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12-07-2014 , 08:21 PM
2p2: nthndlln
Stars: nthndlln
Skype: nathan.dillon24

http://nathandillonisathief.com/

Stole $4k. We continued staking him and added it to makeup, only to have him decide he was done with poker and would not repay the makeup he'd accumulated since then (but said he'd repay what he stole). We explained that was unacceptable and wanted the full ~$5k... can't reach him since.
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12-08-2014 , 12:25 PM
Name: David Ivers

2+2: my brim low

PokerStars - My Brim Low
FTP - My Brim Low
PartyPoker - MyBrimLow

hendonmob: http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=188173
e-mail: mybrimlow@yahoo.com
skype: mybrimlow
AIM: letsgetit8732
twitter: @MyBrimLow
location: Costa Rica

He sold us the package for the WSOP 2012. He did not play two WSOP events from this package and never pay back refunds for them. The total debt is $1250.

Last time I heard something from David was September 11, 2012! He wrote: "i am still pretty low on money. working on getting out of make up soon. sorry again for taking this long."
After that I tried to contact David with no answer for more than 2 years by e-mail, 2+2, pocketfives. One month ago I wrote him that I’m going to make the story public, but didn’t receive the answer as usual.

Here is the WSOP 2012 package, that we bought. David skipped events 56 and 59A.
40% @1.25 MU
June 2nd - Event #9A $1500 NL re-entry
June 3rd - Event #9B $1,500 NL re-entry
June 7th - Event #16 $1,500 NL 6-max
June 9th - Event #19 $1,500 NLH
June 16th - Event #31 $1,500 NLH
June 17th - Event #33 $1,000 NLH
June 20th - Event #38 $1,500 NLH
June 22nd -Event #41 $3,000 NLH
June 24th - Event #44 $1,000 NLH
June 25th - Event #46 $2,500 NLH
June 30th - Event #53 $1,500 NLH
July 2nd - Event #56 $1,500 NLH - SKIPPED
July 4th - Event #59A $1,000 NLH - SKIPPED
July 9th - Event #61C $10,000 Main Event

I hope this information helps other backers do not be deceived by David Ivers.

Last edited by PoFox; 12-08-2014 at 12:37 PM.
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12-09-2014 , 12:07 AM
Stars ID : arripinari

Dutch player, rolled for 500$.
Said he will pay back, yada yada yada scamd as usual.
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12-10-2014 , 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PoFox
Name: David Ivers

2+2: my brim low

PokerStars - My Brim Low
FTP - My Brim Low
PartyPoker - MyBrimLow

hendonmob: http://pokerdb.thehendonmob.com/player.php?a=r&n=188173
e-mail: mybrimlow@yahoo.com
skype: mybrimlow
AIM: letsgetit8732
twitter: @MyBrimLow
location: Costa Rica

He sold us the package for the WSOP 2012. He did not play two WSOP events from this package and never pay back refunds for them. The total debt is $1250.

Last time I heard something from David was September 11, 2012! He wrote: "i am still pretty low on money. working on getting out of make up soon. sorry again for taking this long."
After that I tried to contact David with no answer for more than 2 years by e-mail, 2+2, pocketfives. One month ago I wrote him that I’m going to make the story public, but didn’t receive the answer as usual.

Here is the WSOP 2012 package, that we bought. David skipped events 56 and 59A.
40% @1.25 MU
June 2nd - Event #9A $1500 NL re-entry
June 3rd - Event #9B $1,500 NL re-entry
June 7th - Event #16 $1,500 NL 6-max
June 9th - Event #19 $1,500 NLH
June 16th - Event #31 $1,500 NLH
June 17th - Event #33 $1,000 NLH
June 20th - Event #38 $1,500 NLH
June 22nd -Event #41 $3,000 NLH
June 24th - Event #44 $1,000 NLH
June 25th - Event #46 $2,500 NLH
June 30th - Event #53 $1,500 NLH
July 2nd - Event #56 $1,500 NLH - SKIPPED
July 4th - Event #59A $1,000 NLH - SKIPPED
July 9th - Event #61C $10,000 Main Event

