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06-07-2022 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by rickroll
what does this mean? there's a few different ways to interpret this
The player paid everything he owed
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06-10-2022 , 10:37 AM
Name: Lucas Leonardo Vera Lopez
Pokerstars: GmEspigon
Betkings: bet!AllinMTF
GGPoker: Chamigo
Pokerkings: Ibetyoufoldthx
Winamax: Chamigo
Adress: Corrientes / Argentina
Twitter: https://twitter.com/LucasLeonardoV2
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lucasleonardoveralopez/
Email: lucasleonardoveralopez@gmail.com
Discord: NippurDeLagash#3245



We started working with Lucas Leonardo Vera Lopez on June 28, 2021.

Everything went relatively smoothly - apart from some isolated incidents where he transferred money to other accounts without permission of anyone on the team - until Lucas Leonardo Vera Lopez faced his first downswing.

Over the last few months Lucas Leonardo Vera Lopez kept reducing his volume and communication until he disappeared completely and now no longer responds to messages.

During the last few months he also increasingly started playing games he wasn't supposed to.

We strongly discourage anyone from working with Lucas Leonardo Vera Lopez.
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06-11-2022 , 11:24 AM
Hello ,

I find this thread unethical due to the lack of business morals of these staking stables

Let me explain to you this :

People who need a stake are desperate (and having some life issues vast majority of time) , some of them are doing okay , others are not .

Making money on desperate people and then putting out these stories of desperate people not paying what they own and putting their faces out is laughable . When it comes down to lending money to idiots for gambling .

Anyone reasonable European person would make 1599 bucks at a warehouse job and live at his grandmother and take it from there .

Not get himself to a bad deal with some staking group .

StandardBacking my personal wish is you guys get scammed more often !
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06-12-2022 , 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Kiljusieppo
Hello ,

People who need a stake are desperate (and having some life issues vast majority of time) , some of them are doing okay , others are not .
Do ya think
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06-12-2022 , 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Poker_Orifice
Do ya think
You changed your post after realized it probably is that way.

If you lend money to someone for gambling and do some background checks , ensure it kind of make sense what he is about to do (which I'm sure most stakers do) - then still ending up getting their money stolen at a frequent ratio (so often that they need a thread to complain about it . What does this mean is their customer base is corrupted by default because lending money for gambling is by default silly / grey area . They give money to people who have issues and they know it and then they make this toxic thread to complain , post personal info etc. which I find a bit ridiculous .

Anyone would play with their own money if they could do so for very obvious reasons.
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06-20-2022 , 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Missing Mitroi Marian Alexandru

Pokerstars ID MMAlex09 (Romania)

Skype: live:mitroi1110

email: 1vincent080990@gmail.com (email for his Skrill account as well)


About once a year we have a player just take the bankroll and vanish, and I guess we got this out of the way early in 2019.

This human vanished shortly after receiving the starter bankroll, with the only message being that he was going to the following live event (first we heard of it)

Banco Casino Masters 100,000€ GTD
Public
· Hosted by Banco Casino Bratislava

Perhaps the artificially low starter bankroll of a couple hundred bucks went into that, or the pits, or booze/drugs, or who knows. We are posting this so that other backers avoid the similar situation with this human.

He has not replied to emails or skypes (he has not even read the skypes), and we do not expect that to change in the future.
He uses ID and Stars account of Beidaut Stefania
email: beidaut@gmail.com
skype: live:.cid.e8bffdcdbd2feba4

Beidaut came to our pool in January 2022. We noticed the name Marian Alexandru during passing reports, searched it here and found information about scam
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06-25-2022 , 06:49 AM
In May 2022 I staked a player, “Arsen Lisak”, for a total of $2000, playing NL50 Zoom on PokerStars. I now believe it to be the same person as in this earlier post #4613:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=4614

-due to the identical name.

My stakee claimed to be from Czech Republic, as opposed to Romania. But I have some reason to doubt this since he appeared vague when I mentioned Prague, and one email he sent contained some Cyrillic characters.

Plays as Hlubocinka on PokerStars.

