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01-10-2021 , 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Kebabkungen
Dude you havent posted a single proof that they didnt let you play... You posted one example where you whined that he didnt transfer money on time and he answered he had been busy...

If it is true that they breached your contract (you had a contract, right?) by consistently not transferring you money (not just being late one time) and thus leaving you unable to play and wasting your time, then you obviously have a case.

But right now its just your word and most of your original post is about outing the guy for being racist, not about giving us an understandable timeline of how they broke your staking agreement.
Ok, tell that to the judge?

If you think that if the guy was/is a racist and was a saint in all other regards, then I would say you might want to work on your hand reading skills.

And also, as I said many of the things were scrubbed by the Plunge Protection Team.
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01-10-2021 , 07:39 PM
nvm

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01-10-2021 , 07:46 PM
Terrible terrible people at 3 amigos.
Op how many horses do they have?
Be prepared to encounter and spot them here.

Change title to: Nazi stable operating out of Mexico.
I I think you said the Nazi cashier guy is bbfs with the owner/boss. is he living in mexico?
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01-10-2021 , 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo7
Please change the title to "Exposing myself as whiner (A story that nobody cares about)"
Ooh i like that one. Some originality here

Unfortunately, it seems you already read it so your opinion on the same story with another name might not be appealing to you. And I can no longer edit, so you will have to submit a request to a mod.
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01-10-2021 , 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
Terrible terrible people at 3 amigos.
Op how many horses do they have?
Be prepared to encounter and spot them here.

Change title to: Nazi stable operating out of Mexico.
Is the Nazi cashier guy bbfs with the owner/boss? is he living in mexico?
Yes they are bbfs and probably go way back. Afaik he lived or is currently living in the same location (a unit owned by one of the owners). And yes in Mexico. Rosarito to be exact.

And omfg your original title might have beat the one you were responding to hahahaha. If anything I had a good laugh thank you 2 for that.
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01-10-2021 , 07:57 PM
And yes I am well aware they will have plenty of character witnesses come in. Let it be what it may. Apparently you and I are the only ones with eyes to see so far. Although the others did recognize he is a racist, I dont think they understand the vindictive, manipulative nature this particular racist was going to.

Writing longer paragraphs than me. I know I can't believe im saying it either! But paragraphs filled with hate and much if it directed at me and my mother's people. Like i said that is all fine and dandy. Call it a difference of opinion, if you will and if you want to put it lightly. It is the problem he held a grudge against me the whole time would say things like this in reference to minorities: https://gyazo.com/4381270f2fc6a40c9e1c95412f93959c
and then fail to meet at agreed upon times, take up 2 hours of my time and then I wouldnt be able to grind and make money. That is the relevance here and if anyone misses that, then we just have to agree to disagree.
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01-10-2021 , 08:01 PM
Ahueboway amigo!
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01-10-2021 , 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by mamelas
Ooh i like that one. Some originality here

Unfortunately, it seems you already read it so your opinion on the same story with another name might not be appealing to you. And I can no longer edit, so you will have to submit a request to a mod.
You're right, that was mean. Post deleted
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01-10-2021 , 08:34 PM
You're not exposing much most people don't already assume.
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01-10-2021 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bozo7
You're right, that was mean. Post deleted
lol.. i honestly thought it was funny
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01-10-2021 , 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by inmyrav
You're not exposing much most people don't already assume.
Seems as if there is more to this than the one sentence.
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01-11-2021 , 04:10 AM
I’m lost. Anyone want to cliff what the f**k is going on here?!
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01-11-2021 , 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by mamelas
(his name is Jeremy, but I really don't even like to mention him by name other than to out him. Would like to get his last name at some point, because I will be posting to reddit/craigslist Tijuana/Rosarito)
Your best chance at getting his name might be to give the first and last names of anyone else involved in this venture in the hopes that it can be traced back to him.
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01-11-2021 , 05:05 AM
OP is complaining about the bait-and-switch when this whole f*cking thread is a bait-and-switch. Can we charge the op for wasting our time the same way he's charging his stable?

Mods, please change this deceptive title to "salty horse is looking for excuses to stiff his handlers" and move it out of here. I've never seen so little content in so many words.

