Makeup: A figure owed by a staked player to their backer, comprised of accumulated tournament buy-ins. Players are often able to “clear” makeup by repaying their backer in a lump sum after a big score.

You're talking BS, a penalty clause isn't makeup.

Racz, if you're reading: never pay this penalty. Besides it being scummy it's illegal and unenforcable.

Yes, 1 BI of his ABI per day is massive BS. I suppose that how it got to 3k in 8 days of playing? lol
Theses contracts seem get more crazy with each time.

Racz, if you're reading: As EU citizen you can ask google to remove this post being shown in google search results if it something you are concerned about. Just google "EU Privacy Removal".
If you come tell your story in forum you might find more support then you think as this is outrageous ask from robwa.

3300$ debt playing avg buyin under 5$ for 8 days, wow that something new

maybe you should message them instead of posting here.. its pretty clear what he said.

Also Racz you don't owe that 3k or 2500 or whatever.. thats just asinine that Robwa can justify charging that.

1) 2p2 : Mr-Denis18
2) stars : Mr-Denis18
3) real name : Denis Pisicaru

4) played above allowed limits at the start of the stake, owes money and has not paid back during 2 months after extending his deadline several times --> i would recommend avoiding any sort of dealings

This thread is filled with inaccurate information. Zjpoker real name Zi Jung...initiated chat during an ACR tournament. We chatted for a little while...he then proceeded to ask if I could send him an email as he does not have many friends to discuss poker with. I told him he could give me his, but I wasn't putting mine in chat. He sent me his email, I emailed him and he responded with his life story pretty much. He lives in New York, "works on Wall St." and would love or someone to sit in on tournaments with him.

There was no coaching arrangement set up at all. There was no fee paid, negotiated or even discussed...HOWEVER he offered 20% of any tournament winnings if I literally just watched his tables and gave advice. The very 2nd tournament we did this..he comes in 2nd for roughly $1400 and he transfers me $280 without me even asking. This happens to be the last time he has more than a min cash over the next 2 weeks. He then takes it out on me and demands his money back. I refused and why in the world should I refund the money? The guy is simply delusional about how frequently you should win a tournament? What am I being accused of? being a bad coach? lol

I have attempted to contact mods on this site, but as expected have been very unhelpful and I think its kinda ridiculous that you can just post whatever you want about someone on here without any evidence. I ask that this be removed or some sort of process be initiated to have this removed.

Oh, that's nice. Glad I could live down to your expectations.

You got a reply from me right away telling you that what you sent me would be a good reply to make in the thread. However, I noticed now that you sent a follow-up question to me shortly after, asking what the process might be if you posted, and I missed replying to it - my sincere apologies for that. Unfortunately, it appears you were waiting for my response before posting yourself.

I wouldn't go quite that far, but I can appreciate your concern. We prefer to err on the side of getting the information out there, but yes, there is always the possibility of abuse.

Well, for starters, this probably didn't need to be its own thread, so I think the end result should at least be to move the original post and your reply to our negative feedback thread. Complete deletion isn't something we do often. As for your real name, that's something we could discuss if there's no further follow-up from OP, but I must admit that I'm reluctant given that OP is correct about the first result one gets on Google for your name (I assume it's yours since you're asking for its removal).

Mod edit: Agreed to remove real name, and am merging into main thread.

i was VERYYY open about that with you in pm's and has nothing to do with online poker

on a side note, im fine with giving Zi Jung a chance to respond to this

Against my own judgement and at the request of the officer, I even offered to give him his $280 back AFTER the fallout (i am no longer on probation but Zi Jungs claims did cause some problems back then and I ended up being cleared after quite the hassle)

However, he hasnt responded on here...or logged in many months...deleted his skype and didnt respond via phone and has appeared to just have completely disappeared

theres not much else i can do

can we give it a time frame before name is removed? you can keep screenames if you insist

Leggopoker1

$6,000 GTD 8-Max Americas Cardroom Apr 25th, 2017 5:09 AM $ 6,040.00 $ 40 1 $ 1,389.20

he actually came in 1st that tourney, and sent me $280

Adriano has repaid this.

You have to clarify which stable are you representing.

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Name: Sebastian Groza
Alias: BARBUR (partypoker)
Skype: sebastian.groza81

Played for me for a few months and all seemed fine, then has just vanished and not responded to my messaged. Had 1.5k bankroll.

Anyone with any contact, info or history with him please pm me.

Good point! Robwa which stable are you representing? If you think it's fair game to warn others about stakees outing their personal details how about you disclose your stable so people know it's disgusting practices exploiting financially vulnerable poker players?

SolidGrindStaking thread started by robwa

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...emis-1716356/?

Name: Roman Abakumov
PokerStars: Romazio
888: BlackRus777
PartyPoker: BlackRussian77
PokerStars.es: Romazio77

On July 15th, Roman had a score on PokerStars that should have provided a small chop and a clearing of makeup. He should have sent us $4,069.32.

