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07-21-2018 , 04:56 PM

king15br

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 136

Poker Stars, $0.23 Buy-in (80/160 blinds, 20 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 2,477 (15.5 bb)
Hero (BB): 2,773 (17.3 bb)
UTG+2: 1,747 (10.9 bb)
MP1: 2,123 (13.3 bb)
MP2: 220 (1.4 bb)
MP3: 12,406 (77.5 bb)
CO: 2,851 (17.8 bb)
BTN: 3,444 (21.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

3 folds, MP3 raises to 320, 3 folds, Hero raises to 565, MP3 calls 245

Flop: (1,370) K

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 checks

Turn: (1,370) 2

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets 160, Hero calls 160

River: (1,690) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, MP3 bets 845, Hero raises to 2,028 and is all-in, MP3 calls 1,183

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Villain statistics are irrelevant.his bet turn is pretty normal to steal the pot,but when J comes i think he could have it,but his bet was so big compared with others streets.so facing this information what you think should i do.call,fold or 3bet shove like i did.
seeing later,maybe just a call is better hear without any information on this strange V line.
pré i don't wannaams to kick out the V from hand.

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07-21-2018 , 05:42 PM

HawkesDave

adept

Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 1,173

Bet flop 30%, get x/r'd, call and stacked.

Or bet flop 30%, shove turn, get called and stacked.

You had 17.3bbs with AA on a dry board and you got stacked. It was going to happen pretty much regardless.

With that said, as played, the river shove is pretty bad. He's almost never calling with worse here. You block AK so you're targeting an unlikely AK, or a hand like KQ or KT. He's checking everything else behind but his bluffs.

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07-21-2018 , 06:22 PM

King-Nine

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Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 5

You were losing big here no matter what from the flop onwards. You were hoping to get it all in and I'm sure he was to.

With 17bb I'd be aiming to go all in PF. You say you don't want to scare him off but at this point you should be starting to shove PF with a fair few hands to a MP min raise.

His really low bet turn could be seen as worrying depending on how you rate the player. For me it seems too low to steal, pot odds of 19:2 is getting called by a lot just to see a river. That bet seems more of a probe or pot builder before the bigger river bet.

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07-21-2018 , 06:29 PM

killer_kill

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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 28,610

Jam preflop.

Bet the flop

Bet the turn, jam turn as played.

Bet river.

Size preflop is atrocious.

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07-22-2018 , 06:45 AM

cizixap

adept

Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 1,027

push pre and nothing else matters...

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07-22-2018 , 11:13 AM

king15br

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 136

how i said,jams pré would be a profitable decision every moment,but i think is less profitable than raises,because i can keep hands of villain wich will fold for a shove and i give him a chance to hit a TP like:KJ-,AJ-,QK-midle pairs like this situation.17 BBs is a good stack size and i think in the most of the time will scare V,further a V was opening a wide range with a large stack.
maybe my mistake was slowplay soo much and just jams in last street.

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07-22-2018 , 01:09 PM

cizixap

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Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 1,027

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Originally Posted by king15br

Yes, that makes sense. But we play micro-stakes here. People call all-ins with all kind of sh*t. So, jam with AA is super-profitable and might be even more profitable than slow play it. People want to believe in miracles until they see the flop.

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07-22-2018 , 05:45 PM

killer_kill

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But you're not going to have many bad hands that are making this sizing. It's not about what your singular hand does in a vacuum but rather what your overall range does and how it plays.

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07-23-2018 , 12:42 PM

RichC.

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Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,452

Preflop 3bet was terrible as you basically minraised him. Reraise to around 900 or and shove flop or just shove preflop.

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07-23-2018 , 04:16 PM

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king15br

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 136

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Originally Posted by RichC.

Preflop 3bet was terrible as you basically minraised him. Reraise to around 900 or and shove flop or just shove preflop.

i miniraised because he was raising soo much,and i think a big size like this will make him fold,so i decide to miniraise.

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07-23-2018 , 04:19 PM

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killer_kill

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So if he's raising too much then jam more value hands/expand the bottom of your range not play a miniscule part of your range unbalanced cause you're worried he'll fold.

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