Can't argue with this logic, people should stake because they wish to lose money.

Just as a precaution... blufTTewe posted a stake in MP and hasn't been seen or heard from (I have him as Skype contact) after the opening day in a multi-day pack. RAIL

This is just a precaution and will give him one week in case of emergency, hospitalization, or some other catastrophic event. Afterwards, I will post as much information that I possibly know about him.

Full Name: Nicky Paolo Cuaran Rosas
E-Mail: correo.alterno01@hotmail.com
Skype: alterno01,alterno02
City: Popayan,Colombia
PokerStars: alterno01
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DiabloL2/about

Signed Contract

Identification

Chat in Spanish where he recognize that he scammed us

Full Name: Juan David Zambrano Acosta
Skype: jdaza121
City: Transversal 39b #72-11 apto 203,Medelllin,Colombia
PokerStars: jdaza

Identification

Signed Contract



Some chats in Spanish where he recognize as a scammer

PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR ADVISE.SORRY FOR SUCH A LONG POST!
Hey guys! I'm trying to solve a problem i have with a stacking group and i want to ask your opinion in this matter. I was advised by a respected 2+2 member to do this anonymously in order to have a sinceer opinion but i decided not to and let karma do its thing for the ones who missjudge this.
I know many of you are friends with pocarr staff but i hope that you will judge this sincerely.
I was backed by pocarr group for almost an year and made aprox 6k profit which was split acording to our contract.
In mid june i announced them that i will not play for a while, 2-3 weeks, because i will have to study for my exams since i was in last year in university and had to pass those.
I didn't manage to pass all the exams in the 1st presentation so that period extended to 5-6 weeks and after i finished school i took a week off and tried to think about what i am going to do regarding poker since i made only 6k playing mtts(like i said earlier) in almost a year. i went to an interview for a job and i wanted to see if i could find a job that could pay my bills since playing mtts couldn't and then announce pocarr staff my decision and how can we solve my problem(playing part-time, changing to sngs etc).
I was at the moment in 1.7k MU and 400$ in BR.
I didn't gave an answer to pocarr staff as fast as i would have wanted to because my situation was unclear( and i know this is my mistake because i should have announced them that my break will be longer) and i recieved an e-mail from them saying to update my rail. I responded imediately(the same day) and explained my situation.
They said i managed this very poorly and that i played 500 HU hypers with their funds which is not true...like i said i told them i will be on a break and i won't play for pocarr...and i didn't use pocarr funds to play HU hypers as my audit can show for those who want, i recieved money in my account and didn't use pocarr funds.
They imediately made a payment plan which says i have to pay 400$/ month wich is absolutely impossible for me since the average wage in Romania is 500$/month.
They also threatened me with a site wich will contain my name and ID and stuff which will say i am a thief and a scammer and all sort of bad things.I found this absurd and stupid since i'm not a thief ( like i said i sent the bankroll and responded imediately to their e-mail) and they are the ones who dropped me and didn't offer me an alternative.
So after all this story( sorry it was so long, and thank you for reading this and helping me) my question is : do i have to also send them the MU since they are the ones who dropped me? I sent them 400$,the bankroll, as they requested but i'm not sure if i am supposed to send the MU also.
I am not a thief and if my judgement is wrong i want to pay in full but not as they requested because i simply can't do it and not being threatened with a site in which they say i am a thief since this is absurd and was not mentioned before we made a deal. I want to mention that we had a problem in the past regarding my MU wich was off by 200$ but i imediately saw and acknowledged my mistake and paid and corrected my mistake and they saw it was a mistake and said it was ok.
So as a conclusion i want to say again that i sent them the bankroll, i want to pay all the MU if you all say this is the thing to do but i want to know if this is fair since they are the ones who dropped me and didn't offer me an alternative (and i saw , reading through this negative feedback and asking people, that if a stacking group drops you, you are only obligated to send the bankroll and that the MU is their loss if they are the ones who decide that they don't want to stake you anymore).
PS: i know many of you are friends with Alex(pocarr) but please be sinceer and give your honest opinion about this and be fair with me

it turns out one of the guys who i co owned the stable with who worked with luke usher (we backed him) confirmed that luke owed him 900 dollars and never paid him back. if i had known this info sooner maybe others could have avoided him

