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08-03-2015 , 03:10 PM
Hey potential investors. I am a former investor of Bob's. I have also invested in multiple other packages here on 2+2 with no issues. I invested 10% into his WSOP Horse 1500 package where he cashed for $6,419. You would think that's a good thing but unfortunately Bob has still not paid me and now has blocked me on FB and ignores me on twitter when all I do is ask him to pay me my return. He told me to let him know when I want my return via PayPal and then once I did on 7/12/15 he did not respond and after a few more messages with no response, I realized it was unlikely I would be getting my return. I advise potential investors to look elsewhere especially if you are investing via PayPal which is the way I did. I'm just trying to help others avoid what I am going through. Ty for reading and GL in your future investments.
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08-03-2015 , 03:21 PM
A im not to sure who you are.. if your Jamision Smith any action u won was re invested you seem to fail to mention that.. I didnt block you on facebook i removed you since we are not real friends in real life and I just saw your tweet now as I dont follow you on twitter.. this has been reported as spam..
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08-03-2015 , 03:26 PM
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/18...auria-1536518/ for the record of my whose pay outs incase anyone cares feel free to see everyone was paid instantly
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08-03-2015 , 03:31 PM
I reinvested some of my $640 return and am still owed over $200. I bought 10% of 1500 DC at 0 MU = 150; 10% of 1500 Stud at 1.2 MU = 180, 50% of 175 STS at 1.14 = 100

640-150-180-100 = $210
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08-03-2015 , 03:41 PM
Not sure what this kid is trying to do here.. but both his posts have been reported if anyone would like to cancel action cause of this troll that also is fine .. I never screwed anyone and wouldnt want anyone to feel uncomfortable investing..
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08-03-2015 , 03:57 PM
It seems pretty clear he thinks you owe him money - why not just PM him (or post here) about the discrepancy, rather than reporting his posts as spam, which they clearly aren't?
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08-03-2015 , 03:59 PM
I just asked him to email me on twitter.. He is owed nothing I can assure you that..
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08-03-2015 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jamisons109
Hey potential investors. I am a former investor of Bob's. I have also invested in multiple other packages here on 2+2 with no issues. I invested 10% into his WSOP Horse 1500 package where he cashed for $6,419. You would think that's a good thing but unfortunately Bob has still not paid me and now has blocked me on FB and ignores me on twitter when all I do is ask him to pay me my return. He told me to let him know when I want my return via PayPal and then once I did on 7/12/15 he did not respond and after a few more messages with no response, I realized it was unlikely I would be getting my return. I advise potential investors to look elsewhere especially if you are investing via PayPal which is the way I did. I'm just trying to help others avoid what I am going through. Ty for reading and GL in your future investments.
You should start by posting some evidence of your conversations. It sounds like OP knows a "Jamison" from his WSOP package, but all of this seems to have taken place away from 2p2.
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08-03-2015 , 04:08 PM
I never knew him He added me as a FB friend a while ago.. when He invested on here in ST louis I never went and no money was ever exchanged.. I have yes since deleted him on facebook in a non harmful way just the fact we werent friends .. any action he had In which I agree he paid for was re invested he took pieces of the events he claimed also a few others which he failed to mention.. He at one point was planing to send money for a main event share as well.. but I also didnt play that.. his balance was at zero .. if he ever emails me ill send him all the info he would like.. I have no problems with that
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08-03-2015 , 04:52 PM
Here is all of the FB messages sent between me and Bob from when I decided to invest in him in early June to the end of WSOP. Note: I did commit to buying additional pieces then in my post above but Bob never ended up playing those (1.5K Monster Stack, 10K Horse and 10K Main Event).

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...1&l=a904e62249
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08-03-2015 , 05:04 PM
WSOPC St Louis is a different story. I did invest and money WAS exchanged (I also have proof of this). Bob had some type of car trouble and didn't play so he refunded without a problem.
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08-03-2015 , 05:12 PM
LOL well since I no longer have him on facebook and cant actually send you the real conversations.. or since I asked him to email me and he choose not to.. This leaves out roughly 200 ish of action hes failing to mention he took.. which included two 100 shares of sats.. but since thats after all the convo he decided to switch to taking pics of his screen and whatever.. my records show .. and I am mistaken I do owe him roughly 20 bucks.. I will send that now.. It was a minor error on my part.. but if these scam screen shots are what we are going buy.!! I love the fact he switched from screen shots to taking a picture of his monitor.. Hey im not trying to scam anyone here ill refund him his money.. Ill also refund the paid portion of this as well.. Glad you went out of your way to scam me .. but im also sorry for thinking I owed you nothing..
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08-03-2015 , 05:16 PM
Both Jamisions 20 bucks and the 4% share of this pack that was paid for was paid back..
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08-03-2015 , 05:26 PM
I can repost all the screenshots from the computer. I just took the pics at different times so that's why it's like that. I still have access to all of the messages even though we are no longer facebook friends.
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08-03-2015 , 05:26 PM
Johnny Walnuts 4% refunded..

