i'm stunned there are people who play low stakes mtts staked for a living

More ad hominem/whataboutism, more deflection

I will leave you guys with this, yet again:

From calistyle: https://gyazo.com/261ff96767fa36d3bea39dfe8f4dd82f

And I will ask you all once again:

If this is not representative and you truly apologize, then why did you not come on here and apologize? Why did you switch your views and play the blame game?

Why is a kidnapper holding something that doesn't belong to him for ransom until his DEMANDS are met? I thought Jesse was a changed man but the FACTS say otherwise.

Lol funny, but I demand you stop detracting from the fact that it has been 7 pages and the so called "good guys" have not yet responded to the topic at hand. Also Chance violated the terms of this forum by publicly releasing my name and a link to my name, so I'd prefer if you'd stop referring to that violation.

Instead they have doubled down on the racism and doubled down on blaming me.

riginally Posted by boliver View Post
.calling him a Nazi, ....you being completely out of line
and downright mean.

" childhood development all play a critical role besides just having genes for being stupid" also from Bolly
So yet, i ask again:

https://gyazo.com/261ff96767fa36d3bea39dfe8f4dd82f


If this is not representative and you truly apologize, then why did you not come on here and apologize? Why did you switch your views and play the blame game?

I mean I don't really care what happens in any of this, but is firing this Jeremy dude for being openly racist even an option that 3 amigos would even consider? Doesn't sound like it, but it can't be good for business. It seems like the attitude is more like you just have to ignore all the racist stuff he says or talk about something else lol.

If they don't even acknowledge anything was done wrong, other than their apology, which they have walked back, then I don't see them doing anything along those lines.

Additionally, the comments they have made, since only show they accept and promote this kind of behavior.

i don't think you're very much in the right here man OP

OP, if you're a libertarian (which I am as well), wouldn't you just want to put the onus on yourself? Be extremely nitty with life savings, save up, take your own action, win money, move up in stakes yourself? Then there's no issue?

Why do you need a backer to give you permission to do things if you can win and do all this stuff yourself?

I think if these stables want to do various things with their money, that's their choice. You probably should mostly respect that. You should also figure out a way off of it if you don't respect the decision process to do better for yourself as well.

We apologized for what he said, handled the situation internally, and deleted the politics chat after you made us aware of his comments. We all agreed he was wrong.

You yourself seemed rational once you got control of your emotions

https://gyazo.com/103366643842471fa7400ddf786b5a95

Fast forward one day later to the Christmas message you left Jeremy. Is this your idea of professionalism? I see an antagonizer.

https://gyazo.com/2e3779ba9a5bc34d1858e33cc80f7920

https://gyazo.com/4d9c2c7274140576262b3019e0ddd1d4

Here you are a couple of days later FINALLY trying to put a period on this. You even apologize for your dealings in the situation and admit wrongdoings.

https://gyazo.com/edd98a743e5ccc63f81a012741b19d49


Jesse, you conveniently got topped up right before you left our chats and posted this smear campaign. We would like our money to be paid back asap. People can sort through this and make their own assumptions about the situation. Chapter closed in my book.

You did not apologize. Brian (BHO) apologized, and then both him and the other Brian (Bollywood/Boliver) walked it back within minutes. Then all three of you came on here, did not even acknowledge the blatant,
malicious racism and targeting (other than saying "he needled you") and proceeded to smear me and blame me, time and again.

A) BHO walking it back within minutes and blaming me. B) BHo claiming im looking for an argument. C) BHO claiming this were my decision. Yes it was my decision, AFTER, I spent countless hours dealing with a racist, who
maliciously targeted me and prevented me from playing (earning money for myself and for you guys). You even acknowledge that I came to you SEVERAL times about Jeremy. D) Bolly making excuses. E) I took the onus for my part.
But as bosses it was your choice to CONTINUALLY ignore what I was saying in favor of your friend. I tried to move forward. He did not.

