Looks like OP ended up being exposed instead

Nazi boy's full name please. And any criminal/military record would be of utmost relevance here. Instead of painting the picture you want to paint. Also, I will respond to this smear below after I have had time to read and dissect.

First and foremost for anyone reading who has eyes to see and ears to hear, let us read what Nazi boys best boy friend for life and cover boy has to say here:

"The last year has been quite a weird year for many especially those still living in the US. No issues outside of this situation was brought to our attention but it’s very plausible that other things are taking place right now in Jesse’s life and we respect that. We don’t wish any ill will on Jesse and would like to resolve this issue with him and go our separate ways at this point and truly hope that everything works out for him moving forward."

Wtf is this and how you can even think this has any relevance is beyond me. Really reaching for straws here bro.
1. What is happening in the world has no bearing on your actions nor mine. Nor does it excuse you for the cover up.
2. I've spent the last 3 years grinding poker and before that 3 years learning about life. So not really sure what any of that has to do with this still.
3. You wish to resolve this issue. Hmmm... you mighta wanted to resolve the issues the several times you saw your Nazi boyfriend discriminating against all races besides white. You mighta wanted to resolve the issue when I came to you several times about the Nazi boyfriend. You mighta not thought the **** he said was funny. But you didnt.

NUMBER 4 AND MOST IMPORTANTLY
WHY ARE YOU NOT RESPONDING TO THE BLATANT AND CONTINUED RACISM????!!!!?? WHY WHY WHY?????
#5 WHY DID YOU THINK HIS BEHAVIOR WAS FUNNY AND ALLOW HIM TO CONTINUE TO TARGET MEXICAN PEOPLE, ALL WHILE YOU AND HIM LIVE IN MEXICO. WHY???? THATS THE POINT OF THIS ALL IN CASE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND. WHY? OR DO YOU WISH TO DEFLECT MORE????
So yea in case you didn't notice I already resolved the issue. That's why you are in here right now playing clean up. Perhaps you should have done that before instead of now bringing up stuff from 7 years ago like it has any relevance.

Let's put Nazi Boy's full name out here and see what we see or are you afraid of that? You cant have it both ways bro.


p.s. I find it absolutely hilarious that in one sentence he says "I claim to have been locked up for 4 years and have affiliations" as if Im lying about it. But then his ENTIRE POST is about smearing my character by having a criminal history. Which is it. Make up your mind.
This is why
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

I repeat. Those who have eyes will see.

You are right about the first part of your post, but wrong about the second part.

Cool story. Others see it different.

You completely disregard the blatant racism because you see a post about 7 years ago to base your decision. I can see your head is in the right place and you judge people on who they are today.

You don’t get to dictate which members of the stable you want to interact with. You do have the ability to quit the stake if you’re unhappy with the staking arrangement(under the confines of the contract).

If you don’t like your boss you can quit but you can’t say “you’re racist and you wasted my time, I’m just gonna take $1500 out of the register for my troubles”

So because one guy did a racism and may have stolen valor you went full frito bandito on the MU you owe and their money that's still in your accounts? Is that just in the mind of a sane man?
Edit: OP is an unhinged maniac who actually needs some kind of help.

OP is a thief

There were just so many inaccuracies and inconsistencies in Chance's (bbf of Nazi boy) to point out in a short reply. I wanted to get a reply out asap, because 1. I have nothing to hide (they do) 2. Letting it sit there unanswered only lends credibility to their bullshit.

1. I addressed this in the first post, but this is the most important so let's start here. Why do you think it is Chance did not address the racism and any posts where I approached them in group chat to deal with it?

2. A) I addressed this as well. But why does he draw attention to my criminal record, but then make his little ***** boy snide comments like this?
"The only crimes he committed we can find on public record took place in 2018 which was only 3 years ago and those were two misdemeanor charges while he was in Portland, Oregon." Not true. If you actually look at that link those were not crimes committed you illiterate dumbie. They charged me, erroneously, and then later dropped the charges, because they knew I did not commit the crime. Nice try tho.

B) "Jesse also makes a claim that he was in jail/prison for 4 years and has gang affiliated ties in which he made thinly veiled threats of extreme violence in his posts"

Imagine having to prove you went to prison. If you would like to know the other stint I did, then i guess ill have to prove that for the "thug life" too eh?

"Thinly veiled threats of extreme violence" Thinly veiled or extreme violence? I already addressed this before and if I wanted to I wouldn't have said a word to you guys about, but that is clearly not my intention. Nice attempt at deflection, yet again.

