where does push-fold begin?
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 569
im new to tournaments, so can someone humor me and tell me at what stack depth (roughly) we start push-folding?
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 14
It's more complicated that that but simply put when it's no longer profitable to raise/fold.
Join Date: Jun 2018
Posts: 569
thanks tropa this makes sense
so i assume this happens around 15-20bb?
Join Date: Apr 2013
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In the old days it was around 10bb but now most players will go into push/fold closer to 13-15bb.
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 14
Situation dependant - it might be correct to raise with 15bb since with the right conditions a raise from a 15bb stack seems stronger than a shove. It might also be correct to shove 21-2bb from LP or the blinds if there is an open raise from a loose player and a call or two that seem weak. Open raising with 13 or less bb without the intention to call any jam just loses too much of your stack.
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 5,077
il still r/f at 15bb (could be bad?)and start jamming <15bb