I hope this information helps other backers do not be deceived by David Ivers.

let me explain my side of the story..

as for event #56 $1,500 NLH. i skipped this event because i accidentally played event #43 which is another $1,500 NLH because I thought that it was on my package. i obviously should of double checked to make sure and it was a mistake but the only tourneys I played in the Rio the entire summer were the ones on the package so i figured i would take the last $1,500 which was event #56 off the package and replace it with the $1,500 I played, which seems very reasonable and fair (again only tourneys I played at RIO entire summer were on the package) but maxkatz then says I wasnt allowed to do that and i need to pay the refund which is ridiculous because if i had won event #43 or even cashed i would of 100% paid them their part because i thought it was part of the package and was counting it towards the package the entire time.

as for event #59A...towards the end of the summer some maids stole money from me at my house i was renting with friends for the summer in the highly advertised "mini castles" (wouldnt recommend staying there for this reason). Unfortunately it was buy in money for said event plus my small life roll I had that was all in Vegas. I was pretty broke at the time so it was terrible timing and it had been a terrible summer so far poker wise already and this just made it completely miserable. I have several guys that were in the house that can vouch about the maids (Big Huni, Telks, Gettin Daize, KaptianKush) and also in the "mini castle" beside us (bazeman, pokerjamers, jacob naquin, david diaz, Tim Krank) im pretty sure they had stuff stolen by the maids as well. So basically after all this i had one last shot in the main event so i tried to focus just on that and eventually busted, so the whole summer was just a disaster and i left vegas right away. They did try contacting me a few times and i just blew it off because i didnt think i had to pay for event #56 and completely disagreed with the way they were handling the situation. I do agree that I owe them money and I would be willing to pay them if they would come to a reasonable decision but I think the debt should just be $500 and not $1,250 for obvious reasons. i dont think i should have to pay for event #56 because its quite obvious I was replacing it in the package and i think alot of players would agree with me, so i am willing to pay you guys back $500 but my stance still hasnt changed about the other $750 and definitely dont feel that is owed to you and when we can come to the agreement that its unfair to expect me to pay for the other event when the only tourneys I played there was from the package I will gladly pay you the $500 that is truly owed to you!
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12-10-2014 , 08:18 PM
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let me explain my side of the story..

as for event #56 $1,500 NLH. i skipped this event because i accidentally played event #43 which is another $1,500 NLH because I thought that it was on my package. i obviously should of double checked to make sure and it was a mistake but the only tourneys I played in the Rio the entire summer were the ones on the package so i figured i would take the last $1,500 which was event #56 off the package and replace it with the $1,500 I played, which seems very reasonable and fair (again only tourneys I played at RIO entire summer were on the package) but maxkatz then says I wasnt allowed to do that and i need to pay the refund which is ridiculous because if i had won event #43 or even cashed i would of 100% paid them their part because i thought it was part of the package and was counting it towards the package the entire time.