It makes it seem true if you just write everything up neat and put a spin on it doesnt it?!?!?!?! Well, no, not exactly bubby. Nice try again though.

3. I apologized for my part. Yes I did. Why did I do that? Because I knew the racist Nazi boyfriend of yours was gonna hold it against me. Which he did time and time again. I wanted to move forward professionally, he did not.
https://gyazo.com/4381270f2fc6a40c9e1c95412f93959c Pretty sure he wasn't gonna change his mind about stoning people he deems as low iq though lol. https://gyazo.com/d59d5231a688bc9daeb6756559b259bc Guys who think Adolf Hitler was a great guy and want a white America typically don't let those things go. Also, someone who tells you how valuable their time is while they are wasting your time and telling you how "they despise it" typically dont let go of that despising. https://gyazo.com/047f41e04affde62cf30bed2e1af8bce
From someone else in the group who understand Nazi boy get's upset and holds grudges. https://gyazo.com/febc7c4b4c0c909dfe9aec2e03b085ae

This doesn't surprise me though, because you think this behavior is funny. https://gyazo.com/3b534f4acc4c72f97240b2bd994d0041

Furthermore and although, your post is amusing and misleading, you haven't even addressed the elephant in the room. You haven't addressed why you allowed your Nazi bbf say the things he said and continue to needle people with that kind of talk. Why is it you only managed to grow a pair of balls when I told you enough is enough and I was going public? Why is it BHO came to me and apologized, but then you guys walked it back?


Also, what is your Nazi BBF full name, so we can dissect his past history.

For anyone reading this, yes I did some questionable things in the past. Some I did and some I didnt do. Unfortunately, it is the way our legal system works. Kinda a big part of why we had all of this upheaval about unfair treatment by police and the justice system over the course of the past few years, ya know?

But, for 7 years I have been out of trouble with US law. If you want to judge me and throw the first stone, because of that, then it is on you.

Additionally, if you think the racist who despises you only did this on one occasion and for one hour, then God help you.

Your a thief OP. Criminals always rationalize.

Please address the actual facts and statements made instead of calling names. You're a simpleton for that response. Simpletons always think they have great takes.

@dipandglide There were many many things you did not address in your attack on my character. Perhaps your moniker has something to do with your evasion and your deflection, which was an attack on my character, from SEVEN years ago. If anyone
who is reading this, thinks that has any bearing on what is going on, then God help you.
If you do not see this as clear and blatant deflection, then God help you.

I have compiled a condensed list of things which Chance should answer, starting with the most important. I take his deflection as clear admittance they were in the wrong and instead of engaging in legitimate, honest discord - why i would think they would when they failed so many times before is beyond me but oh well - he engages in Whataboutism and ad hominem attacks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism / https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
So here are still the questions you have refused to answer, thus far.

1. Why is it you allowed racism to be dispersed and vehemently propogated
for many years at your stable?
2. What is Jeremy's last name?
3. Why is it when I brought to your attention the kind of person, Jeremy, had
been/and has been acting like you disregarded it and wrote it off as "thats just the way he is?"
or "dont mess with the money man?" or "he feels slighted very easily?"
4. Why is it you allowed this type of talk coming from a friend, while you
and him live in Mexico and you have several members of your group of latin/hispanic
decent?
5. Is it because he is your friend? And he lives or has lived in one of your places?
6. Why is it when I brought it to your attention several times later that year
that you wrote it off as a difference of opinion/political differences?
(Note for everyone.. this is all that it really is in essence a difference of
belief and I even said so, but we all know that it is hatred and that it is
an aggressive/assaulting type of talk) To disregard it is an acceptance and
cooperation with it.
7. Why is it in your first post you did not address any of the above?
8. Why is it that BHO came to me later and apologized emphatically
and made a point for it not to reflect on you guys?
9. Why is it that when BHO got tilted and I asked for bolly, that
he flip flopped on the apology and then began to blame me again
for saying "atrocious things" as if it were my fault?
10. Why does it matter if I spent 4 years in prison (which I did check the above link) and for what crimes? As if me lying about prison time somehow validates your argument? (Also I never said I had gang affiliations)
What I said was that I know plenty of sureños and latin kings, so if I were threatening you violence, then I certainly would not be posting to discord or on the internet. This is not thinly veiled threats. This is me saying
the exact opposite, in fact. That i was not threatening him.
11. Why is it that you have not giving Jeremy's name?
12. Why do you think 2020 and Covid have anything to do with this? Lol jk
it doesnt, but if you want to answer it then that is cool and likely amusing, as well.

