THERE IS NO BOUNDARY FOR A LYING FRAUD CHILD ABUSING SCUM BAG. AT THE END OF THE DAY, HE WAS UNDER A CONTRACT, HE GAVE THE IMPRESSION AS PER THE IMAGE NICKY POSTED HE WAS DONE WITH NASH-STAKING AND PLAYING POKER, WE REACHED OUT TO WALTER AND WE WERE BLOCKED AND IGNORED, WE HAD TO CREATE A NEW ACCOUNT TO SPEAK TO THIS RAT. WE TAUGHT THIS GUY EVERYTHING, INVESTED MONEY INTO THIS PLAYER AND WERE DUMPED. 6 HOURS LATER HE WAS PLAYING ON HIS OWN DIME ON HIS OTHER ACCOUNT. SO MUCH FOR "BEING DONE WITH POKER".

****SCAMMER FRAUD ALERT*****

***WALTER MONKHOUSE UPDATE***

Professionalism was adhered to in communication until you blocked us and stole our money; business relation ethics are fulfilled for loyal people upholding their side of the contract issued.

Legal action has commenced, bank has been contacted and are reviewing the contract issued and reversing funds sent to Walter.


***SCAMMER ALERT***REKNOM & BAYOUBOY71*ACR***

It seems clear there is some wrongdoing on the part of the horse here, telling his backer he wanted to take a break, but then playing poker on a different account. There also seem to be some communication issues.

However, there was a very serious accusation made that started this all off:

Ash, you made a very specific accusation that Chenoa cashed out and chip dumped funds that don't belong to him, but I notice you haven't mentioned it again since he denied it. Are you backing off from that?

Also, knock it off with the all-caps rants, rapid-fire repetitive posts, and accusations that have nothing to do with the situation at hand. None of this is helping you - quite to the contrary.

Seems rather childish behaviour from the backers threatening to reverse transfers to the stakee. Unelievable that they sent via payal in the first place as its against PAYPAL's t&cs to send money to someone else to gamble with so both parties could end up losing their paypal accounts and god knows what happens if there is still staking funds sat on those accounts.https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...ghlight=paypal

I think people are seeing the gist and rationale of this man. Now i made up the chat? I'm a child abuser? I chip dumped? Where's it going to stop? I posted my pt4 graph which anyone here is welcome to take a look at and see there of course was no dumping. Kind of hard to run almost $400 under ev and dump. Im also willing to let someone get on teamviewer and look at the facebook chat. I've never denied that i broke the contract. When i said i would payback i get the "f---k it, im going to ruin you" rants. So this irrational person starts slinging lies and mud at me and then expects to get paid? I may have to just take the lick on this one and let people say what they want. I cant see any $$ changing hands to this assclown.

i gotta be honest, the way both handled it was pretty poor imo

All, I am going to put this quite simple as this:

Walter Monkhouse was under contract with Nash Staking for a 20,000 game stake at the $6HU games. After 3 months, without approval from the backing team Walter decided to play $12HU games in which he decided to play over 140 in one session and lost all our funds. Walter was staked $70. He ran the money up to $570. Walter requested he have half the profits of $500. Nicky sent Walter $250 and we stated we would leave our initial stake of $70 + profit of $250 in his account so that when we decided he was over his mental issue of playing higher stakes he was ready to move up and enough funds were available at a higher level. Again Walter without approval moved up stakes and played over 140 games loosing it all in one session. Then we get the Skype message Nicky posted of "well so long boys! I'm done with poker". 6 Hours later Walter is playing on "bayouboy71" on ACR. His other account. We asked Walter why was he playing on another account when he is in make up. He ignored me then blocked me. On another account we asked Walter that if he was done with his contract, at the least, contractually and out of respect he pays his $70 + $250 profit to Nash Staking. Which is our initial stake plus 50% of his profit. (He had cashed out his $250). We was ignored, we then asked him if he couldn't afford it in one lump to set up a payment plan and we would be happy with monthly payments of $50 until the balance is cleared. We then were told that he was getting $6,500 via some insurance claim and he "would do the right thing and pay back" after admitting he had broken the contract. 1 month past we asked Walter when we would receive some funds as a payment plan wasn't agreed to. Ignored again. Regardless of what was said to Walter out of frustration and anger, Walter is in make up with Nash Staking, he broke his contract / agreement and therefore we are processing legal action. Walter has the option to pay our funds back as we are in the early stages of legal commencement.

Walter is trying every way possible to get around this with "oh Ashley said his going to do this and that". At the end of the day buddy you are in make up so either play the games contracted to and achieve these funds or send us our money and the contract will be terminated. Until then, as no payment plan or make up agreement has been clarified I have no other option to make the community aware of this activity.

Bobo Fett, appreciate your comments here; we have contacted ACR in relation to the chip dumping accusation and they have confirmed after an audit we would be entitled to a decision on the potential fraudulent activity. I will keep you posted.