So i spoke to luke usher (l_usher87) and apparently his situation is not great, broke, unemployed, and owes my collegue + another staking group in this thread, and was hacked. From what hes told me hes appealing stars decision on his account being hacked and if that doesn't work plans to pay back the money at least from what i gathered. However this might take some time. While its unfortunate for the parties involved from what iv gathered and have seen he looks like hes just an unlucky person in this situation rather then a scammer based on the fact that hes maintained contact with the parties involved.

Time will tell

I know Kick2Dante has no marketplace privileges [i dont even know if you even need it to post in this section] but if he sends me a pm, I will copy paste it here if he wants to respond.

I[staker] am short $136 from him [ kick2dante ]due to a difference of opinion. I was being very carefree about the terms on a staking deal and let him decide on them. He decided to give me 50% rackback as insurance if he wasnt profitable. I ship and than due to problems which he says out were out of his control like sending me histories; I put a hold on the stake 3 days later so he can figure things out. During this time he did not send me daily reports as I requested [ he did send one correctly and another that was completly wrong] nor were he able to make an account on messenger so we can chat etc and have everything in one simple location.

due to this hold/possible cancellation, he found it alright to withhold my rackback because the stake was cut short.

He did return what was left over of my stake so I do believe its no scam.

He is wrong in thinking however I don't deserve to get the portion of the rackback so that is what I am missing from him.

I was going to wait for responses, but given where you posted this, I don't see anyone responding and there are things in here that are flat out wrong that I wish to address.

I cannot find a Skype message or email about this. I see a message in your rail that reads, "I haven't been able to put the volume I wanted this month...Is the last month of school and I got a lot of exams to pass..it will be over in two weeks though and I will be able to put in the volume and hardwork again," posted on June 17th. On July 27th I sent you an email letting you know we were parting ways as it had been 6 weeks and you had not posted, messaged us, emailed us. Had I not messaged you, this would have gone on longer. So 2 weeks turned into 6 weeks and we still had not heard from you...and you had played without updating.

Yes, we sent an email and Joian responded quickly, this is correct. We asked for an audit and as of today have still not received this audit.

From June 18th - July 27th you played 45 staked games without updating your rail.

You played 600 games total (mostly the hypers you mentioned above). To not update your rail at all for 6 weeks, play staked games, and the fact your rail was off 1 time previously (which we dismissed and added to makeup), led us to believe it's fairly likely you used Pocarr funds to play these games. Again, we still have yet to receive an audit. Irregardless, you played 45 games and went 6 weeks without contacting us or updating.

1) Rail was well off. We adjusted and added to makeup and kept staking Joian.
2) Does not contact us for 6 weeks, we have to contact him. Has been playing hypers for himself and has played staked games without updating.

I don't see what other alternative we could offer. We are not going to continue staking someone that has broken our agreement and has now had a 2nd incident. We also are very uncomfortable selling your makeup to another stable as we are not going to sell someone that we think is a risky investment of time and money.

The only option at this point was dropping.

Given you broke the agreement twice, we feel asking for makeup is more than fair. Otherwise it becomes pretty easy for any backee to just break an agreement, get dropped, and walk without paying makeup.

Right now we have a $200 every 2 weeks repayment plan. We are happy to adjust this to $200 a month.

Posting a PM sent to rainbow warrior

I don't know what the scam could be here if there is one. It just doesn't make sense and doesn't add up.

Posting here until mods can look at it to protect others. They can then remove if they find a reason to.

I have never been scammed, and this is one of the weirder conversations I have ever had.