Bonus Question worth $50 and 100 karma points, but only if you answer honestly: Why is it that it took you 2 days to respond and you didn't even address any of the above?

Also guys, I ask that you don't, but my hopes arent high, that you leave this thread here on this page so we can get all of the above answered.
p.s. I was planning to send some money back today, but unfortunately nobody is cooperating with me at this time. I will send screens later when they come around to it.
https://gyazo.com/a123d9a839bccb1ec37d5ce63f3bcf9f

Either steal the money or don't, we don't care. Rationalizing it to 2p2 isn't going to help you sleep better at night or make you a good person.

What I understand from this so far. Carlton the Kidnapper has severe race identity issues as he's mostly white with a hint of Mexican so in prison he was never white enough for the aryan brotherhood and not even close to latino enough for the cholo gangs. After his release being such a social pariah and highly undesirable to prospective employers both from criminal record and lack of any skilled trade he took to his computer in efforts to make money. After a few years of playing donkaments and taking em real seriously he got pretty decent at winning flips but historically being a man who lacks discipline would find himself perpetually busto and needed support. Entrar Tres Amigos~
With the recent political climate he fell hook line and sinker into the divisive media narrative of "right vs left" "us vs them" that plays so perfectly on the white guilt that's been a haunting theme throughout his life. Now that the programming is complete whenever he sees what he views as right leaning racist talking points he gets very emotional and takes it personally back to the countless times in his life he was never enough for a particular group.

I'd say this could be the Queens Gambit poker equivalent series idea but the main character is such a piece of garbage it would be horrible for the game lol.

Hi, this is boli/bollywood. While I feel the need to defend Jeremy against your slander and attacks of calling him a Nazi, racist, and accusing him of stolen valor - this would be posting more screenshots of you being completely out of line and downright mean. Just give it up man, and move on. I sent you 2 days ago on skype, as you've blocked me multiple times on discord now - these are the bitcoin addresses to cashout your accounts to:

ign- 3Kr3i2k7S8TK4EDaWweuH3EmCyGS4BDVBc

acr- 3BYfaLfj5BUwZtPqsLdgNDXmJX4iJvNgVB

bol- 3DCKECToKbhKfSNRXCp34evYEqrY5vFAD3

total invested being $7348.33 - $2671 being cash in accounts and $4677.33 being current MU

OP, you would've received a lot more sympathy if you'd just titled this thread appropriately, along the lines of "racism and intolerance within a poker stable", but instead you went with the clickbait option. You also would've been able to raise so much stink over racism and the emotional damage it's caused you that the stable would've been happy to proactively clear your make up and to release you just so you'd stfu already.

Instead you decided that "having your time wasted" is the more pressing issue and that you're going to arbitrarily charge them for it by keeping the stake, which is just laughable.

See, there's a pretty good reason why instead of being outraged by the blatant racism, everyone is focusing on the fact that this whole thing is just a ploy to steal from your employer/partner.

It's pretty clear that you're a very emotional and irrational person, so it actually saddens me to watch you self-destruct like this when it's kind of obvious that you'll be regretting it tomorrow. You had a pretty sweet deal playing risk-free from home during covid, but you're throwing it all away because of what some rando said about your race on the internet?

You shouldn't let people get to you like this and you shouldn't let your ego get in the way of eating. If you've managed to sell yourself into slavery (aka poker horse) you shouldn't expect them to treat you like a prince. You're just an asset and nobody gives a sh*t about your time, so either suck it up and keep pushing or pay them back and move on with your head held up high, but if you steal from them you'll be the dirt under the nails of their racist accountant.

Be a man and make your race proud by proving him wrong.

As the oldest active player of Three Amigos stable (been with them since July 2016 iirc, for the most part of my professional poker career), felt that my testimony can add some value to this discussion.
I haven't talked to any of the bosses about this subject and what I'll say in this post is my own opinion and doesn't represent the views of the bosses or the stable.

I think it's pretty clear to most of you reading this what's going on here: Jesse decided to leave the stable while in MU and tried to blame it on this Jeremy situation to justify his decision and don't come across as a plain thief.