Email: arsenliscz@gmail.com
Skype: live:.cid.83d58e4a445ce70f

It’s now clear that the player provided manipulated HH files to overstate his losses, in order to justify topups.* Following massive losses after the second top up (in just a few days) I looked more closely at the HH files and saw a number of big losing pots had happened multiple times.

One example:



I do not know how much, if at all, he actually played. He rarely made himself available to speak on Skype except in the early hours of the morning when I was asleep, and was generally evasive following the first top-up. I finally ended the staking when he refused to share his screen, after many requests, so I could look at his PokerStars cashier history or otherwise investigate exactly what was going on.

* (I think he likely provided overstated win graphs/hand histories initially, to induce me to stake him, since I later discovered duplicate hands in the initial hand sample).
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06-27-2022 , 10:42 AM
Name: Thomas Lawrence
Screennames:
PokerStars: 88pro88
GG: 88PRO
888: 8888PRO
iPoker: 8888PRO8

In December of 2020, Tommy chose to part ways, returned COH, and we set up a repayment plan for a minimum of $100/month until he got back on his feet. The total amount to be repaid was $10,167.

Tommy followed this plan for the first five monthly payments. He then cited health and financial troubles and asked to put off the payments for a couple of months, we agreed. We didn't hear from Tommy for four months, and during this time, he profited online.

Tommy then restarted payment in January, February, and March of 2022. On April 11th, 2022, he asked for a 30-day extension, which we granted. We have not heard back since April 11th after multiple attempts to contact him.

Tommy owes us $9,367.

Keywords: 88pro88
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06-27-2022 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by msusyr24-new
Craig apologized and is accepting adding the stolen amount to makeup and resuming at lower stakes.
After giving Craig a second chance, he's gone missing again. We have reached out to Craig multiple times and have received no response for several weeks.

He owes us $32,059.

Keywords: craigaces21
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06-28-2022 , 03:17 PM
Name: Renato Vazquez
Pokerstars: legnava
Betkings: Mr_otaner
Address: Mexico City / Mexico
Email: ravg000@hotmail.com
Discord: Rengam#8242



We have been working with Renato Vazquez since 23 October 2021. Everything went smoothly until the end of March 2022.

After a few days without any communication (with us trying to contact him) Renato Vazquez informed us via email that his current situation was that he was facing a personal problem in the family.

After being repeatedly asked to send audits, Renato decided to tell us that he spent all the money that was in his account playing at the casino. After agreeing to make a payment plan, Renato did not fulfill the agreement and didnt answer me anymore.

Renato Vazquez owes us $1,750
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06-28-2022 , 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim64
In May 2022 I staked a player, “Arsen Lisak”, for a total of $2000, playing NL50 Zoom on PokerStars. I now believe it to be the same person as in this earlier post #4613:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...postcount=4614

-due to the identical name.

My stakee claimed to be from Czech Republic, as opposed to Romania. But I have some reason to doubt this since he appeared vague when I mentioned Prague, and one email he sent contained some Cyrillic characters.

Plays as Hlubocinka on PokerStars.

Email: arsenliscz@gmail.com
Skype: live:.cid.83d58e4a445ce70f

It’s now clear that the player provided manipulated HH files to overstate his losses, in order to justify topups.* Following massive losses after the second top up (in just a few days) I looked more closely at the HH files and saw a number of big losing pots had happened multiple times.

One example:



I do not know how much, if at all, he actually played. He rarely made himself available to speak on Skype except in the early hours of the morning when I was asleep, and was generally evasive following the first top-up. I finally ended the staking when he refused to share his screen, after many requests, so I could look at his PokerStars cashier history or otherwise investigate exactly what was going on.