heres the total break down of the 620/640 spent.. come to think of it He paid mark up on one so the 20 bucks was basically a gift refund.. he can have it
2015 investor pool WSOP

Jamision Smith
6/10 10% 1500 horse +640 and W9 (not needed under 6500)


10% 1500 DC -150
50% of Sit an go -100
1500 stud 8 -150
10% 1k mega -110
10% 1k mega -110
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08-03-2015 , 05:29 PM
I am still not happy with only $20. I am still owed $190 I did not invest in multiple Sattys. If anyone knows a way to download a FB convo so that you all can see every message together I will be happy to do that
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08-03-2015 , 05:31 PM
I never invested in either Mega, I believe it was discussed you might play in one for the Horse but that was never confirmed. And I did pay MU on Stud8. It was confirmed 180 for 10%
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08-03-2015 , 05:32 PM
^^ if one didnt delete messages and or trying to scam someone why would the messages been separate? I guess I need to keep every facebook record for now on to make sure people dont try and take advantage of me post wsop like this..
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08-03-2015 , 05:43 PM
I took the majority of the iPhone screenshots back on June 17th, when I thought there might be a problem with getting a refund because Bob seemed to be upset about me not investing in the 3K Horse or 1.5K 10 game. I never deleted or altered any of the messages and those are all of them during that time period. Then when I went to take pics of the later convos I was deleted off FB and our convo was no longer available in FB Messenger (or at least I did not know how to access it). Then I went on my computer and the conversations were still available and that is why I took the remainder of the pics from there. Why would I try to scam you over 200$? I just want the money I am rightfully owed.
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08-03-2015 , 05:54 PM
Well sir you blew this out of proportion, I never was upset about you not investing why would I care.. I even asked you in the screen shots you dug up after I put money on PP if you would like a refund now, you didnt delete that part you then continued to buy action , You were mad that others got paid that day , well Brynn and other investors were in the same room as I got paid in.. I needed to load a few k onto paypal and that I did, once I did you were given the offer to get paid, roughly 2 days after then event being the weekend .. you continued to gamble, im sorry that your funds ran out, and some how your trying to scam 200 of this.. I do apologize for the 20 buck mistake.. which looking back it wasnt even a mistake on my part(to late now).. you have stated you were paid and I feel that should put an end to this... I really wish you dont invest in others on here because this was totally out of line my man..
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08-03-2015 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by scsuhockey10
dlr413 40% pending DM

RAYRAYRAYRAY 5% booked august 14-15-16 are day ones I can pretty much play any two im a 4 hour drive away in vegas

Johnny Walnuts 4% booked

56% sold like to sell 14 more..
drop me your paypal details plz.

Ill send over early next week if thats cool. if i forget just bug me in a pm
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08-03-2015 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by scsuhockey10
^^ if one didnt delete messages and or trying to scam someone why would the messages been separate? I guess I need to keep every facebook record for now on to make sure people dont try and take advantage of me post wsop like this..
Didn't go through every screenshot on there, but don't think you can delete individual messages on FB. Someone can correct me if I'm mistaken, but you'd have to delete the entire conversation.

EDIT: Obv not saying anything about photoshop, breaks in convo, etc etc
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08-03-2015 , 05:58 PM
thanks RAYRAYRAYRAY let me see how this whole troll thing shapes up.. This kid took this out of serious proportion to try and make 200 bucks.. I dont want anyone to invest with out feeling 1000000000% confident in my character... I have the up most respect for investors and im beyond stressed out about this
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08-03-2015 , 06:01 PM
100000000000000000% you can delete any whole conversation or individual message go to messages and click on actions and you can then select delete conversation or delete messages in if you open messages you can click whatever you like to delete
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08-03-2015 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by scsuhockey10
100000000000000000% you can delete any whole conversation or individual message go to messages and click on actions and you can then select delete conversation or delete messages in if you open messages you can click whatever you like to delete
Oh wow you're right, didn't know this feature was there. Ignore my previous post.
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