With regards to the two issues brought by Jesse on his op:

1) The "bait and switch" allegedly done by the bosses: As I said, I've been playing for Three Amigos for over 4 years, and I can't be happier with my experience at the stable: is hard to say where I would be right now in my poker career and in my life if it wasn't for their confidence and constant help and guidance not only in poker but in life in general. The bosses are fair, transparent and flexible, and after reading some of the stuff that goes on in other stables, I cant imagine myself playing anywhere else.
I was always happy with the limits I've been allowed to play, and this comes from someone that started playing for them $11 tournaments and $3,5 r+a on stars, having poker as my sole income in a country far away from home, having to make all my ends meet with the 50% left after chopping the profits. I always assumed that I had a lot to learn on the poker world and trusted the bosses/coaches assessment of my skill level.
Nowadays as a matter of fact, I'm reminded regularly by them that I can and should move up on stakes and that I'm playing lower than what I could.

I understand that not everyone has the same approach as myself when it comes to poker, but I do think that the bosses are quite flexible and understanding when it comes to stakes and shot taking, and I'd bet that the vast majority of the players (to not say all) that I saw come and go over these past years can agree to the same.

2) Racist comments: Yes, the accountant (Jeremy) it's known for his racist comments/jokes. As someone born and raised in South America that has a thai girlfriend and that from all the players on the stable is probably the one whose political stance is more on the left, I should be the first one to feel offended/attacked by some of the memes he post or the jokes he makes. Nevertheless, I've learned over the years that not everyone you meet in life is going to have the same beliefs as you, and you have to make an effort to find common ground and be tolerant about other people thinking different than you.

In this case, instead of focusing on the things that Jeremy and I disagree on, I choose to keep the chat light and focus on the stuff we do share, such as music, movies or TV Shows.
Without getting too carried away, I feel this is something that a lot of folks should try to do in similar cases when dealing with friends, family members or coworkers that might think different than them about certain political topics, instead of antagonizing and focusing on the few things that you disagree on.

Also, this all took place in a stable (aka work environment) and not in a social group. As all of you should know, in order to get the job done, you might have to deal with people on the workspace that you wouldn't deal with in your personal life, but is unavoidable so it's important to not let personal or political stuff get on the way of professional matters.

Is fair to say too that all my professional interactions with Jeremy have been great, and that he's an excellent accountant working in a professional and timely manner.

To wrap this post up, I'll say that is a shame to see Jesse take this line considering the times we talked he seemed like a good guy willing to learn and grow, but as Chance said, is hard to know what's going on in his life. Whatever it is, I hope he turn things around and can reflect on how his approach to this whole subject (if there is any subject so to speak) has been -to say the least- poorly handled.

This.

It is truly astonishing the number of 2p2'ers criticizing OP for theft, while completely ignoring the racist hate coming from that stable . Just another reason I find myself visiting 2p2 less and less.

So you think that making racial jokes or even downright being racist is worse than stealing? I find it astonishing that anyone would agree that OP is justified in stealing because he had to endure some racial comments.

I have never seen so many bad posters posting so many words saying so little in so many posts in such a short amount of time.

Cliffs notes:
racism bad
stealing bad
medication good
mediation unnecessary
less words good
less posts good
caps lock bad
bolded sentences bad


have a nice day good sirs.

Sos vos mas guero que yo loco. Tu no sabes nada de lo que ma han dicho.
If I were you I would just be quiet.

Been following the thread a little but it got quite confusing to the end.

So does anyone here really see a valid reason why it would be fine for Jesse to just steal the MU and leave?

OP is now threatening people. Nice. Poor innocent thief just can catch a break so now has to harm people. Not his fault people didn't see it his way.

Thank you for this. While funny, it does bring a light mood back to things. Which is where I like to keep it. There are kernels of truth in what you say, but what am I to do, but bold, repeat and post when they keep deflecting, deflecting, deflecting??

You have still yet to answer my question to you about your connection to BHO or other members of the Three Amigos. Let it be known, I already asked Simplerick of any connections he had, at the beginning, to which he denied. Then, I noticed he lives in LA where BHO lives and, THEN, I asked him if this were coincidence and, THEN, he decides to deflect that question and not answer. Awfully, suspicious


It was NOT and is NOT my intention to play the race card and seek emotional damage. Anyone who wants to see this can see, this is made abundantly clear. It is because they continued to harass, well still do, and continue to deny wrong doing, WHILE spewing hate and racism (except for the one time they apologized and then unapologized? a few moments later)

https://gyazo.com/fed17b2e880175f15eb67c5149c223e4

So i guess it is a combination, sure.

My job was to present the facts and let those with eyes to see and those with their biases to deflect and make excuses. It's pretty evident at this point who is who.