* (I think he likely provided overstated win graphs/hand histories initially, to induce me to stake him, since I later discovered duplicate hands in the initial hand sample).
i've run into something similar, also romanian, told me he needed a topup and sent hh that was mostly doubles, when removing doubles it went from losing 1.2k to losing 400 - he insists he lost 1.2k and it's a bad database, but obviously not topping up until we get clean hh and preparing to report him here and elsewhere if he doesn't produce the clean hh from stars directly showing it's indeed a bad database issue
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07-07-2022 , 10:25 AM
Nicknames: Pokerstars.eu / Champ3001; Pokerstars.es / KurtisKush4; PartyPoker / Champ3001.
WhatsApp: +491749347300
e-mail: tobias.schaaf@me.com
Full name: Tobias Thomas Schaaf

Debt amount: 24292 Euros

TokenStars Group Limited and Tobias Schaaf signed a staking agreement on the 6th of March 2019.
As of 28.06.2022, Tobias Schaaf's makeup is 24292 euros.

As per the agreement, Tobias has to repay 75% of the makeup and pay any other amounts due to TokenStars (Clause 10.2.2) to terminate the agreement.
On May 8th, 2020 TokenStars sent Tobias 10,000 Euro to participate in poker tournaments. 6297 euros of 10,000 euros were frozen on Skrill and since then Tobias claims that they are still frozen (on Skrill, then on PokerStars, then on Bank). Though Tobias never showed any proof of this amount being blocked.

On the 27th of January Tobias and TokenStars agreed that Tobias have to repay 15,000 Euro to terminate the agreement. Even though the payment had to be transferred in 45 days Tobias never came back to it and ignored most of the notifications.

Please see the agreements attached

Staking Agreement
Annex
Annex 3
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07-08-2022 , 06:19 AM
**Miguel Marin**

Bucaramanga, Colombia
Winamax nickname: BurnUrCosmo
GG nickname: BurnUrCosmo
Discord: BurnUrCosmo (Miguel)#9475
E-mail: endboss67@gmail.com

Disappeared and didn't provide report to the pool
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07-11-2022 , 08:36 AM
**Laszlo Mester**

Hungary
Natural8 nickname: The Tyr
Discord: Tyr The One#6223
E-mail: mesterl911@gmail.com


Disappeared and didn't provide report to the pool
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07-13-2022 , 01:59 PM
Name: Dumitrascu Renaldo Costinel
Pokerstars: Renalikes
888: renalikEe
WPN: jasoN93/Dazzle93
Adress: Romania
Email: renalikee@gmail.com / dumitrascure1993@gmail.com
Skype: floyd.pink93
Discord: renalikes#8423



We started working with Dumitrascu Renaldo Costinel in February 2017.

We made a loan to Dumitrascu Renaldo Costinel that was separate from our backing deal. Renaldo created a payment plan but has yet to make a single payment after over a year.

Renaldo continues to play poker and most recently won $14.3k, we reached out to him about settling up the existing loan. He ignored us.

Dumitrascu Renaldo Costinel owes us $3.5k (and growing).
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07-14-2022 , 07:22 PM
Name: Ludovico Genna
Pokerstars.com: jiiarobei
Pokerstars.it: jiiarobei
GGpoker: Peculiar45
Location: Italy, Trapani
Email: Gennaludovico@gmail.com
Discord: jiiarobei#4323

We staked Ludovico for 10 months, gave him charts, videos, coaching etc, he was doing well in the start, moving up in stakes, but didn't listen much to our advice when it came to table selection, number of tables etc, and his win rate started to decline a lot. Being now 6.5k€ in make up, he decided he didn't want to play Short Deck anymore, and wanted to go back to no limit, even though the contract specifically said that he could not quite while in make up, unless he paid the makeup back. He didn't want to hear of it, and started grinding NLHE on his own, saying that he was done with Short Deck, and did not have the money to pay us back. In the end, he paid back what we had in his accounts, and just left our group without a goodbye, leaving 3.8k€ still open.

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07-14-2022 , 07:47 PM
Name: Silviu George Vintila
Pokerstars.com: NorocDeRoman
Location: Romania, Tecuci
Email/skrill: george.vsg9393@gmail.com
Discord: Vsg#5498

We staked George for less than one month from late February to mid March, before he told us he was driving down and taking the ferry to Malta for relocation. He had up to this point been incredibly active, talkative, and promising. But he ghosted us, and we never heard from him again. He had 500$ in the account that belonged to us that we never saw again. Shortly after, we saw on Sharkscope, that he was playing tournaments (we staked him for short deck cash games).