B) https://gyazo.com/ca01d869986cdf601ceb5c92c6703ea2

C) https://gyazo.com/14e49c52c0d66d94557e409f22b63147

D) https://gyazo.com/5a651b523a6d844bacb85b81581ff5fe

E) https://gyazo.com/103366643842471fa7400ddf786b5a95

Bolly Quote, "While I feel the need to defend Jeremy against your slander and attacks of calling him a Nazi, racist, and accusing him of stolen valor
- this would be posting more screenshots of you being completely out of line and downright mean. Just give it up man, and move on."

https://gyazo.com/047f41e04affde62cf30bed2e1af8bce **

Why do you feel the "need" to defend Jeremy, when it is obvious he is a racist and he thinks some people are, and I quote "Of lower IQ and have **** hygeine" and he
hopes sarcastically that this doesnt happen??: https://gyazo.com/600cd1cffefd356ede6d9993b536ca5e

And yet, I am the one who is, "downright mean." Cmon now, I think you guys should give it up.


Rama quoted "2) Racist comments: Yes, the accountant (Jeremy) it's known for his racist comments/jokes."

"The last year has been quite a weird year for many especially those still living in the US. No issues outside of this situation was brought to our attention
,but it’s very plausible that other things are taking place right now in Jesse’s life and we respect that."

Chance's first post, which 1. Shared my full name, knowingly violating 2p2's terms that anonymity is required and a post to crime that I did not even committ, while claiming
I did, to sway everyone's opinion.

With all the lies you have told, am I the irrational one? You guys were tilted and you came on here to smear me. I am not smearing you. I am exposing you for how you treat people.

https://gyazo.com/00baa80b4ec8176e78a184bab7b023c2
https://gyazo.com/52c7afd3941261bc7e3a4a5289e203ca (Bolly quote about how he thinks some people have stupid genes) From within another posts where he blames me for being "mean," and calims he "feels the need" to defend his friend from "slander"

They are not being slandered here. I am.

Blame blame blame. Deflect deflect deflect.


As stated previously, within this own thread, I apologized to keep things moving along, to keep things professional, so that the guy wouldn't hold things against me. You and him and others
can make excuse after excuse for him, but does anyone honestly believe that someone who thinks that immigrants are this, really buy into the fact that he was professional at ANY time?

https://gyazo.com/047f41e04affde62cf30bed2e1af8bce ** (Same screen as asteriks above)


https://gyazo.com/edd98a743e5ccc63f81a012741b19d49


A) Oh wow, what an indictment! I finally got topped up, after not playing for a couple weeks. 1. Due to it being a Christmas vacation and 2. Due to avoiding the Nazi who liked to play games, made it an extremely
uncomfortable situation in my many dealings with him, and prevented me from playing.
B) And they wished to sweep this under the rug so many times, they were even willing to do the wrong thing and lie about it, time and again. So, they came on here and wished to get as many people as possible with them to smear me, erroneously, and in any fashion they saw fit, to get this done and over with and get "their" money back asap.
This is why they apologized to me, but onlyafter I told them I was going public, while disregarding my repetitive attempts. But then, they came on here and not once has there been an apology. There has been blame, hate, and tilt filled raged at me for telling the truth.

I don't think so. There are some things you need to do, and unfortunately I believe it is too late for that, because:

1. You have not come out here and publicly apoligized
2. Instead, you came out here and actually "smeared" me, by
A) Claiming I was lying about going to prison and making fun of a crime I didn't even committ, by falsely claiming I did committ it. (Do you guys see the games these guys play?)
B) Blamed me
C) Avoided all talk about the obvious racism and unscrupulous connections you have with him.



Rama quoted, "In this case, instead of focusing on the things that Jeremy and I disagree on, I choose to keep the chat light and focus on the stuff we do share, such as music, movies or TV Shows."

Which, is exactly what I do and did as a libertarian, but it was only up until the point where it:
https://gyazo.com/e0a97df6f3fb572428db8563f93ec828 Quote from myself, in my message to the bosses around Dec 23rd. And this is the crux of the situation. Jeremy infringed upon my time and earning potential.
And I repetitively told the bosses about this. They have even acknowledged this here, even if they want to lie about it later.

I even made excuses for the man, coming from a military family and understanding people
who are TRULY racists have issues, with which needed to be dealt. However, there came a point in time where too much time had been wasted, too much disrespect for myself (and for themselves) had happened, and enough was enough.