Keith, not really childish behavior to reverse transactions. Put yourself in our shoes, you spend months investing in a player with one on one coaching with a heads up wizard costing the business $400. You have money investing in this player too. The player ignores you for over a month and plays on another account. With no communication or payment plan in place and no comments on ever playing back for our make up under contract, are we just meant to let these players get away with this? Are we a charity? This person in the grand scheme is taking money from our hard earned savings. I don't go to work to fund other players gambling addictions as clearly based on the graph initially posted, this is what this player has turned into. For the record the funds were eligible to be paid back to Nicky the owner of Nash Staking. Nicky sent the player funds via ACR & Paypal. This player was staked by Nicky under Nash Staking, so Walter if your issue is with me and you have nothing but respect for Nicky as mentioned in your previous posts, pay the man his money back. Anyone want proof these funds came from Nicky and not me, then just ask. Oh wait, here comes another excuse not to by Walter. Yes this was a joint business by Nicky and myself however we both staked 5 players each and came under the agreement we would each be liable for our own players investments and financial obligations.

It seems no matter how much you invest financially and time wise into a player, one on one coaching / audits on game play / PT4 help courses / personalized charts; you just can't trust anyone. Loyalty is something Walter Monkhouse hadn't been educated on at an early age.

Conclusion: Maybe it was wrong to post about Walter's public records regarding child activity; I apologize if this has made the public more aware of his past mistakes. Maybe it was wrong to threaten this man with reversal of funds and publicly making the community aware, however when you receive no communication and see the player is playing on another account when in make up, frustration takes over. One time loyalty that we had towards this player goes out the window. Walter broke a contract, owes Nicky at Nash Staking money, either play it back under your contract rules or send funds back and we will terminate the contract, until then we will have no option but to make other potential backers aware of this activity whilst commencing legal action.

Dont think this was handled very well at all on either side but seems kinda sketchy that your original post said he cashed out funds without referencing that it was an approved chop by you guys.

You also mention nothing until now about playing above the stake. These seem to be a couple of pretty big omissions?

Clearly playing on his own account after agreeing to a month of was wrong, which he has admitted, which you are probably owed something for, which he has agreed, but there appears to be a number of ommissions and half stories here (probably on both sides) that warrant a little more restraint and professionalism than you guys have shown in this thread.

I mean you accuse him of child abuse out of nowhere and are posting all over the internet (I saw a post on a Canadian Poker facebook page) stating the same and other derogatory names, along with a picture of his house?

I mean the guy admits he was wrong to break the contract and you and your staking company come off looking way worse and suspect somehow.

You staked him for $6 hu sngs with this prior knowledge then decided when **** didn't go your way to spread it about in public? How do these moron stakers get any sympathy with how incompetent they are? In your first sentence you call him a child abusing scumbag then go on to say he was under contract to us and surely that is sacred how could he think of breaking that!

Call that bluff that you are starting any legal proceedings as staking contracts from far more efficient stables than you have zero bearing in a court room so i doubt you have a lawyer write up these contracts with him on retainer to aggressively bring a lawsuit to a horse who steals $250 or whatever it is.

Assuming a 10% roi excluding rake which you split 50/50 the stakee is earning 30 cents a game how can u expect people to grind out at that level while you take your 50%? If you want legit horses who will work hard stake people for stakes that can earn more than the minimum wage.

Everything I have needed to say is in my latest post. Please read previous posts, it states Walter played above stakes agreed. My first post maybe.

Hardly came off looking worse. Not sure what is wrong with you guys on this thread, the guy broke the rules and owes Nash Staking money. It's really as simple as that. Public records are there for everyone to see so therefore no illegal activity was undertaken here.

[QUOTE=U shove i call;52885453]You staked him for $6 hu sngs with this prior knowledge then decided when **** didn't go your way to spread it about in public? How do these moron stakers get any sympathy with how incompetent they are? In your first sentence you call him a child abusing scumbag then go on to say he was under contract to us and surely that is sacred how could he think of breaking that!

Final comment in my previous threads.

At no point did i say i was in favour of the horse. Just pointed out how ridiculous you look entering into a unenforceable contract with the prior knowledge you had. If a real career is backing known criminals (so you claim) in $6 sngs then im happy for you having achieved that well done.

Nice edit this reply was to what you previously wrote.

you and, i assume, your partner levenen both posted 6 times (so 12 times total) in this thread up until your last post saying you are "going to put this quite simply" there is no mention of by either of you that he played above the stake level. Unless i am completely missing something, I have read all the posts. As I said, this seems like a pretty big omission for this long when trying to establish a pattern of behaviour that suggests fraud, etc

posts 24-27 clearly imo and by the looks of it most others in this thread would agree start to tip the scale to you guys coming off worse than a guy who broke a staking contract and has admitted and says he will pay back

But to each his own, don't see how you are doing yourself any favours movingg forward running a business like this. Even when wronged easy tto be better than the people that wronged you

good luck

Public records were not checked prior to staking a player. Nash was an additional business venture we entered in to help new players come through the ranks. We never took profit from anyone and to this day only laid our time and funds to assist players. My career is within the property sector and investments within the NYSE & FTSE 250. This means nothing to me anymore. I've said what I needed to.

