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TT multiway on BN. GSSD fold. TT multiway on BN. GSSD fold.

07-11-2020 , 08:28 AM
NL Holdem $3.08+$0.22 (80BB)
MP ($9840)
HJ ($4910)
CO ($5240) [VPIP: 24.3% | PFR: 17.6% | AGG: 25.3% | Flop Agg: 25.6% | Turn Agg: 31.6% | River Agg: 16.7% | 3-Bet: 7.4% | 4-Bet: 12.5% | Hands: 654]
HERO ($4262)
SB ($4032)
BB ($11560) [VPIP: 25% | PFR: 10% | AGG: 35.3% | Flop Agg: 50% | Turn Agg: 20% | River Agg: 25% | 3-Bet: 6.7% | 4-Bet: 0% | Cold Call: 20% | Hands: 40]
UTG ($4050)
EP ($9888)

Dealt to Hero: T T

UTG Folds, EP Folds, MP Folds, HJ Folds, CO Raises To $164, HERO Calls $164, SB Folds, BB Calls $84

Hero SPR on Flop: [7.7 effective]
Flop ($532): 9 2 J
BB Checks, CO Checks, HERO Checks

Turn ($532): 9 2 J K
BB Bets $280 (Rem. Stack: $11116), CO Calls $280 (Rem. Stack: $4796), HERO Folds

River ($1092): 9 2 J K T
BB Bets $1092 (Rem. Stack: $10024), CO Folds

Spoiler:

BB wins: $1092


I'm very unfamiliar with how to play these multiway situations.

We have a GSSD here and are getting 4:1. If the Q hits the River, we likely have the nuts given our blockers.

We also have draws to a set, but I'll have a hard time calling vs 2 villains given a Q has us beat then.

I folded thinking that 4:1 just isn't the right price given that one of these two likely has us beat on the turn.
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07-11-2020 , 01:46 PM
You're getting into too many multiway situations because of your passive play.

3b preflop.

Bet flop. If one of them has Jx, they would have bet the flop. And you want to protect your hand against their overcard combos.
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07-12-2020 , 03:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth_Maul
If one of them has Jx, they would have bet the flop.
This is not true.

Otherwise, a no-brainer 3bet pre.
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07-12-2020 , 08:39 AM
I just reviewed the MTT Defense charts from Acevedo's book. Sure enough, this is a 3bet ~80% of the time. So, I should simplify and just 3bet 100%.

Thank you both.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth_Maul
You're getting into too many multiway situations because of your passive play.
I have a couple hands open with big winners (at this level up to $5-$10 MTTs).

Here are the stats of the players in those hands with a SharkScope score of 70+:
18/14/4/16
21/16/5/21
23/15/6/20
23/5/6/27
21/11/4/19

And here are mine:
22/15/6/20

I also did a deeper dive into the AGG% stat. I have similar AF, Raise Frequency, and Flop/Turn/River aggression values to these players.

Seeing how close I am to the strong players in the field, is AGG% not giving the full picture of how passive I am? If so, where should I look in my game to identify situations where I am too passive?

Last edited by Cities; 07-12-2020 at 08:52 AM.
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07-12-2020 , 12:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 000Puh4u
This is not true.

Otherwise, a no-brainer 3bet pre.
I think Jx bets this flop way more often than not.
TT multiway on BN. GSSD fold. Quote
07-12-2020 , 12:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cities
I just reviewed the MTT Defense charts from Acevedo's book. Sure enough, this is a 3bet ~80% of the time. So, I should simplify and just 3bet 100%.

Thank you both.



I have a couple hands open with big winners (at this level up to $5-$10 MTTs).

Here are the stats of the players in those hands with a SharkScope score of 70+:
18/14/4/16
21/16/5/21
23/15/6/20
23/5/6/27
21/11/4/19

And here are mine:
22/15/6/20

I also did a deeper dive into the AGG% stat. I have similar AF, Raise Frequency, and Flop/Turn/River aggression values to these players.

Seeing how close I am to the strong players in the field, is AGG% not giving the full picture of how passive I am? If so, where should I look in my game to identify situations where I am too passive?
I don't know what stat that bolded number represents so it's hard for me to say. All I know is that you've posted two hands that were both very passively played, but maybe they don't accurately represent your playing style.
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07-12-2020 , 05:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth_Maul
I think Jx bets this flop way more often than not.
Everybody will check to the PFR so Jacks from the blinds would not have bet.
TT multiway on BN. GSSD fold. Quote
07-12-2020 , 07:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth_Maul
I don't know what stat that bolded number represents so it's hard for me to say. All I know is that you've posted two hands that were both very passively played, but maybe they don't accurately represent your playing style.
It is Aggression %.
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07-13-2020 , 08:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 000Puh4u
Everybody will check to the PFR so Jacks from the blinds would not have bet.
CO was the PFR, so while you're likely right about BB the CO would definitely be betting his Jx here.
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07-13-2020 , 09:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darth_Maul
CO was the PFR, so while you're likely right about BB the CO would definitely be betting his Jx here.
Yeah, but this does not mean that no one will have a Jack as per the previous comment. CO does not have a Jack is a bit different than no body has a Jack.
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