as for event #59A...towards the end of the summer some maids stole money from me at my house i was renting with friends for the summer in the highly advertised "mini castles" (wouldnt recommend staying there for this reason). Unfortunately it was buy in money for said event plus my small life roll I had that was all in Vegas. I was pretty broke at the time so it was terrible timing and it had been a terrible summer so far poker wise already and this just made it completely miserable. I have several guys that were in the house that can vouch about the maids (Big Huni, Telks, Gettin Daize, KaptianKush) and also in the "mini castle" beside us (bazeman, pokerjamers, jacob naquin, david diaz, Tim Krank) im pretty sure they had stuff stolen by the maids as well. So basically after all this i had one last shot in the main event so i tried to focus just on that and eventually busted, so the whole summer was just a disaster and i left vegas right away. They did try contacting me a few times and i just blew it off because i didnt think i had to pay for event #56 and completely disagreed with the way they were handling the situation. I do agree that I owe them money and I would be willing to pay them if they would come to a reasonable decision but I think the debt should just be $500 and not $1,250 for obvious reasons. i dont think i should have to pay for event #56 because its quite obvious I was replacing it in the package and i think alot of players would agree with me, so i am willing to pay you guys back $500 but my stance still hasnt changed about the other $750 and definitely dont feel that is owed to you and when we can come to the agreement that its unfair to expect me to pay for the other event when the only tourneys I played there was from the package I will gladly pay you the $500 that is truly owed to you!
If you agree you owe them $500 why has that amount not been paid long ago?
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12-10-2014 , 08:28 PM
because they wanted the full amount and i thought that was unfair so i just kept blowing it off and now they wanna make it public so im telling my side
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12-10-2014 , 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by muck aces
haha yes the jackstar guy is comedy gold , he has just opened another thread on the site offering to pay people the money owed by pizzicato WTF !! , what a dumba$$ , i bet pizzicato must be licking his lips at setting this guy up to take him for a load of $$$$ in the near future lol
Jack Starr was right.

http://pokermob.com/poker-forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=512

All monies repaid by Pizzicatoxev.
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12-11-2014 , 12:00 AM
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If you agree you owe them $500 why has that amount not been paid long ago?
Because hes a true and utter piece of garbage is why obviously. Holding some vendetta against these people when you know and agree you owe them 500$ for 2.5 years? what the hell is that? Id love to get on here and sell pieces to some small tourny series where i live to play some tournys but if i do i prolly wont sell enough because people like this guy, go out and hood people for 500$. I dont have a big poker resume, but id love to be able to come on here and sell off a bunch of a package to small tournament series here in ohio and play in it and have fun and give people a fun sweat for some money. But the market doesnt exist for that because the guys like this exist exploiting staking so they can just out and out rob people when things go badly so people who buy pieces have to account for that and it shuts me out. Its just a bummer
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12-11-2014 , 01:45 AM
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Originally Posted by my brim low
because they wanted the full amount and i thought that was unfair so i just kept blowing it off and now they wanna make it public so im telling my side
Well blowing it off wasn't very smart. And since you have no excuse for the $500 that looks pretty bad for obvious reasons. You should pay the $500 to them right now and figure out the $700 that you dispute after that. In regards to the $700, did you let investors know right away that you had accidentally played the wrong one and that you would like to have the other one swapped in as a result? Sounds like you just decided on your own that this would be fine. Just because the tourneys have the same buyin and are wsop events doesn't mean you can just switch it out, but I'm sure if you went to them right when you realized the mistake they would have worked with you, doesn't sound like you did that though. It was your mistake though so you do owe them though and you should have been more careful.
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12-11-2014 , 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TheTyman9
Well blowing it off wasn't very smart. And since you have no excuse for the $500 that looks pretty bad for obvious reasons. You should pay the $500 to them right now and figure out the $700 that you dispute after that. In regards to the $700, did you let investors know right away that you had accidentally played the wrong one and that you would like to have the other one swapped in as a result? Sounds like you just decided on your own that this would be fine. Just because the tourneys have the same buyin and are wsop events doesn't mean you can just switch it out, but I'm sure if you went to them right when you realized the mistake they would have worked with you, doesn't sound like you did that though. It was your mistake though so you do owe them though and you should have been more careful.