Harp, appreciate your comments here, seem the only mutual honest opinion so I have nothing but respect for. I have checked back and yes there is no mention of Walter moving up stakes, my large post breaks down everything in exact order of what happened here. Apologise if it seems to have been broken down and scattered within different posts. However I trust my post above clarifies this situation. The confusion lies where the link to the FB comment is which mentions the move up stakes without approval. This was a venture we will move forward from, learn and move on. The community is aware of what happened and how Walter broke the contract. For Nash Staking we will move on and forward and continue to help players advance in their poker studies. We will ensure clearer audits are undertaken to protect from potential fraudsters.

It would seem that they reacted very poorly, yes. But that doesn't change the fact that you, as you admitted, broke the contract. As a result, I expect you owe them money. The right thing to do would be to reach an agreement with them and move on, no matter how poorly they have handled this. Keep in mind, that although it doesn't excuse poor behaviour, their response happens because you broke your contract.

Thanks.

If you can't go through your earlier posts in this thread and see how you've handled yourself poorly, I'm not sure what to tell you. Maybe you need an uninvolved unbiased third party you trust to read this thread and give you some feedback. I don't think anyone who has been critical of your posts has said that they believe you are owed nothing.

If all is as you say, it seems clear that Chenoa owes you some money. But it's entirely possible that you may have been able to get this stake back on track had you handled things in a better way. Given that you're highly unlikely to receive 100% of your funds going the legal route, and that you've made some mistakes yourselves, I'd suggest trying to negotiate a reasonable settlement with Chenoa.

Bobo, extremely well said and put. Although I'm sure we won't be hearing from Walter anytime soon regarding these funds. Walter, please reach out to Nicky whom "you have the up most respect for" and return what is owed.

Any evidence for the child abuse accusations etc?
I understand he might have screwed you over but thats some serious ****.

Public records are there to be seen, a bit of research and you will find these documents.

I see Walter hasn't replied about paying Nicky his funds back; another leach to the poker community.

Yes its very serious. I have no kids, never did any s#### like that. He has lied so many times its unreal. He said i chipped dumped, graph below shows my downswing and running $350 under ev. He super imposed my name onto his facebook messages saying that was me talking lol. Ashely--show this forum the website you found this child abusing i did. Not a picture that you can impose names onto, but the actual website. I'd love to see it. You do that and show us the website that you "found" and i'll snap ship you the money. Gl trying to show a picture and not the website because thats what you will try to do. After all if you found this website, anyone should be able to go to it right? This should be fun seeing how he will now explain that its suddenly not there. I've never said me playing $2 hu's was right. I was wrong according the to the contract. But you just keep lying--it must be very difficult for you stop. When you said that you were going to ruin me, i'll give you credit, the effort has been there.



heres my chip dumping between august 20 til last day i played:

I think you were trying to be sarcastic but this isn't a smart thing to post..

FWIW it isn't impossible to run 50 buy-ins under EV while chip dumping over 100 games. seems unlikely but not impossible.

Well he said he reported my "chip dumping" a few weeks ago to acr--i'm pretty sure if they concluded i did that my accts would be suspended which they are not. On another note, he just put a paypal reversal claim on the bank acct that was used to send me money in profit chops. He said he never got the "item he purchased" from me and wants the money back. Of course i emailed them back and denied that, but we will see how that goes. If and hopefully when paypal clears me of that, we will discuss some sort of payment if he comes clean about lying about childabuse or w/e he says i did.

Walter, it's clear you have no intention of fulfilling your contract obligations and paying funds back after you abused.

Regardless of bringing to the attention of fellow social media personnel your previous convictions and the chip dumping - you were never paying any funds back, hence why we were ignored on numerous occasions trying to arrange a payment plan. As mentioned loyalty isn't within your ethic. As you aren't paying the funds back we will continue our claim with the bank and paypal.

The link to the child abuse will be posted on social media as here it will be removed.

Once ACR come back to us as mentioned with the outcome of the chip dumping case we will post feedback. Walter has been reported on ACR for playing on two accounts too.

I think it's clear to this forum that although this issue may have been handled incorrectly, Walter as agreed was in breach of contract and although caught, still doesn't want to pay funds back. I trust further staking companies will understand what kind of creature this person is. Being in make up and within 6 hours playing on his secondary account is disgusting behavior.

Until funds are received, I have no option but to continue making the community aware of Walters negligence of contract to ensure he doesn't f**k someone else over. "It" can't and won't be able to steal from another company whilst I continue with broadcasting his behavior.

While that could ultimately be the result, there will be no penalty to you for posting it. I'd like to see you back up this very serious accusation.

Given that he's admitted it himself, yes, I'd agree with that.

This, however, is far from clear at this point.