I'm not throwing it away. Im taking a stand. For all the people this ******* has shat upon. For all the people in stables whom have been shat upon by people like this. For all the people they have continued to disregard and all the people nazi boy continues to think he can look down upon, while living in their country, without any reprecussions.

And it wasn't a rando. It was an employee, whom having been employed by the owners, was allowed to manipulate, attack and assault (in my personal experience with them) for a year's time.

After they treated me like dirt, wasted a bunch of my time, after I approached them several times about the Nazi, they THEN only began to give a **** and give me the most insincere apology I've ever seen when I told them I am done playing games and I am going to be posting to 2p2, reddit/craigslist, whatever site necessary .
What were I to do? During the pandemic where at times we were completely locked down, where jobs were lost or replaced? Where I had a contract to fulfill? etc etc etc

Hi Bolly thanks for joining the group!

Ill choose one of these btc addresses (but you are using up more and more of your time and mine), since you continue to disrespect your time and my time and can't follow simple directions.

I, also, see you continue to play the blame game.

I am so sorry I was mean to the nazi by calling him what he is. How can you continue to defend this???:

https://gyazo.com/d7ddde15801255069bb2ef91d8ef40ed

Gonna have to work in descending order this time, since the deflection, and irrationalization is strong in this one:

1. I blocked you because I've said what I've needed to say to you and you are not my friend. I don't wish to have anything to do with you *******s anymore. I made that abundantly clear before I came here. I only do so out of necessity to set reality straight.

2. I am sorry for being mean to the nazi. You are right, it is my fault and I am to blame. Do i need to put /s so people don't really take me serious? Victimization much?

3. Are you really going to flipflop over and over to defend your nazi friend? Do you really think I am slandering this guy, who has called for "German Reunification? Who has said Adolf Hitler did great things? Who attacks every race besides white? Which is it? Are you guys sorry or not, because it sure seems like the latter.

https://gyazo.com/d7ddde15801255069bb2ef91d8ef40ed
https://gyazo.com/5d24d068b7bd9cae6114d0fef119ed0c

And I think it isn't me who should give it up. Now does everyone see who I am dealing with and why I am charging them for my time? This **** is not free folks. For you, for them or for me. But since, they don't care about mine, nor theirs, then there comes a point where the only thing they will listen to is: King Dollar.

And that's why we are here folks.

So far I have spent an hour here. While I do enjoy some aspects of this job, it is not one, which I would wish to continue to pursue. But again, I have told them they were being charged and I hope now, you see why.

Haha, I appreciate the humor and originality. You might win the award for most clever of the bunch. Although, I will have to reexamine the entries and content, before I hand out the final award.
Some truth to what you said, but I hear that's what makes comedy good. Kudos!

1. 2nd degree kidnapping, does not mean what you think it means. But again we aren't here to discuss that.

2. Ever hear of a mixed race? I can claim both. Most times I just put white/european for simplicity's sake. Im sure you have heard of a mixed race, you are a clever guy. Fwiw, my mother is mexican/mixed and my father is white, although he is above a 1/4 cherokee, so technically (i think at last check) I could claim Cherokee reparations, although I'm not going the Pelosi route ( and even with more claim!)
.
3. What do you want me to do now? After going public and knowing the majority would judge me, for what happened 7 years ago, and not the content of the situation, do you now want me to prove my ancestry?

What, do I need to take a 23andme blood test and post the results?



If I may quote you. But i would like to bold and italicize and underline, much to the dismay of at least one other poster.

It is truly astonishing

And I would like to add. It is also truly astonishing the amount of justification for Jeremy (who they have yet to publicly out (why is that?) and rationalization they have used to invalidate their points, or story I'd like to call it.

#WhoIsJeremy? Perhaps if this get's going as trending and a meme we could actually get somewhere?

Let's get back to the topic at hand, since these clever, little, nazi devils are so good at deflection. And should i not say clever, little, nazi devils anymore because it's mean and it gives them a chance to deflect more?

Jeremy Weaver keeps popping in my head. Does this ring a bell to anyone?

#AnswerTheQuestions
#WhoIsJeremy?

[QUOTE=mamelas;56834034]
Let's get back to the topic at hand
[/QOUTE]

Cool! So can you explain what exactly justifies to not pay back your markup and just leave?

I understand that working with racists is something stand up against and I support your points but I do believe it should be allowed for any organisation to reply and act based on accusations and so on.
I dont support racism and we have to stand up against it but that is just no justification to not pay back your MU.

So are you going to pay that money or no?