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02-15-2019 , 05:13 PM

waxington4766

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I know this is a kinda dumb question because the answer is just there are alot of fish but I have been wanting to ask it for a while to see if there are reasons Im missing. I just dont get how literally every website/book will tell you never to do this but yet so many tables I play have limpers. And I get that sometimes limping sb is ok and like AA but besides that why just why, do some people think they are good at postflop or something? Not that I want it to stop lol

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02-15-2019 , 06:35 PM

michelle227

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Reasons would be numerous, but with differences based on what stage of an event one was seeing the open limping.

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02-15-2019 , 07:14 PM

killer_kill

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Open limping is terrible except in the SB and in unique spots that don't come up often to even worry about.

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02-15-2019 , 08:34 PM

Colin_Piddle

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Think open limping can be ok three handed sometimes. Also small pairs play well as open limp if someone has limped first. I think its ok to open limp with suited conns once in a while as well.

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02-15-2019 , 09:50 PM

Pouled

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Shorthanded in certain situations you can open-limp the button with the right dynamics

As for why people open-limp? Because they are really bad

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02-16-2019 , 04:18 AM

bumpnrun

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Full ring limping is fine when deep stacked with hands that play best multi-way on passive /station tables and-or if u have a big edge post flop

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02-16-2019 , 04:33 AM

oldgoat

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I think the reason why your average limper limps is a sort of optimistic curiousity - "I wonder if my 64s is going to flop a straight flush?" which is why they are usually reluctant to fold to a raise preflop.

I have heard of strong players throwing limps into the mix sometimes to try to disrupt their opponents games -a bit like the way that odd opening moves in chess get your opponent away from the text book - I haven't tried this but I kind of like the idea.

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02-16-2019 , 05:50 AM

bumpnrun

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People get so caught up in aggression which is fine as a basic default strategy but really each situation has its own unique dynamic which we should be capable of adjusting to.

It’s like ....Just because recreational open limp a lot and do it poorly don’t let that stop you from considering it as an option

In some circumstances open raising is a good play sure , but limping is a better one.

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02-16-2019 , 06:22 AM

TwistedEcho

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I forget which tournament series it was, but there was a stream recently (this year) where lots of the v top players were open limping with 20-40bb stacks.

I agree in general, in online soft mtts, that open limping is usually bad (and most people that do open limp are fish) but that doesn't mean limping = always bad.

It is the same as playing from the sb - few years ago it was standard to openraise or fold, nowadays lots of good players complete as their default line.

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02-17-2019 , 12:54 AM

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Braaperz

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Icm, if your on a bubble or ft, you might want to limp call hands rather than raise fold to 3bet if the big stacks are aggro. This allows u still play hands without being abused, so you would limp T9s as well as AA and it’s pretty hard to exploit

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02-17-2019 , 10:06 AM

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Can't edit my post - but fairly sure it was this year aussie millions high roller where the decent players were limping a fair amount (and its something i've seen in some of the other high roller streams).

Worth a watch if you are considering limping and want to see it carried out by decent players

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