OP, you're super cringe and they probably messed with you because of it, not because you're half Mexican. The only color the stables care about is green and if you burn them you will never get staked again, so think long and hard about your priorities in life.
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01-11-2021 , 05:17 AM
mamelas what's the race of the accountant? Maybe just make fun of his ethnicity in response to his racism? I think that was the correct play here. Tell me his race and I'll tell you what angle to take.

Also why would any good player want to be staked in the first place? Just play on your dime. That's part of being a good poker player is learning how to lose and dealing with variance. And you only play MTTs? Play cash games and be a man goddamnit!!!

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Originally Posted by Imposterous
I’m lost. Anyone want to cliff what the f**k is going on here?!
Cliffs: Accountant for the Three Amigos stable espouses racist views and OP as a half blood Mexican takes offense. And he thought he was being staked for 50s but had to play 30s.

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Originally Posted by mamelas
*additionally they will attempt to smear me and for good reason. They would like to deflect and not take responsibility. Yes, it is true I was a bad kid and I did some bad/questionable things in the past. I served my time in jails and prisons, but I haven't been in any trouble since. I've made new connections and do different things. Can everyone say the same?
Nah I've never been to jail or prison. My parents call me "The Ricky Christ" because I'm so perfect.
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01-11-2021 , 06:03 AM
i'm just stunned there are still people who play MTTs 'for a living'.
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01-11-2021 , 09:17 AM
My suggestion to you would be to read the contract you signed. You’ll realize that they made you aware of the fact they can change the games/stakes you’re allowed to play prior to the start of the stake.

The money in your poker accounts must be returned. If you keep some part of it and force them to compensate you for your time, that would be theft. The money does not belong to you.
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01-11-2021 , 09:48 AM
The accountant guy seems overly political and very unprofessional, but as you said yourself that doesn't reflect on the stable as a whole. And to be honest, if you get so riled up by some comments on Discord that it affects your play then perhaps poker isn't the game for you. Talking about keeping their money for your time and "emotional trauma" or whatever is also just ludicrous. Overall a very disappointing thread, OP.
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01-11-2021 , 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Any2Suited
The accountant guy seems overly political and very unprofessional, but as you said yourself that doesn't reflect on the stable as a whole. And to be honest, if you get so riled up by some comments on Discord that it affects your play then perhaps poker isn't the game for you. Talking about keeping their money for your time and "emotional trauma" or whatever is also just ludicrous. Overall a very disappointing thread, OP.
So if the CEO of a company make racist statements that's ok? What about the CFO? It's not just being political but being racist in the examples. Your take is pretty horrible IMO, we should all get "riled up" about racism, no matter who it is. It's never acceptable.
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01-11-2021 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BackingDonk
So if the CEO of a company make racist statements that's ok? What about the CFO? It's not just being political but being racist in the examples. Your take is pretty horrible IMO, we should all get "riled up" about racism, no matter who it is. It's never acceptable.
When did I ever say it was OK? Accountant's behavior is unacceptable, but so is OP threatening to keep money that isn't his because he thinks he's owed some sort of compensation.
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01-11-2021 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by NoControl
I've never seen so little content in so many words.
I got 3 paragraphs in and still had no clue what this is about so I checked out.

My advice to anyone writing up a long post like this is to write the first sentence or two as an overall summary. Kind of a like a thesis statement. If you care about optimizing the % of people that will read the whole thing.
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01-11-2021 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by NoControl
OP is complaining about the bait-and-switch when this whole f*cking thread is a bait-and-switch. Can we charge the op for wasting our time the same way he's charging his stable?

Mods, please change this deceptive title to "salty horse is looking for excuses to stiff his handlers" and move it out of here. I've never seen so little content in so many words.

OP, you're super cringe and they probably messed with you because of it, not because you're half Mexican. The only color the stables care about is green and if you burn them you will never get staked again, so think long and hard about your priorities in life.
No, I said specifically, the bait n switch only shows the shadiness. This is ofc subjective. I understand that. What is not subjective is that I had to deal with this racist who repeatedly wasted my time. In 2 hour blocks and by not either giving reloads to play sessions/ or by creating such a hostile environment I knew it would be unfeasible to approach the man to get a reload, because of the former sentence. This man has played manipulative game after game calling Mexicans lower IQ and they shouldnt be allowed in America and then you and I are to think Im not getting reloads because I'm cringe? Cringe is such a cringe word btw.
And yes you can charge me for the time, that's your choice. If we are doing business together you are more than welcome to bill me and make it retroactive.
Perhaps you have never dealt with a bank, an accountant, a tax man, credit companies?