Follow up conv before I blocked him

[QUOTE]back
[8:23:35 PM] j**** P****: Have you done this before?
[8:23:43 PM] Fede IPad2: what ?
[8:23:44 PM] Fede IPad2: the toilet ?
[8:23:52 PM] Fede IPad2: or sending money to someone
[8:23:55 PM] Fede IPad2: to increase rep ?
[8:24:04 PM] j**** P****: let other people play remotely
[8:24:09 PM] Fede IPad2: no
[8:24:12 PM] Fede IPad2: never done
[8:24:19 PM] Fede IPad2: except ghosting sessions
[8:24:21 PM] Fede IPad2: to let my coach
[8:24:29 PM] Fede IPad2: watching me playing
[8:24:37 PM] Fede IPad2: and coaching my on mistakes
[8:24:42 PM] j**** P****: who is your 2p2 coach
[8:24:47 PM] Fede IPad2: … with no results.
[8:25:02 PM] Fede IPad2: he's not on p2p, I would never take a coach that doesn't speak italian
[8:25:11 PM] j**** P****: lol what site, what screen name?
[8:25:14 PM] Fede IPad2: cuz I'm not so fluent in english speaking
[8:25:26 PM] Fede IPad2: I can tell his real name ? and mine ?
[8:25:33 PM] Fede IPad2: I'm Federico **** (check on facebook)
[8:25:38 PM] j**** P****: I want his poker name really
[8:25:42 PM] Fede IPad2: and my coach is **** ****
[8:25:48 PM] j**** P****: To see if he has a rep in the poker world
[8:25:48 PM] Fede IPad2: ok
[8:25:58 PM] j**** P****: Can he vouch for you etc
[8:26:14 PM] j**** P****: Does he have a website hes on?
[8:26:16 PM] Fede IPad2: huh … I guess he would
[8:26:18 PM] Fede IPad2: no
[8:26:31 PM] Fede IPad2: http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http...24&h=hAQHPPVCg
[8:26:37 PM] j**** P****: Typically someone that coaches and charges 35/hr for uNL stakes would need a webpage to sell the coaching
[8:26:41 PM] Fede IPad2: that's him
[8:26:44 PM] j**** P****: it dosnt just magically sell itself
[8:26:48 PM] Fede IPad2: yes you can
[8:26:52 PM] Fede IPad2: if you do it trough intellipoker
[8:26:56 PM] Fede IPad2: the pokerstars coaching platform
[8:27:17 PM] Fede IPad2: http://forum.continuationbet.com/f18...79/#post914924
[8:27:45 PM] Fede IPad2: he've been coached by **** that's an intellipoker coach, paid by pokerstars.
[8:28:59 PM] Fede IPad2: since italian poker has its channels
[8:29:11 PM] Fede IPad2: because it's limited to italians due to tax fact that I explained you before
[8:29:28 PM] Fede IPad2: it's hard to find "famous" italian online players
[8:30:06 PM] j**** P****: You abbreviated/used slang with the word because, substituting the word "cuz"
[8:30:16 PM] j**** P****: That seems like fairly strong english
[8:30:28 PM] Fede IPad2: studying english since 1 elementary school
[8:30:37 PM] Fede IPad2: played online games like world of warcraft and counterstrike since 10 years
[8:30:38 PM] j**** P****: I dont think a lot of things make sense, other than you want to make money like everyone else alive
[8:30:44 PM] j**** P****: I have to say I really am not interested
[8:30:50 PM] Fede IPad2: ok never mind then.
[8:30:52 PM] j**** P****: I can play poker online
[8:31:04 PM] Fede IPad2: I got some money to invest
[8:31:10 PM] Fede IPad2: CUZ I WANNA MAKE MONEY
[8:31:13 PM] Fede IPad2:
[8:31:16 PM] j**** P****: Have a ton of savings that I can use for poker if I can't get my live stake, I just choose not to so my gf is happy
[8:31:42 PM] j**** P****: And this doesn't make nearly enough sense for me to want to do it
[8:31:43 PM] j**** P****: Sorry
[8:31:48 PM] j**** P****: GL to you
[8:32:12 PM] Fede IPad2: ok … anyway if you want 200$ as a "verification tax" feel free to write me.