Quote/SS from "derp" who sees through your deflection. "It is truly astonishing the number of 2p2'ers criticizing OP for theft, while completely ignoring the racist hate coming from that stable . Just another reason I find myself visiting 2p2 less and less."

Does anyone who is reading this, now see how my time was wasted and why I am charging the Nazi gang for my time? As much as I do like to make Ayn Rand proud up in Heaven, (Bless her soul) and like to set reality straight,
I do not like to deal with negative people or negative topics ad nauseum. I'd much rather spend my time doing other things.

With that being said; I have issued my demands, stipulations, offers, (whatever you would like to call them), but I highly doubt they will be accepted. They are as follows:

1. Each of you will issue an apology on YouTube and it will be linked here and on Reddit and Craiglist or any other forum I see fit to post. I will word the content for you. You do not have to show your faces,
and I will even allow you to stay anonymous.
2. Each of you will do 10 hours of community service in your communities. BHO can do his in, whichever way he sees fit, as well as Rama. Bollywood, Chance, and Jeremy will both do theirs in the hispanic communities
of their choosing. But videos will need to be uploaded, as proof. Jeremy will do 20 hours. Additionally, he will donate a months worth of food to 3 families in Tijuana.
3. Then he can continue working with you guys, after this has been done.
4. You will pay me for my time and earning potential, which you have wasted. If you do this, then all makeup will be paid, IF I continue to play poker or WHEN I continue to play poker.
5. I will make donations to communities for all races and I will upload SS's and videos to serve as proof.
**Forgot this one:
6. You will ask for all the posts blaming me and smearing me to be deleted. Additionally, you will not continue your smear campaign at any time or makeup money will not be sent back to you and will instead be donated within my community, or any community I happen to be in.
This will close the chapter for you and clear you of your wrong doing.

So just to understand this correctly: You admit that you are currently keeping money that does not belong to you while pressuring people to do certain activities in order to get back what legally belongs to them. Correct?


Easy live when you can be the accuser and judge at the same time but I am not sure if reality works like that.

Isn't it ironic that you make extremely long self-righteous posts ITT while simultaneously holding money that does not belong to you hostage?

No, my time is being charged in a different capacity, as I told them several times and for wages lost. Additionally, I am not seeking any other damages, as previously stated.
Reality does in fact work like this, because unfortunately we are not under US jurisdiction where I can appropriately report them to the BBB (or the appropriate agency).

Furthermore, they have come out here and publicly defamed my name and slandered me by claiming I committed I crime I did not, to further their agenda of accepting racism and discrimination.
I do believe, there is legal recourse for this sort of thing.

And no, I know that the term irony has neither nothing to do with the length of a post, nor your feelings about the morality of the post. Instead, irony deals with the content of statements.
Let's start there if we will.

You two will be disregarded/ignored from now on if you do not provide any objective outlook and/or any new subjective thoughts.

Mods should lock this thread as all parties have made their points.

OP is unhinged and wouldnt surprise me if hes either in a manic phase or sliding dangerously close to paranoid delusion/persecution complex. Just look at the length of his posts..

Keeping this thread open is just egging him on. Its probably not good for his mental health to engage with him. If I knew OP personally and saw this thread I would be worried.

Yeah it’s just the same crap over and over. All this whining and it seems not many people agree with the OP. All parties should part ways and just move on from each other. Once money is returned of course.

It may be a little more than 20 dollars but I think the stables best option is to just chalk this one up as a loss and move on. I wouldn't want anything to do with Jesse, he's clearly in a manic state and losing his marbles. And no matter what Jesse says about wanting an apology before he returns the money, he's never going to give the money back. He's already said he feels entitled to it because he is retroactively charging for his time being wasted. Apologizing wouldn't change any of that. And the stable has already apologized. So now Jesse has a list of demands about moral restitution, doing community service in the latino community, yada yada yada. Even if they did that Jesse wouldn't return the money. He's a thief but I'd rather not have anything to do with him anymore if I were the stable owners. Let Jesse be shunned from the poker community.

I agree mods should lock this thread, nothing more to see here in my opinion.

