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Originally Posted by chahor69
Just told Muntean about this post and he promptly removed me from Skype stating this
[03:13:42 p.m.] Charles Horrocks: hi muntean
[03:14:04 p.m.] Charles Horrocks: uv made no attempt to pay me back that 1k
[03:14:23 p.m.] Charles Horrocks: im calling you out on 2+2
[03:14:45 p.m.] Charles Horrocks: ill take it down wen u start making repayments
[03:15:03 p.m.] muntean claudiu: if you do that i will never give the loan
[03:15:10 p.m.] muntean claudiu: ever
[03:15:22 p.m.] Charles Horrocks: its already done
It would be helpful if you post a picture and his personal information. I am sick and tired of these no good kids ruining the reputation of romanian players. Just post the pic and make a short blog page with their info so that they will be found when performing a google search.
Regarding the dispute between stakee and stable: I have a few things to say:
1. There is a contract involved. Most contracts are in favour of the stakee. If you do not agree with the terms of the contract then do not sign it.
2. If a stable offers you a 70-30 or whatever split(with the condition that you play a certain volume) it stands to reason that if you do not abide to that condition you are in fact breaking the terms of the agreement and are liable for make-up and negative feedback posted.
There are a few reasons for this: the stable invests not just in the bankroll, but also in materials, coachings, sweat sessions and alot of resources for the player to reach his potential. When doing these investments the stable is doing this with the player's assurance that he will put in the work and improve his game so he can bring larger profit to him and to the stable.
3. Make up is a must. I as a staker work for the money I invest in people. If a player doesn't pay back what is agreed upon in the contract he agreed and signed then it's my right as a backer to out him and protect other stakers.
4. This is a business and in such an environment mistakes are payed. So if a player makes mistakes and does nothing to fix them, he should pay(it was his choice to get involved in this). If a stable/backer does not treat a player abiding the rules of the contract then they should be punished(even though by treating players badly he will loose his stable eventually).
Now there are countless situations where the rules get bended in favour of the backer or the player(most of the times in favour of the player). Let me just illustrate some of the ones I've been confronted with:
- the player is sick and can't play his agreed volume(no problem, get your health back, concentrate on that atm)
- the player is on vacation, he does not play his volume, is in mu(no problem, have fun, get back at it after that)
-the backer is on vacation and cannot be contacted for a week or so(no one gives updates, no one plays volume)
- the backer does not want to reload a player that lost all the br due to bad play, not keeping a stoploss, etc(the player deletes him from his skype list and thinks he can start over without problems).
- the backer stops staking a player due to bad conduit, suspected chipdumping, etc.(the player outs the backers for not respecting him).
Now these are all inclined to mistakes made by the players. I do not belive they are the only ones who make them.
PS: The major mistake I've seen so far on this thread is lending money for life expenses. Those money will be gone. Imo if the player wants money for expenses... he should play more and generate them.