*

Edit/MH: RL name and coaches' names removed per request by idkfaiddqd.

Full Name: Sorin Popescu. Also goes by Sorin Bogdan.
Skype: sorinpopescu5
City: Timisora, Romania
PokerStars: nbv696
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sorinbogdan.bogdan

Applied for a stake for 12 man sngs but was turned down when he said that his pokerstars account is under his girlfriend's name. A few days later his girlfriend Iuliana Diaconita contacts me saying she wanted to get a stake, that she was the one who had all the good results in the 12 man sngs, and that Sorin wouldn't be using the account. I thought nothing of it at the time and sent 300$ and reload 100$ later on down the line. It turns out to be Sorin pretending to be his girlfriend all along and he steals the bankroll and all the profits. I demand the money back and he refuses to give any. Beware of him and him pretending to be his girlfriend Iuliana Diaconita.

Full Name: Kristian Heincz
Skype: hajnczg
City: Zagreb, Croatia
PokerStars: heincz

Staked him 500$ to play MTTs. He sent in 600$ over a few weeks then prompty vanished with my 500$ and didn't reply to my messages or e-mails.

Full Name: Alexandru Cristian Franciuc
Skype: nabike12
City: Alba Iulia, Romania
PokerStars: al3x21_Best
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/franciuc.al...xandrucristian

Staked him 200$ to play 2.50$ 180 mans. He started by immediately playing games that weren't permitted and cashing out 150$ to cover a debt to someone else he owed. Demanded repayment from him, he gave a total of 20$ back and then blocked me on skype.

I really mean no offense when I say this, but you honestly didn't think anything of it when you denied the guy and then right after his "girlfriend" comes and asks for a stake saying it's her results? Comes across super sketchy and you should keep a better eye out for things like this.

Yeah no offense taken, it wasn't one of my smartest decisions. An expensive lesson to say the least.

Irodotos Iosif
PS: IROS29
Skype : irodotos.iosif
https://www.facebook. - removed(rw)

Irodotos lives in Cyprus.

We took Iro on about 6-7 weeks ago. It became pretty quickly apparent that he did not have the skill or knowledge that we thought he had when we initially made the offer.

I'm writing this on Monday evening. He cleared makeup late Friday night and sent us that. We then asked to pause the deal, and for him to return the $1000 bankroll while we did a thorough HH review.