i didnt tell them right away because i didnt even know until 9 days later when that event #56 came up and i was $1,500 short so i went back and found my mistake which was when i told them and they werent having it. how does telling them right away make a difference? it was an honest mistake. its basically like saying if i had won the tournament i would get to keep all the money since it wasnt on the package and obv wouldnt be the case and you know it. they would have received their part of the money. i think 95/100 poker players would agree with me on this one
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12-11-2014 , 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Walter1
Because hes a true and utter piece of garbage is why obviously. Holding some vendetta against these people when you know and agree you owe them 500$ for 2.5 years? what the hell is that? Id love to get on here and sell pieces to some small tourny series where i live to play some tournys but if i do i prolly wont sell enough because people like this guy, go out and hood people for 500$. I dont have a big poker resume, but id love to be able to come on here and sell off a bunch of a package to small tournament series here in ohio and play in it and have fun and give people a fun sweat for some money. But the market doesnt exist for that because the guys like this exist exploiting staking so they can just out and out rob people when things go badly so people who buy pieces have to account for that and it shuts me out. Its just a bummer
yea i sold action to $30k worth of tournaments so i can steal $500. are you kidding me? i played all but 1 tournament on the package and that was because the money was stolen from me for that one. theres plenty of action sold on here. dont blame me for not being able to sell action to your $200 live tourney in ohio.
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12-11-2014 , 04:34 AM
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i didnt tell them right away because i didnt even know until 9 days later when that event #56 came up and i was $1,500 short so i went back and found my mistake which was when i told them and they werent having it. how does telling them right away make a difference? it was an honest mistake. its basically like saying if i had won the tournament i would get to keep all the money since it wasnt on the package and obv wouldnt be the case and you know it. they would have received their part of the money. i think 95/100 poker players would agree with me on this one
I meant right away when you found out obviously. You can't tell them before you realize it yourself. I do agree with you that as long as the event doesn't have anything special about it and it's just one of the many $1500s (not a monster stack type thing) than they should be willing to accept the mistake. It's kind of a tough situation because technically they did not buy action to that tourney so technically that tourney was played on your own money but you used their money to enter it. Your mistake put you in the spot to be freerolled. None of this affects the $500 though, and it's baffling that you thought it was okay to not pay what you agreed you owed them just because they thought you owed them an additional $700 for your event mistake. Just pay the $500 and then talk with some sort of arbitrator that can decide on the $700.
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12-11-2014 , 06:06 AM
so, investor invests in a strict schedule, and you dont play 2 of the mtts on the schedule and you dont think you owe them the full rebate? its been 2.5 years. i would assume if you just paid them 50 a month (which is totally reasonable) you would have this paid off by now (24 months at 50 a month is 1200!!!).

there are many ways to pay this back, you just dont want too.

i understand it sucks you had the money stolen (i had a few friends who had cash stolen by the maids), but that isnt your investors fault. they gave you the money to play the mtts on the schedule, you didnt, end of story.
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12-11-2014 , 07:59 AM
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Originally Posted by danuuutz
after posting this I found on a romanian forum 5 other stakers that where scammed by this guy....
Probably moot and irrelevant at this point, but for public record and confirmatiom of scumbaggery

http://forum.parttimepoker.com/appea...stigation.html
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12-11-2014 , 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by my brim low
yea i sold action to $30k worth of tournaments so i can steal $500. are you kidding me? i played all but 1 tournament on the package and that was because the money was stolen from me for that one. theres plenty of action sold on here. dont blame me for not being able to sell action to your $200 live tourney in ohio.
You decided to scam when you lost and things went poorly, its pretty obviously the case. i feel like you are being condescending which is hilarious given the circumstances.
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12-11-2014 , 06:10 PM
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let me explain my side of the story..

as for event #56 $1,500 NLH. i skipped this event because i accidentally played event #43 which is another $1,500 NLH because I thought that it was on my package. i obviously should of double checked to make sure and it was a mistake but the only tourneys I played in the Rio the entire summer were the ones on the package so i figured i would take the last $1,500 which was event #56 off the package and replace it with the $1,500 I played, which seems very reasonable and fair (again only tourneys I played at RIO entire summer were on the package) but maxkatz then says I wasnt allowed to do that and i need to pay the refund which is ridiculous because if i had won event #43 or even cashed i would of 100% paid them their part because i thought it was part of the package and was counting it towards the package the entire time.