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Originally Posted by SimpleRick
mamelas what's the race of the accountant? Maybe just make fun of his ethnicity in response to his racism? I think that was the correct play here. Tell me his race and I'll tell you what angle to take.

Also why would any good player want to be staked in the first place? Just play on your dime. That's part of being a good poker player is learning how to lose and dealing with variance. And you only play MTTs? Play cash games and be a man goddamnit!!!

Cliffs: Accountant for the Three Amigos stable espouses racist views and OP as a half blood Mexican takes offense. And he thought he was being staked for 50s but had to play 30s.

Nah I've never been to jail or prison. My parents call me "The Ricky Christ" because I'm so perfect.
Accountant is white and with a strong southern accent. He claims he is former military, but when I first met him, all he said was he was a former military contractor, but then later said he served in Afghanistan/Iraq. This may or not be true, but my intuition is based on his manipulation and lies that it could be false. I have an uncle who is a Lt. General in the Army rn and I could find out today if it is or isnt, given a last name.

The baitnswitch some ppl agree others dont. What I saw was 33s w DEFINITELY one 55 being include and we will talk about the others w "bol being meh" and acr" being okay." Then when I left the other stable to join it was "ummm seems to be some divergence lets look at some more HHs" Then anything above 33s is gambling even though I was top 5 in earnings on the site at the time. Pretty clear cut risk management imo.

But again this isnt even the main point.


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Originally Posted by The Apex
My suggestion to you would be to read the contract you signed. YouÂ’ll realize that they made you aware of the fact they can change the games/stakes youÂ’re allowed to play prior to the start of the stake.

The money in your poker accounts must be returned. If you keep some part of it and force them to compensate you for your time, that would be theft. The money does not belong to you.
I strongly disagree. I told them several times I will not be dealing with that guy and that they were going to be charge for my time after they continue (OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR) to let this guy run rampant on other people's time and money (but only WHENEVER he felt like it). I.e; when you disagreed with his radical political/ethical ideologies (racism/bigotry).

Only after I wasted about 6 hours of my time, plus a week of playing time over the course of the past 2 weeks and I spoke with BHO ad nauseum telling him I WOULD NO LONGER be dealing with this guy, and him saying " no cant you just do reloads" yadda yadda yadda did I decide they were wasting my time and their time and enough was enough.

You decide for yourself. I've already decided.

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Originally Posted by Any2Suited
And to be honest, if you get so riled up by some comments on Discord that it affects your play then perhaps poker isn't the game for you. Talking about keeping their money for your time and "emotional trauma" or whatever is also just ludicrous. Overall a very disappointing thread, OP.
Nobody ever said emotional trauma, so im not sure where the quotes are coming from.
Nor did anyone say get riled up.
It was the fact I literally could not play because the ******* would purposefully miss appointment times, make me wait 2 hours while listening to him espouse his superiority and the have him play his games in dms and in chat. He wasted my time and theirs. Time is money.
You call it ludicrous. I call it Justice.

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Originally Posted by BackingDonk
So if the CEO of a company make racist statements that's ok? What about the CFO? It's not just being political but being racist in the examples. Your take is pretty horrible IMO, we should all get "riled up" about racism, no matter who it is. It's never acceptable.
No it's not okay. If you could leave that company asap without any ties, then I would. And i would've done that here on many occasions.

Glad you brought this up, because a great example came to me. Say for instance this company had a non compete clause. Then you wouldn't be able to make money doing what you do, because the *******s prevented you from earning. Is this justifiable? Should you not seek compensation?

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Originally Posted by SrslySirius
I got 3 paragraphs in and still had no clue what this is about so I checked out.

My advice to anyone writing up a long post like this is to write the first sentence or two as an overall summary. Kind of a like a thesis statement. If you care about optimizing the % of people that will read the whole thing.
Some of your takes I have enjoyed through the years, unrelated to this. I wanted to get this out asap and therefore, put out as much info/details as i could (unfortunately as i said they scrubbed many of the dms and many of the racist remarks he made directed towards Mexicans). It was certainly not meant to be professionally written and i understand some ambiguity here.