- He saw this Saturday morning and took immediate offence and refused.
- He continued to register tournaments all that day, and all of Sunday, even though we were in constant contact throughout demanding he return the bankroll.
- On Sunday night he signed off Skype and hid from search on Pokerstars. He ignores requests at the tables to come back on Skype.
- He has not returned our $1000.
- Today (Monday) he claims to be working with a new backer in an effort to repay us, but judging by Sharkscope I'm sure he's still just playing with our money, of which he should have some left.


~~~~~~~~
Sept 18
Update : As of early Wednesday morning Iro has now repaid the $1000 in full. This matter is now resolved.

Andy Singele
singele.andy@gmail.com
Switzerland
2300 La Chaux-de-Fonds

2+2: fishyswiss
skype : andysingele
pokerstars: dimsbmx020
FTP: FishySwiss41

He also posts on fr.pokerstrategy.com under the name "kenny141" http://fr.pokerstrategy.com/forum/th...133700&page=11


Andy applied for a stake and I found one of the graphs he sent me in a PGC thread that wasn't his.

His email


The graph he sent me


Where I found the graph in PGC

Name: Jerico Guadalupe Venoza
Country: Philippines
Screenname: 'ecoecoeco' on Pokerstars
Email: kabuki_eco@yahoo.com
2+2 Handle:
PTP Sn: Eco
Skype: Jerico.Venoza

Situation:
Staked this player $200 on July 18th to play small staked 45, 90, and 180 man SNGs.

Reported fine for a month, increased BR to $400, but then fell out of contact on August 27th.

We made numerous attempts to contact him (Skype, emails) after that date. During this time, he made no contact and additionally played in games unauthorized in his contract (Super Turbo HU SNGs, including a $60). Incidentally, he won during this period of no contact.

On September 12th, the player emailed in and claimed that account was compromised at an internet cafe in Manila. The player stated that someone had logged into his account and transferred all but $60 of the funds to screenname “THEM0NEYTEAM”. Instead of informing Pokerstars or his financial backers, the player then played in the unauthorized games in an apparent attempt to recoup the funds. The notion that anyone might buy this story speaks to the intelligence of the storyteller.

The player has since dropped out of contact (shocker), despite numerous attempts to reach him. Has recently been playing FPP satellites and freerolls. A good indicator that our funds are no longer, they cease to be.

Cliffs:
Stole/degened off $400. Brought an implausible story to the table as an excuse. Weaksauce.


As always, if the situation changes the post will be updated.

Cheers,
RA

Hi,anybody any chance know this guy from this forum,nick is: animosity and he's pokerstars and ftp nick goes by: synchronity

Just a warning,that guy hacked and stole from my pokerstars account T$215 and sold them here in this forum i guess,he put them to sale in 23th last month,but i see edited his post just "........." If someone has buyed those T$, please let me know.

What he did not know,i'm known live poker player and have contacts pretty wide,so he is getting some serious problem if he don't contact me soon enough,lifetime bans etc.

So if anybody know this guy or you animosity see this yourself,you contact me uittomaki@outlook.com

Thanks.

Name: Samson Lee
Country: USA
Screen name: AA1ishAA (BCP)
Email: lees0315@hotmail.com
2+2 handle: A 1 i s h A
Skype: Lees0315

Situation:
I know 2+2 doesnt allow tradesn paypal, however, they do happen and I feel I need t tell my story.

I had $1500 BCP. Postd it in the Marketplace and was contacted by a 2+2 member and said he could buy up all of it. I made the mistake of saying I would use paypal and would take $1400 paypal.

There were two transactions one for $900 paypal/$1000 BCP and $500 PP for/$550 BCP. I sent funds first because member seemed as though he had a good rep 3k post and many transactions within community.

After he confirmed he received the BCP funds (without telling me before hand) had someone else ship me the $ on PP. I got the funds cashed them out on PP and into Bank with out issues. We did the smaller swap few days later and he used same 3rd party.

This was in May, come end of August I get 2 emails from PP that say these 2 transactions may not have been made by the other person and were under review. I immedately contact 2+2 member I swap with and he said he had just recieved same type of email about another transaction he had made.

Me and other member tried to contact his 3rd party that sent PP and got no response. i had only 7 days to reply to PP and I had dne much business on there and didnt want them digging into account and decided that I would tell PP to refund the $ to sending account.

After talking to other 2+2 member we agreed that he was responsible for repaying me because he used a 3rd party in the swap without telling me first. He said once I prove PP was refunded to 3rd party he would send me $1500 BCP 2 weeks later. I agreed.

2 weeks later no BCP he says he now doesn't feel he should be held responsible. And he is not going to repay until he talks to 3rd party.

Now I am 95% sure I got scammed but in slight chance I am not I wanted to get feedback form community about who should take the hit and bite the bullet.