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07-26-2022 , 08:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by d0zer
Name : Samuel Lee Horlock
Country : UK
Stars : shorlock100
Skype : spamuo
E-mail : sam_horlock@hotmail.com
Stole : $150

Samuel lost the initial bankroll while playing above agreed upon limits, gave a promise of paying it back and has stopped responding since
this debt has been repaid
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07-31-2022 , 06:49 PM
Name: Callum Scott
Pokerstars: cpokerstar92
Party: Mys7iK7792
Pokerking / ACR: Mys7iK / Mys7ik77
Betkings: Mys7iK
GG.uk: chronic
888 - mys7ic
Adress Address: Blyth / United Kingdom
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_cjs92/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/_cjs92
Email : cjspkr92@hotmail.co.uk / cjspartypoker@gmail.com
Discord: Mys7iK#9809



We have been working with Callum Scott since November, 2021.

Last month the Callum Scott informed us that he had his email and the accounts linked to that email hacked and the funds stolen from the accounts.

Upon reviewing Callum Scott's story and the information provided it we became skeptical that a hack had actually occurred.

Callum Scott promised us to start pay us back. However, we noticed that there was significant amounts of games played on his Pokerstars account. When asked about the play on his pokerstars account he claims:

Quote:
i dont have access to stars, a guy couldn't get on stars so for him to help me out money wise he wanted to use my account.
Callum Scott owes us $6.9k
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08-07-2022 , 09:47 AM
Spotted player at the tables today. Sharkscope search also showed he has been back playing for over a month (obviously he had not reached out to me at all).


Name: JohnPaul O'Donnel

City: Glasgow/UK or near Glasgow (I assume, at least he is active in the Celtic Glasgow scene)

Email: jpod25@live.co.uk


Screennames:
Stars - Murdoch25
888 - Hawdoan
WPN - jpod1888
Party - Murdoch1983

If there is anything to update, I will do so.

Amount owed: $891 (at this point I see full MU owed approbiate)



Quote:
Originally Posted by ICrushSNGs22
Pokerstars - Murdoch25

I may or may not add more info in the future.

I staked the player for about 8 months without any problems.

One day to the other he disappeared without any notice. 1 months later, I got an email by him stating he needed time off due to gambling/alcohol issues. Wheter the funds went to these issues or not is still unknown to me. We had a chat on Discord after his email and he played a few tourneys after, but has gone completely MIA again since (about 1 month now) and also has not played since. I did not worry about the funds at the time and still have hope it resolves eventually due to high reliability before that point, but this post is to warn potential backers if I am wrong and if he may seek staking somewhere else (which is not impossible obviously).

Amount owed, if so, is $891 (total MU), of which $485 were in accounts as of last update.
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08-07-2022 , 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by StandardBacking
Name: Callum Scott
Pokerstars: cpokerstar92
Party: Mys7iK7792
Pokerking / ACR: Mys7iK / Mys7ik77
Betkings: Mys7iK
GG.uk: chronic
888 - mys7ic
Adress Address: Blyth / United Kingdom
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_cjs92/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/_cjs92
Email : cjspkr92@hotmail.co.uk / cjspartypoker@gmail.com
Discord: Mys7iK#9809



We have been working with Callum Scott since November, 2021.

Last month the Callum Scott informed us that he had his email and the accounts linked to that email hacked and the funds stolen from the accounts.

Upon reviewing Callum Scott's story and the information provided it we became skeptical that a hack had actually occurred.

Callum Scott promised us to start pay us back. However, we noticed that there was significant amounts of games played on his Pokerstars account. When asked about the play on his pokerstars account he claims:



Callum Scott owes us $6.9k
We have been staking Callum since July 10th, 2022. With the above and seeing that Callum did not truthfully explain the activity on his Pokerstars account, we decided to part ways with him. It's worth noting that he did send us all funds in accounts when we informed him of this. He currently owes us $1,906.05, which is accumulated makeup that cannot be recovered due to breaching our agreement regarding truthfully divulging prior staking arrangements and debts owed.
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08-15-2022 , 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by valamichill
Name: Miska Jokikokko
Country: Finland
Skype: live:jokikokkomiska
email: jokikokkomiska@gmail.com
Pokerstars: PXL1337
Owes: 180$