Please check my 3rd or 4th post where I summarize everything.

Rn, they are waiting to release whatever they want to release. But they are waiting. Why do you think it is they are waiting?

An update on the situation:
https://gyazo.com/34ce1aea7ecfc0c93fe211a00ae85030

But keep in mind, when they came to me, as part of the Plunge Protection Team they were singing a different tune:
https://gyazo.com/9e3f37f102fb3ac1ff268c289e3367ab

Yet, they clearly only did this to persuade me to send all monies back.. Which I told them before. I will send what is owed, but you are wasting more and more time of mine. Right now I could be doing any number of things to make money. As could you guys. Time is money and only when you begin to charge people do they start to respect your time (if they operate under materialism, but this isn't a philosophical debate).

Ofc they would, this is no surprise to me. The problem is that they shouldve taken this no bullshit approach a long time ago and it woulda saved us all time and money. They waited too late.

For anyone who thinks I want to "steal," then ask yourself this. Why would I offer to send some money back? Why would I not hit n run, like so many individuals do who are staked, when I had 13k in my accounts earlier in the year or when I had 7k+ or why didnt I siphon off money before? Why would I correct the accountant many times when he made errors?

Note on the above. Notice how Bollywood places blame on me for insulting the guy (but only after they get tilted and they realized they ****ed up and I wasnt accepting their BS apology). Like the guy didnt come take a piss on my lawn and **** on my mother before with all his racist comments before. just lol just lol bro.

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01-11-2021 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mamelas
Note on the above. Notice how Bollywood places blame on me for insulting the guy (but only after they get tilted and they realized they ****ed up and I wasnt accepting their BS apology). Like the guy didnt come take a piss on my lawn and **** on my mother before with all his racist comments before. just lol just lol bro.
The bollywood guy even said he was somewhat on your side before reading the chats. He said you threatened violence and accused the guy of being a military imposter? lol. Can you link those chats?
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01-11-2021 , 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by freedom 35
The bollywood guy even said he was somewhat on your side before reading the chats. He said you threatened violence and accused the guy of being a military imposter? lol. Can you link those chats?
Yes, he was on my side, knowing that the guy is a joke and a racist, but he never spoke up and they all swept it under the rug, during my whole stint.
I cannot because I had taken about 20 screens+, but in my rush to post this I did not go back and SS those, I think. I can do some searching, but I am sure bolly will be happy to share at some point. I will say below exactly what was said, to the best of my memory*

First I want to emphasize again, how they backwalked their original stance, which was it was my fault and it is just political/philosophical difference. Noted here: https://gyazo.com/9e3f37f102fb3ac1ff268c289e3367ab Big bad BHO comes in "You dealing with me moving forward." I had requested bolly since he is more reasonable.
And then shortly thereafter, after him, BHO, getting tilted he went from we are sorry and it doesnt reflect us (damage control) to I am stealing and im looking for an argument (summation) I can share screens.
To bolly again placing the blame on me: https://gyazo.com/34ce1aea7ecfc0c93fe211a00ae85030

Yep **** ony my mom, my grandma, my aunts, former girlfriends, on nieces, cousins, an entire race, well all races besides white and im the insulting one bro okay lol. The whataboutism and deflection here is strong. Also keep in mind I only ever said anything insulting until after he started his games.

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Originally Posted by freedom 35
The bollywood guy even said he was somewhat on your side before reading the chats. He said you threatened violence and accused the guy of being a military imposter? lol. Can you link those chats?
To answer your question tho**

I told them I would be going to 2p2, going to reddit/craigslist any outlet related to Rosarito and that it is imo that he will never walk around Tijuana again. This is not a threat, this is my prognostication of how people could react.

Again, if I HAD wanted to I would call some of my friends, but that is clearly not my intention and I wrote that DIRECTLY below the above in our group chat DMs with the 3 funny bosses.

But again this is laughable beyond belief. They use insulting, attacking language against entire races, but then play the victim. Just lol just lol

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01-11-2021 , 01:47 PM
Offence is the best defence. It looks like they might be taking that line when blackmailing you now. What else are they supposed to do?

Isn't there a mediator or something? The closest thing to a mediator I think is joeingram or Doug polk. Doug is busy playing heads up now. You might want to try your luck with joeingram and take this public. See how they react.

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