Well deadline came and went ... The member I was dealing with is A 1 i s h A ... He was very active in the sports betting threads early this year. His real name from what he has told me is Samson Lee ... The name of the 3rd party in the swaps was George Lee ... His Skype screen name is Lees0315 ... As soon as I recieved payment from George Lee red flags went up and I felt something like this could happen.

If anyone has issue with this member I have all DM, Skype convos, and email saved.

Hate to have to do this since I am trying to build a solid rep on here, however, even if bA A 1 i s h A 1 is not scamming me he made some pretty poor decisions with these swaps, agreed on a resolution and is now backing out of word. Worst case he scammed me out of $1500 BCP.


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edit - RW
I am banning A 1 i s h A

A 1 i s h A was temp-banned for a few weeks recently while I checked out another Paypal problem that Netrobbery had with him.
Nothing was settled and I didn't feel that I had quite enough, both claiming the other was up to something.

Netrobbery, semi-dormant lately, has been PMed and ask to contribute any additional info.

.

please repost that ^ in the p2p chat thread in the internet poker forum

it seems he ran with our money.
we haven`t heard from him again after he busted the first tourney 10 days ago.
he hasnt played on stars or FTP either since he disappeared.

2+2:blufTTewe
stars:rihannAAA
FTP:chrishendry
Name: Chris Hendry
Twitter: @alphanumeric
Skype: starsrihannaaa

Hey,

My name is Irodotos Iosif

As you can see above the problem and misunderstanding are solved.

So could you please remove these negative things.

Thanks

Name: Tomasz Orzechowski
Country: Poland
Screenname: 'leglessdog' on Pokerstars
Email: orzechowski.tomasz@gmail.com
2+2 Handle:
PTP Sn:
Skype: tomasz.orzechowski

Situation: Staked this player $200 to play small stakes 45 and 180man SNGs on July 26th. Reported fine through the first few weeks, but then abruptly dropped out of contact on August 10th. After that date, the player played 100+ games without a report or contact.

We sent him an email on Aug 27th, he replied Sept 2nd with:

Through various emails afterwards, he was given three separate dates to report by (Sept 8th, Sept 16th, and Sept 21st). The player failed to file a proper report or return the $200 bankroll (which theoretically still exists). This was his latest stall attempt on Sept 15th:

Note: There was no heads up about the the funerals or the alleged work training until far after the fact and after an inquiry from our side. Because a 10 second email or Skype message to explain your upcoming absence to a party which you have a financial arrangement with is far too much to ask.

Cliffs:
We have not received a screenshot or the $200. Funds are assumed KIA. Small time roller. Do not stake.


As always, if the situation changes the post will be updated.

Cheers,
RA

Fernando Jorge Magalhaes Alves Correia

fernandojcorreia8@hotmail.com
Fernandojorgecorreia89@gmail.com

Praça 9 de Abril,49 1º ESQ 4200-422
Porto
Portugal

2+2:
skype :f3rn4nd0c0rr
skype:whyalwaysmept
pokerstars: FernandoCorr

So i backed this guy for 8 months and he stole $200 from the stake and $800 from me... I know after that he already scamed some people before me so i really not expecting to receive anything back!!!

I tried to talk with him but no response was given!!!

Hey guys,

My name is Irodotos Iosif, I am a Mathematician and an Msc Risk Management holder.

I am writing because recently I had an issue with my ex backers (The Poker Backers).
As you can see on their post
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/10...l#post40188169

they refer to me as a THIEF something which really hurts me because I am an honest trustworthy guy. I have never stolen a single cent.

The story starts like this:

I worked for poker backers (TPB) for almost one month. I made 6k profit even though I was in really bad run. I played almost 400!!!!!! hours.

I have to say that these guys during the time I was working for them they treated me without RESPECT at all. Anyway, they are the boss. They can behave as they want.

One Sunday, while I was in my session I saw a message saying:
1) STOP playing
2) Send the balance back

That was so unbelievable for me and really disappointed me. I continued playing telling them in Skype after I cooled down that ok you will have your thousand very soon. I had a problem with my bank and I managed to send them after two days.

However, the post is still there referring to me as a THIEF.

I contacted them asking them politely to remove that post or even those BAD words for me and they answered me that for us you are a THIEF.

This would be really unfair for anybody.

Who they think they are to call somebody,,, who is ok with his responsibilities and doesn't own money to anybody,,,, a THIEF??????????

So guys and especially mates, I need your HELP.

We ,the poker players, work so hard and do not let any BACKER to take this weird and without reason offence to a player and take an issue to personal level trying to destroy his reputation.

I need help to make these guys remove that post.

Can anybody help me and tell me what to do?


Thanks in advance,

Irodotos Iosif (IROS29)

bolded makes no sense