Instead of sending this amount, he told us he had an emergency and cashed out everything for himself.

He told us he would sell his car to get this value back and send to us.

So far this has not happened and Roman continues to play online poker daily with our funds, even after repeated requests to stop.

We will update if anything changes.

Name: Luiz Claudio Santos Carneiro da Cunha
PokerStars: sagaz0022
888: sagaz022
PartyPoker: sagaz0022
PokerStars.es: S@gaz0022

Luiz missed the volume we agreed on 3 of the past 4 months. He missed the study we agreed on 2 of the past 4 months.

Luiz was choosing to skip additional study sessions we were providing him.

After repeated warnings the past 3 months that we expected things to change and for him to follow our agreement, he once again missed our volume agreement in July.

We informed Luiz that we could either move him down (as we agreed we could as we see fit when he joined) until he improved these things, or we could part ways and he could repay 60% of makeup.

Luiz abruptly left our chats and has not sent us any funds, including our funds he was being staked with.

Name: Thiago Gonçalves Fagundes
PokerStars: Sr.Fagundess
888: Sr.Fagundess
Party: Sr.Fagundess

Thiago joined us in June 2016. He was not meeting our volume and study requirements and we chose to part ways.

In March 2017 we gave him another chance.
He forced us to cut him several months ago by not playing and losing his ability to play entirely. He always had family issues, financial issues. This ended with him abruptly telling us he sold his computer after losing "a lot of money with crypto". We had to part ways as we cannot back someone that abruptly sells their only way of making money and playing online poker.

We gave Thiago 3 months to get his life sorted and begin a $100/mo repayment plan. He should have sent $100 at the beginning of this month. He let us know he will not be able to pay and that he will send funds when he returns to play poker...

At this point we must post this as negative feedback.

Name: Thomas Maucourant
Stars.es: guette_mégot (guette_megot for search feature)
Winamax: TioBabass02

Thomas joined us in June. He had a score on July 3rd that resulted in a chop. We have still not received our end of this chop. He's referenced issues with Skrill and his bank.

We are not saying he has stolen this but feel the need to post as a precaution.

We will update if there are any updates with us receiving. Without such an update, assume we have not received.

Name: Marcos Licona
Country: Mexico
Stars: maaakuui!
Skype: live:4526c59d675fc31f

Do not stake or trade with this person. He was stealing funds from his account in small sums basically every week, editing weekly cashier screenshots. Big liar and thief.

Amount owed by him:4k makeup + around 3.5k stolen

Name: Kevin Barturen
Country: Perú
Stars: Mr_knzu
Skype: live:kevin_leozu

Do not stake or trade. He was stealin funds sometimes replacin them but at the end his constructed scam got out of control, when he got caught he withdrew the remainin balance. He is currently looking for stakes. He was using our money as his personal wallet for a couple months.

Amount owed: around 3k in mu and 2k stolen.

ACR: robertcooperiii
Amount owed: 150$bankroll + 62$ profit chop

Do not stake/deal with, we were staking Robert for 3$/5$ SNG's on ACR, the second day of our agreement he hits 1.6k score on an MTT claiming it was in his own money (wich he cant prove) after this he stoped playing SNG's and we requested our funds back, he has been delaying this and ignoring us on skype and still playing poker so we are pretty sure we got scammed here.


Mod edit: Poster has been repaid.

Name: Felipe Eleutreiro Martins Vernier
PokerStars: Vernierganja
888: VERNIERGANJA
Party: VERNIERGANJA

In June we gave Felipe two options:
1) Part ways and send COH. No makeup owed.
2) Continue but our agreements for monthly volume and study must be followed. If those are missed in the future we would part ways and ask for 100% of makeup

In July, Felipe missed both the study and volume agreements we had in place. We immediately cut him and set up a repayment plan for the $1,842.17 starting bankroll + makeup. This was to be 15 payments of $122.81.

This should have started on August 20th. We have sent Skype messages, Email reminders, Facebook messages, and WhatsApp messages. Several of those have been confirmed as read. We have not receive any replies or funds.

We backed this player recently, from July 8th to early August so it may be even worse if he was playing for you at the same time. He was playing tons of off-stake games and we cut him. It's rare for us to cut someone after less than a month.

Name: Steinar Larsen
Stars: Mrmiksmaster
Nicknames on Ipoker and Other Sites: runDOSrun
Skype: Mind2spain
Email: h2h.gambler@gmail.com zintaminta381@gmail.com



Player stole from stake account, started repaying, and has now stopped and fallen out of contact.

Today we received the money for this chop. It took 55 days and we had to make a 2p2 post and create a website.

And you are sure he tried to steal it and not that it was just a skrill problem?

Pokerstars Screenname: jorgeg xd
Real name: Jorge Garcia Calzadilla
Email: jorge.garcia23@hotmail.com
Skype: jorgegxd
Country: Venezuela
Owes: $370 bankroll and $6,900 makeup

Jorge last played on the 6th July and sent screenshot 11th July, hasn't responded on Skype.