I wouldn’t let him keep the money. Just not an option. Letting entitled people get their way just makes this world worse.

The last thing I want to say before quitting this AIDS of a thread is that Tres Amigos looks like a real stand up crew and probably one of the better ones to work for. Very patient, mature and professional- their accountant notwithstanding. OP on the other hand looks worse and worse with every incoherent post and demand that he makes and it's pretty clear this whole thing was fabricated as a preemptive strike when he'd made the decision to steal from them. He knew there was going to be a thread about him so he tried to get in front of it.

As far as I'm concerned their reputation is intact, while OP's true colors are showing. He's calling them racist bigots, yet they allowed a Mexican felon into their circle with open arms as well as wallets and he thanked them for their trust by doxing the whole crew and stealing a substantial amount of money. To me that's just the lowest of the low and I have no sympathy for any pos who'd do such a thing.

I would've had a lot more solidarity with you OP if you'd come here right after the racist comments were made and told the crew to go f*ck themselves along with the MU. Instead you basically kissed their "racist" asses so you'd get topped up and then tried to play a butt-hurt hero to justify the theft. Except you don't come off as a hero, but a whore who steals the wallet from her john right after he gave her a fat tip.
Shame on you.

I have made my points and people (like those above) above have either chosen to see them and respond or to resort to verbal attacks (too many to link ).

Now, I do have a solution. So, I ask the mods to leave this thread open, so that I may post in the coming days.

Thank you


https://gyazo.com/dfd8e4c1e83f8bcdb51893af6cb8f734
https://gyazo.com/fed17b2e880175f15eb67c5149c223e4
https://gyazo.com/047f41e04affde62cf30bed2e1af8bce

Jesse had a unpleasant and unproductive experience.
Imagine someone coming to your country and disrespect your people.
Someone disrespected the horses mother and family while being in his country and eating tacos. And Jesse was supposed to make money for the team. Thats not cool.

I do not know what made Jeremy think that way. But if he hated the Mexican people, where he lives now, he should go somewhere else, to Ireland maybe. Where everything is clean and safe, and he can eat irish stew. And call himself the 3rdreich staking. No more quesedillas, tacos, buritos, coronas or tequilas. No more latinas or whatever. When you in Ireland had stone caves they built pyramides. Its no wonder the food is much better than yours. And the war on drugs is not exactly a mexican invention.

My Idea:

Jessy is currently in makeup (5000), and has 2500 left in his accounts so basically he owes 7500USD.

These events however prevented him to earn money right before the holidays. Was it 2 weeks that you lost Jesse? What does 3 amigos offer? Fine of 500 for Jeremy, so he learns his lesson? 100 for each day lost? Or let him play these last bullets and see how he does?

Jessy is a violent criminal who concocted a scheme to defraud and has issued threats of violence in support of that scheme. Your supporting him.

At this point its safe to assume money is already gone thus his commitment to write nonsense continue

Yes, you would assume poker players wouldn't make so many assumptions and hate/emotion based decisions; however it goes to show you the lengths people will go to protect their personal identities:

Originally Posted by CaliStyle View Post
It would be far too cumbersome ....

April 4th, 2020 - Jesse mentions he was having an issue with the way Jeremy was handling things .....

Dec 22nd, 2020 - First time we are made aware of any issue regarding derogatory or racist comments.......
Obviously Jeremy could of been more PC and professional .....
I find what I have pointed out to be factual with Jesse .....
I addressed the issue the moment I was made aware of it and you are not representing the situation accurately if you are saying this was an ongoing problem that you presented to me prior to January 8th.
End Quote

Even when confronted with contradictions and lies, they will still continue to make assumptions and respond with anger/hate and more lies.

I was wrong about one thing washoe and I think you know what that it is now. I have reconsidered and I will accept some for of mediation, once the BOL funds are cleared. With that being said, I will post updates later on the other part of my plan.

Thank you and have a wonderful day.

OP, you're trying to show this stable how mexicans are nice trustworthy people by... stealing their money?

I would really feel more comfortable if Jesse Smollett here could make a YouTube video publicly stating that his criminal actions of larceny and attempted extortion are to in no way shape or form be representative of the Mexican people.