as for event #59A...towards the end of the summer some maids stole money from me at my house i was renting with friends for the summer in the highly advertised "mini castles" (wouldnt recommend staying there for this reason). Unfortunately it was buy in money for said event plus my small life roll I had that was all in Vegas. I was pretty broke at the time so it was terrible timing and it had been a terrible summer so far poker wise already and this just made it completely miserable. I have several guys that were in the house that can vouch about the maids (Big Huni, Telks, Gettin Daize, KaptianKush) and also in the "mini castle" beside us (bazeman, pokerjamers, jacob naquin, david diaz, Tim Krank) im pretty sure they had stuff stolen by the maids as well. So basically after all this i had one last shot in the main event so i tried to focus just on that and eventually busted, so the whole summer was just a disaster and i left vegas right away. They did try contacting me a few times and i just blew it off because i didnt think i had to pay for event #56 and completely disagreed with the way they were handling the situation. I do agree that I owe them money and I would be willing to pay them if they would come to a reasonable decision but I think the debt should just be $500 and not $1,250 for obvious reasons. i dont think i should have to pay for event #56 because its quite obvious I was replacing it in the package and i think alot of players would agree with me, so i am willing to pay you guys back $500 but my stance still hasnt changed about the other $750 and definitely dont feel that is owed to you and when we can come to the agreement that its unfair to expect me to pay for the other event when the only tourneys I played there was from the package I will gladly pay you the $500 that is truly owed to you!
Oh, finally I've got an answer more then two years after!

About event 56:

If you play an event and do not inform me before you play it that I have a share, I have no way and no reason to take a share from your winnings in case you win something. 

Even if you have our money, you can't play an event and after you busted to say "ah, yes, you had a share”. If you wrote before event 43: "I'm changing event 56 to event 43", and the buy in is the same — this is ok. Otherwise we can't consider this as our bet.

So you did a mistake. I understand, that everybody makes mistakes occasionally. But I don’t understand, why I or anyone else except you must pay for your mistake? I will never accept it.

You owe us $1250.
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12-11-2014 , 06:55 PM
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Well blowing it off wasn't very smart. And since you have no excuse for the $500 that looks pretty bad for obvious reasons. You should pay the $500 to them right now and figure out the $700 that you dispute after that. In regards to the $700, did you let investors know right away that you had accidentally played the wrong one and that you would like to have the other one swapped in as a result? Sounds like you just decided on your own that this would be fine. Just because the tourneys have the same buyin and are wsop events doesn't mean you can just switch it out, but I'm sure if you went to them right when you realized the mistake they would have worked with you, doesn't sound like you did that though. It was your mistake though so you do owe them though and you should have been more careful.

Tyler seems to have a firm grasp on reality. Two thumbs up for the Tyman.
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12-13-2014 , 07:34 AM
I was hacked last night and bank acc emptied using stars transfers by a member on this site,whom is also trying to sell BTC here.
Can I name this thieving **** here?

thommehh


oops I have all the proof needed to back this claim.
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12-13-2014 , 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by aussiemagic
I was hacked last night and bank acc emptied using stars transfers by a member on this site,whom is also trying to sell BTC here.
Can I name this thieving **** here?

thommehh


oops I have all the proof needed to back this claim.
Please post your evidence ASAP.
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12-14-2014 , 07:57 AM
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Please post your evidence ASAP.
Obv stars has frozen my acc while investigations take place.I will upload screenshots when I can to support this..Here is email from security@stars.com,will have to do till this is finalised....

Hello Jason,

Thank you for your email.

We regret to hear that someone has accessed your account without your authorization. We have frozen it while we investigate, and we apologize for any inconvenience this may cause. However, we take these matters very seriously and therefore an immediate restriction or temporary closure is required as a precautionary measure to prevent further unauthorized access.

We have attached a copy of your playing and credit audit and ask you to review this and let us know of the unauthorized activities on your account.

