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05-15-2016 , 08:17 PM

#26

ReasonableDoubt

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Originally Posted by jclan5

If you want specifics PM me

you really expect after admitting to stealing from another person, that anyone at all will give any credibility to what you are saying?

**** off..

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05-15-2016 , 08:28 PM

#27

The Apex

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He just came itt to call OP a liar and say he's making things up without giving specifics or providing any proof.

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05-16-2016 , 10:06 PM

#28

UofOalum2002

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Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 50

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Originally Posted by jclan5

Some of the things Joseph is mentioning in the thread are true and some/most of the things he is lying about/straight making up. We have detailed conversations where many times Joseph legitimately fishes for information and accuses me of things he assumes happend to gain/the most possible $ back. Joseph also leaves out a lot of information about the whole situation at hand.

He doesn't mention throughout this whole post that we came to an agreement of re-payment. We both agreed upon terms that we both thought were fair...well later I found out that wasn't the case as he broke terms of the agreement and reached out to many people that were not/should not have been involved.

Throughout the whole process he did not want to work with me at all in figuring anything out. He never wanted to talk. He only wanted to create as many stories he could to get the most amount of $ back.

If anyone would like to contact me further about the whole situation at hand and not just some of it please contact me either on here through direct PM or contact me and I will give my phone #.

What all that the original poster claimed is untrue, exaggerated or just lies? It would definitely help your side a lot to point out the untrue parts of what your backer said and tell your side. Right now it seems like a pretty one sided thing and doesnt seem like your backer did much wrong,but if he did or there was some lies or stuff he left out I would definitely share that info if I was you. This is obviously a crappy situation that I'm sure you both want to resolve, and if you guys are looking to get the best advice from the community the best way is to make sure all the information is out there.

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05-20-2016 , 11:38 PM

#29

Zima421

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Originally Posted by jclan5

Throughout this whole process I was very willing to work with him to figure out the best/fastest way we could resolve the issue. He wasn't interested in that whatsoever. All he wanted to do was exploit the fact that I admitted to stealing in the first place. What I did was so wrong. Was very wrong and I intended to pay him back every $.
We agreed that he wouldn't post this or make public. This is a situation that should be handled between both parties. He reached out too other people not involved and involved them against our terms. He's now asking to see what everyone thinks I should pay him after the fact we already agreed upon a figure that was more then fair.
if he didn't like our terms he shouldn't have agreed to them. Now he's asking everyone what they think I should pay him..exploiting the situation to get the most $ back.

uh, no

scammers need to be outed. hopefully you wont be able to scam anyone in the future.

swallow your pride, pay back the money you stole and move on. blaming him for this/that/whatever is all a joke. you stole money, repay him and move on.

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07-19-2016 , 01:10 PM

#30

gettym

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OP, did you really already agree to terms on what he would pay back and then reneg on the deal?

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09-09-2016 , 09:10 PM

#31

NicholasJ

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Isn't it shady to secretly stake a guy in the same cash game as you?

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09-15-2016 , 11:42 AM

#32

Punker

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Originally Posted by jclan5

Throughout this whole process I was very willing to work with him to figure out the best/fastest way we could resolve the issue. He wasn't interested in that whatsoever. All he wanted to do was exploit the fact that I admitted to stealing in the first place. What I did was so wrong. Was very wrong and I intended to pay him back every $.
We agreed that he wouldn't post this or make public. This is a situation that should be handled between both parties. He reached out too other people not involved and involved them against our terms. He's now asking to see what everyone thinks I should pay him after the fact we already agreed upon a figure that was more then fair.
if he didn't like our terms he shouldn't have agreed to them. Now he's asking everyone what they think I should pay him..exploiting the situation to get the most $ back.

Have you paid back the figure you agreed to?

I don't care about terms or who he talked to. You admitted you stole it, you agreed to pay some amount back by your own post. Have you done so?

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09-15-2016 , 12:04 PM

#33

27AllIn

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Originally Posted by NicholasJ

Isn't it shady to secretly stake a guy in the same cash game as you?

This is a good point.

I agree with apokerplayer, $15k is a good number since it's unlikely he stole more than that.

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02-02-2017 , 04:34 PM

#34

Rukagid1985

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I'm a former poker dealer and occasionally play poker all over Oregon, including Portland. I just found out and confirmed with a few dealers and players that John Clancy was caught stealing another player's chips on camera several days ago in January 2017 at a poker club. He is banned from there and other clubs have been notified so he will likely be banned from all Portland poker clubs. After everything that's happened, he continues to steal. Some people never learn.

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02-02-2017 , 07:19 PM

#35

ICrushSNGs22

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Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 580

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Originally Posted by ChoakMyDee

I feel stupid for asking this but why does a winning player need to be staked? Assuming he's a winning player, why would he want to go from keeping 100% of his winnings to keeping 50%?

Also, **** you to all the haters in this thread. The OP feels bad enough without being chastised.

If there's no coaching involved then "being bad with money" is the most common reason. I'm through this myself. If the player in question spends more money than he wins (if he was honest at least) then it also might be a way to control himself from playing games he's underrolled for or whatever.

Also, the player in question got (that's my opinion and I could be wrong there) an extremely good deal. If I was him, I would play every single day having this deal. Even a breakeven player could make a good living earning 25% no matter how deep they are in MU (depending what one considers a good living though) in NL1K games

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02-07-2017 , 09:23 PM

#36

NicholasJ

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Originally Posted by Rukagid1985

Confirmed this happened.

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11-09-2017 , 05:07 PM

#37

Triplerangemerge22

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Update: I've received no money from John Clancy since I posted this thread. In fact, we have had zero communication (outside of this thread) since I've posted, even though he has my email, my phone number, other ways to contact me, and can contact me here as well. I will update this thread ASAP if John ever decides to pay me back.

John Clancy recently final tabled a big tourney within the last couple months. He won several grand, but I had to find out through some friends. Obviously I didnt receive a penny of it. I'm moving on with my life. I don't ever expect to get any money back.

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