremely angry and acts immature ("THIS IS ****IN AMERICA I CAN QUIT WHEN I WANT"), so I tell him to send back whatever is left of the stake for the sake of saving any money left. I inform him that I am making his post and he gets furious, claims I am threatening him. PM for any AIM logs, forum of staking history you’d like. This guy is a total scumbag and incredibly emotional and immature. Do not stake no matter what.

Yes i didn't play 2000 games. but i never stole 2.7k. you staked me a total of 4k, I had 2.7k in make up, i gave you back 1.3k which makes 4k and i didn't want to play make up anymore. Get your facts right, soo calling me a theif saying i stole 2.7k is totally false. So i'm not a thief, in our agreement we agreed to 2000 games, then after the 2000 games a revision, but we never agreed that i couldn't quit the stake. On the agreement, it doesnt say, Horse can't quit the stake. In addition you backers are telling me that i have to pay my stake back, or pay the 2.7k back or else you are gonna bad mouth me soo no one stakes me again. WTF this is a STAKE, you took a risk in staking players, if they lose and want to quit, cause they dont wanna play poker anymore or don't want to make the make up back that's your fault for taking a risk on staking them. If everyone was required to play until they made the make-up back, then i would stake everyone in the world. Cause i have no risk of losing money. Then you tell me that i have to pay half my make-up back to you, to leave the stake. That's even more BS cause then it's not even a stake, its a LOAN. So go ahead bad mouth me all you want, but DONT EVER LIE and say im a THIEF. Cause i didn't steal your 2.7k, i LOST your 2.7k cause i was running bad, then decided to quit cause i didn't want to play make up. Cause i know im capable of making an upswing and when i do, i want it to be profit, not to be make up money. It is simply business, i was never told i couldn't quit the stake. You guys should of clarified I'm locked in by BLOOD to stay on the stake for 2000 games. What if life happens, am i locked in these 2000 games and cant get out. Then you go off threatening me, saying you have my personal information implying that you are going to do something unlawful. Honestly, i know i was running bad and if i played more i would of lost more, did you want me to piss another 4k down the drain and be forever in make up.

wow, that's ******ed

haha you should have said nothing instead it would have been better for you!

This is just silly. So u want the backer to take ur losses, but not have any action in ur winnings . If u ever want another stake again, I suggest u do everything in ur power to make ur backer happy. Yes, in these types of agreements, u r locked in to play the 2000 games unless there r extraordinary circumstances that don't allow u to. At this point, I don't think ur backer even wants u to complete the games because ur attitude is rediculous.

I don't mean to derail the thread and mods you can delete this post if it is a derail, but I feel I need to defend the reputation of me and my friends (especially the accusations of threatening):

"So i'm not a thief, in our agreement we agreed to 2000 games, then after the 2000 games a revision, but we never agreed that i couldn't quit the stake. On the agreement, it doesnt say, Horse can't quit the stake."

This was in the contract: "This stake will last 2000 games or until the Staker decides to end backing." You didn't complete 2000 games, and we didn't decide to end backing. Thus, you broke your agreement. Our agreement is what we invested $4,000 into. When you break that agreement and don't return every penny, you have stolen.


"WTF this is a STAKE, you took a risk in staking players, if they lose and want to quit, cause they dont wanna play poker anymore or don't want to make the make up back that's your fault for taking a risk on staking them. If everyone was required to play until they made the make-up back, then i would stake everyone in the world. Cause i have no risk of losing money."

Everyone is required to uphold their contract. There's still a risk you would have been down after 2,000 games, but that was a risk we were willing to take.


"[I]Then you go off threatening me, saying you have my personal information implying that you are going to do something unlawful./I]"

I never threatened you. Saying that is just completely false and proves that you are quite delusional. I only said I would be posting your name / accounts on forums to inform other backers not to stake you, but it appears you've already given them reason not to.

pretty sure its quite obv, but unblemished is 100% correct here.


a horse just cant quit when in make-up cause he wants to not be in amke-up anymore. thats the whole reason make-up is there. if a horse really is going to quit poker all together and get a real job and not play a hand, than he can leave when in MU (i guess...), but he still is in make-up to his backer and if he ever plays again he should give that backer first dibs.


you are 100% wrong dielselphil. you can maybe buyout (doubt you will) for around 50% (there is no real standard for buying out though).



your response shows how dumb you are though and how uninformed about staking you actually are. you cant just quit when in make-up cause you "want all the profits when you go on an upswing"


what would be the point of makeup, if you could just leave whenever you wanted?

Wow not only are you a scumbag thief Philip Badiola / Phillip Badiola, but you're an idiot too. The comment about wanting all the profit on an upswing because you just hit a downswing is absolutely ridiculous. You deserve to never be staked from anyone ever again. He should post more of your personal information so that future employers/friends of yours can see what a scumbag you are.

well i mean, scumbag is a little harsh, there's a pretty good chance he's just 12 years old or something and simply doesn't understand what's going on

Do other backers want this? I don't know what the 'standard' is for giving out bad horse's information. I guess people can PM me for more info if they have a blacklist type thing.

If you want info on anyone who has ever stolen from me you can have everything I have got. Thats my standard anyway.

I don't care if you say i won't get staked again. But to say i "STOLE" it, is wrong. I didn't steal anything, I have no money in my pocket from your stake. To give "PERSONAL INFORMATION" about me, through this forum is also wrong. Posting my full name on a forum, should not be allowed. I argue once again that i did not steal anything. I lost 2.7k and i gave you back the rest. Stealing is not what i did. I agree that i backed out of the agreement, regarding the 2000 games. However, the agreement is unclear, because it doesn't say i couldn't back out. In addition, i played a total of 997 games not 600, that you claimed i played. I agree that you are posting, to warn other backers not to back me, but to put MY FULL NAME, and to call me a THIEF, is wrong and derailing. I also told you i would play the other 1000 games, but you told me not to play anymore, cause I said that i would play a 1000 1 dollar sngs, which isn't against the terms of agreement. Because im staked for 109 dollar and below Regular speed Sngs. 1.20 dollar sngs fits this criteria, and you wouldn't let me play it.

2+2 weren't the only lucky ones sharing Dp's insights yesterday.

His first post, as Khemist of this ptp thread was deleted by a mod but the rest of the thread gets sadly funny.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/sh...postcount=2454

member name mboyle4999
username on UB: mikeboyle420

me and supernova_elite took a 50 game SNG package for $110 each, he contacted us everday when he was playing, on payday we have no heard from him since. He still regularly plays on UB about this time in the $5sng 6max. Been over 2weeks.

Me or Supernova_elite do not have a UB account which has done a despoit before so we can't chat to him. If anybody does have one, could they join one of his tables when he is on and ask him.


I do have his full name, address, and phone number. I am from the UK so I can't phone it.