In addition, to help us with our investigation, we would appreciate it if you could answer the following questions:

1. How many computers do you normally use to access and play on your PokerStars account?
2. What is your telephone contact number in case we need to contact to verify further information regarding this matter? Which languages can we call you in?
3. Do you have other family members or other people living with you that may have access to your computer?
4. Do you normally leave the "remember password" feature on? If so, on which computer?
5. If provided to a third party, please confirm who you have provided your password to.
6. Have you scanned your computer(s) to confirm that you have no viruses, keyloggers or spyware? Please confirm if any virus was detected.
7. What was the last known balance on your account prior to the unauthorized activities?
8. Do you normally leave your account logged in?
9. What is your relation to the following players on our site:

Thommehh
GringoGT1
maxmalmsteen
AraiFernando


We would appreciate it if you could respond to the above queries and provide as much information as possible regarding your account, so that we can thoroughly investigate the matter.

We look forward to your response.

Regards,

Pedro
PokerStars Security Team
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12-14-2014 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by aussiemagic
I was hacked last night and bank acc emptied using stars transfers by a member on this site,whom is also trying to sell BTC here.
Can I name this thieving **** here?

thommehh


oops I have all the proof needed to back this claim.
You don't have proof that I did it, in fact you can never prove that because I didn't hack your account. Also you posted this on another forum which I heard from a friend.

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any info on the above maggot would be muchly appreciated
Stop accusing me before you know the full story, I could get angry now but I won't....

I sold 0.875 BTC from a guy on bitcointalk.org for Pokerstars $, as I do a lot, I have traded multiple tens of thousands of dollars on there and I could steal thousands of dollars in a lot of trades, but I'm not like that.

In fact I have been hacked too earlier this year, lost over $7000 in the progress.

Will post proofs below later.

Wow... just tried to login at stars to play some sunday MTT's and my account got blocked. NICE JOB DIP**** TO LET STARS FREEZE MY ACCOUNT
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12-14-2014 , 04:07 PM
Ok full story here:

Got contacted by a guy on bitcointalk, a site where I do a lot of trades with Bitcoin/Pokerstars/Neteller etc.

I have traded over multiple tens of thousands of dollars there and I have a good reputation, because of this I could scam a lot of people for a lot of money, I'm not like that because it also happened to me this year as I already said.

My username on bitcointalk.org is hodlmybtc
My reputation thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=526624.0
My trust page: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=262745

User who contacted me was cmacmaBTC: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?ac...ofile;u=398708

I've left him negative trust after what I heard today:


I had a thread in the Currency exchange section there to sell some BTC as I needed funds on Pokerstars: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=887836

He replied first to ask me my Skype

The rest of our conversation history:











Hope this clears things up and if someone from Pokerstars reads this please unfreeze my account, I have a hard time to get my milestone bonus this year and I definately won't make it if my account is frozen (doh).

AND PLEASE STOP ACCUSING PEOPLE BEFORE KNOWING THE WHOLE ****** STORY
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12-14-2014 , 04:49 PM
Thom is my backer/friend and I am totally sure he would never do anything like that. I know he has done many swaps with mid/highstakes 18s regs and he never had problems.

He also did currency exchanges without problems before.

pretty rude to deal with one of your loyal costumers this way without any proof / sending him an email to explain.

Hope it will all be solved soon
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12-14-2014 , 05:00 PM
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Thom is my backer/friend and I am totally sure he would never do anything like that. I know he has done many swaps with mid/highstakes 18s regs and he never had problems.

He also did currency exchanges without problems before.

pretty rude to deal with one of your loyal costumers this way without any proof / sending him an email to explain.

Hope it will all be solved soon
Thanks mate, you're the best!

Proof of me sending 0.875 BTC to the hacker:

https://blockchain.info/nl/tx/9a98e2...05be2d9f11d1fa

The hackers bitcoin address he used for this is: https://blockchain.info/nl/address/1...CUMdqjW71gXBKf

He probably won't use that anymore after this, maybe you can find more information about the hacker by tracking his transactions in the public blockchain but that's not up to me, I'm just giving the details for anyone who is interested.
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12-14-2014 , 07:48 PM
Yeah I don't believe this one bit either! I am a SnG mid to high stakes reg as referred to by HappyfoldICM and Thom wouldn't do this... Especially for a lousy 326$.... He is a solid winning mid stakes grinder and hard working.

This is ridiculous.
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