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Originally Posted by Zalbaac
Nathan Douglas Anderson Scammed me for ~ $16,000. I was staking him for low-mid stakes MTT’s on Stars, Fulltilt, and UB/AP.
Everything was fine for the first couple months of the staking arrangement. We had one successful profit chop. As I later found out, he began illegitimate usage of my funds shortly after that. This included playing and losing at high stakes cash (which was totally outside of our agreement) as well as simply cashing out money from the stake and asking for additional refills.
After he had an extended losing period, I examined his OPR stats closely, as I should have been all along, and noticed a $16,000 dollar discrepancy between the online stats and our “official” records. I requested a complete activity and transaction audit from pokerstars, and found that $11,000 dollars had been lost or stolen illegitimately. At this point, I didn’t have working passwords for the other sites, but I assume that they would account for the rest of the discrepancy.
I’m in the early stages of taking legal action against him. If anyone has any advice along these lines it would be greatly, greatly appreciated.
I’ve noticed that he is playing MTT’s again, and it is likely that another 2+2er is the backer. PM me for more details.
Screen names:
Pokerstars: Cameron__azy (two underscores)
Full Tilt: oilmoney13
From: Rochester, Minnesota
I'm embarrassed to admit, but I also got scammed by Nathan Anderson. Sometimes I allow a first impression to override rational thought and not do a full background check. I started backing NA in October which is why I'm embarrassed.
Nathan was more appreciative and accepting of advice than any player that I've every backed. It got to the point to which his positive attitude was getting on my nerves (hard to explain). Now I see it was just a front.
We had a successful arrangement w/out any problems through March/April. It was at that point that I started to worry about things, but it had nothing to do w/ character. He was doing well online and shipped a Venetian tournament playing for me. I met his mom, grandma and an aunt.
yada, yada, yada
His dedication toward grinding went down following the tournament went and he accrued make-up of close to 8k. I watch over my players closely and his losses seemed legitimate then and now.
It was when summer came around that problems started to arose. I gave him monies to play Venetian's and was instructed to show me all the receipts for each tournament played. We made a verbal agreement that he must continue to play for me during and after the summer even if still in make up and I would let him have 25% of his winnings from that point forward as payment to him and the remainder would go to makeup.
He played hard from what we talked about on the phone, texts, updates, etc.. and then out of nowhere said that he had lost the remaining funds in his Stars account trying to make rent and had since left town. That was for 1,200. And he had used the remainder of the money for live tournaments to buy food for his kids which he said was a couple hundred bucks.
However, according to the tournaments that he had texted me that he had played he should've had 500 left. He also didn't supply me w/ the receipts and didn't comment on them while we were trading emails. He very well could've played less than what he'd said and pocketed the money.
So, I basically got scammed for 1,800 and he walked away 12k in makeup. I never would have let him play live tournaments (that was the agreement we had) if I was to be potentially put in that position and as a result lost 3,400 more since he backed out of the arrangement and stole from me to boot.
I still made money on the deal, but I'm hurt that he used me in this way and especially w/ how he gained my trust through the use of his family and his overly-used efforts to make me feel comfortable and put more trust in him.
In an email that he wrote to me, he said he took the remaining money and isn't sorry for it because it's not like I would take responsibility for my part of the taxes. I never said than and responded that if I hadn't been stolen from and walked out w/ 12k in makeup that only got to that size because of the agreement we had, I'd be more than happy to take responsibility for my share. I assume that's exactly what he wanted to hear, but what else am I supposed to say. He walked away w/ over 18k and I got about 3k in the end.