He lost 180$ and left without message, no answer to anything.
This issue got settled by him.
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08-20-2022 , 10:23 AM
Steve Wilson

Michigan USA
stevewilson1987@yahoo.com
https://www.facebook.com/schilling.boston29
Screen Names:
WPN - Th3Wiz4rd
Stars Michigan - CashoutCurt87
BetMGM Michigan - sportfreak25
Global - sportfreak26

Imawhale backed Steve for online MTTs from September 2021 through July 2022. During that time, we backed Steve for a live event. We gave him enough cash to fire multiple bullets. He didn't end up using the cash to play the tournaments, but when he returned home from the casino the money was all gone. He told us his "hot water tank broke" while he was at the casino and he had to spend our money for an emergency repair. Obviously this was a huge red flag, but he was a winning player and agreed to pay back the funds over time out of future profits. To his credit, he did ultimately get those funds repaid. Then in July, we found him playing PLO cash with our stake funds. This was at the end of a big downswing. It's unclear how often this happened, how much he won/lost playing PLO instead of MTTs, etc. We decided to end the stake once and for all at that time. Despite being deep in makeup, Steve wanted to keep the profits from his last PLO session for himself. We agreed to this just so we could get the rest of our funds back and be done with him. He started site withdrawals and returned a portion of our funds, but then more "family expenses" came up and he kept the rest of our money and has ghosted us since.

Sad to see, the guy has the ability to win in poker, but absolutely can not be trusted. Avoid any type of financial transaction with him.


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08-22-2022 , 08:31 PM
I have to acknowledge my mistake earlier when claiming Standar backing got my email address illegitimately because aparently when I seeked staking with them back 5 or 6 years ago I consented for them to send me emails.

That said, in order to prove that with an admin and get my post removed, they sent him an screenshot of my application that includes sensitive private information such as my full name, location, email address, list of sites where I play and my screenames, etc.

I'd advise everyone to be careful as your personal information might not be safe with them after you apply

keywords: standard backing shares sensitive personal private information
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08-22-2022 , 09:31 PM
Name: Joao Victor Albino Gomes da Silva
PS= kbeloo
GG= HollyweeD
Party= nobodyride4free

Social Media
https://www.facebook.com/joaovictorak
https://instagram.com/jjaumvictor?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=


Joao joined the team on july 2019, making a commitment to follow our norms, specially monthly game volume and to not leave the team while in debt (MakeUp).
Since january 2021 he basically stopped abiding by his commitment. He averaged 115 monthly games for that year and in no month reached the agreed volume of 300 games. Furthermore his administrative tasks were always below expected for a professional poker player.
Player completely uncommitted. We made several calls trying to bring him back into commiting with the team with no success.
Recently the player said it was best for him to leave the team as he would not be able to honor the agreed upon requisites. He left all the team chats and left us hanging with his makeup. He also blocked his sharkscope.
Joao owes us U$67.5K at current exchange rate.

Joao Victor entrou no time no dia 29/07 de 2019, se comprometeu a cumprir com as determinações do time, principalmente números de jogos mensal e não sair do time por opção própria estando com MU negativo.
Desde de janeiro de 2021 ele praticamente parou de cumprir os compromissos. A media de jogos que ele fez no ano foi de 115 jogos / mês, não tendo 1 mês sequer aproximado dos 300 jogos contratados. Além disso a parte administrativa dele com o time, era bem abaixo da esperada pra um jogador profissional de poker.
Jogador totalmente descomprometido. Fizemos varias reuniões dando opções e oportunidades em troca do minimo que era, comprometimento com o time, mas não surtiram efeito.
Até que recentemente o jogador disse que o melhor era se desligar do time, pelo fato de que não conseguiria cumprir com o mínimo dos requisitos, saiu de todos os grupos do time e não temos nem ideia de como ficara a questão do seu MU. De imediato ele também bloqueou os nicks no shark.
Jogador saiu nos devendo R$348.155,49 Reais
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