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Too aggresive moves with ~30 BB ?? Too aggresive moves with ~30 BB ??

08-17-2018 , 01:52 PM
Hi guys

Hand 1

Cold caller is a loose passive player
SB 3bet 25% (4) althought sample is pretty small (32 hands)

[converted_hand][hand_history]Winamax, $4.50 Buy-in (200/400 blinds, 50 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935982

Hero (MP): 13,519 (33.8 bb)
CO: 20,020 (50.1 bb)
BTN: 27,726 (69.3 bb)
SB: 37,405 (93.5 bb)
BB: 16,553 (41.4 bb)
UTG: 18,315 (45.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 7 7
UTG folds, Hero raises to 996, CO calls 996, BTN folds, SB raises to 2,600, [color="grey"]BB folds Hero raises to 13,469 and is all-in

Hand 2

All Villains are loose players

[converted_hand][hand_history]Winamax, $0.45 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 80 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935983

SB: 70,115 (116.9 bb)
Hero (BB): 16,905 (28.2 bb)
MP: 19,565 (32.6 bb)
CO: 40,025 (66.7 bb)
BTN: 30,745 (51.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A J
MP folds, CO calls 600, BTN calls 600, SB completes, Hero raises to 16,825 and is all-in
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08-17-2018 , 02:42 PM
Looks fine. In second hand hard to say which is more profitable, raise to around 5bb or jam all-in. Against loose players you gonna have to play oop with a smaller raise i guess jam is ok.
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08-18-2018 , 06:07 AM
looks more like spewing.
1) really easy call pre
2) really easy call pre
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08-18-2018 , 03:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cizixap
looks more like spewing.
1) really easy call pre
2) really easy call pre
Hand 1 really easy call pre ? Can you elaborate a little bit?
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08-18-2018 , 04:04 PM
^^ set mining with dead cards on the table if CO folds; normal set mining if CO calls. AI versus 2 opponents with 77 often coin flip..but if you flop a set, we can win a lot. If we lose, we still have playable stack.
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08-20-2018 , 02:36 PM
I like both plays. Not sure if raising 4-5x would be better with the AJ. Feels really awkward when we get flatted. Don't think balancing that spot is all that important especially in the micros but I'm sure there are a few bluff shoves we could sneak in there from the BB like suited wheel aces. I think I prefer shoving the AJ to just pick up the chips right there and not face a strange situation OOP when called w/ AJ - Especially when our opponents stacks are so deep.
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08-20-2018 , 04:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cizixap
^^ set mining with dead cards on the table if CO folds; normal set mining if CO calls. AI versus 2 opponents with 77 often coin flip..but if you flop a set, we can win a lot. If we lose, we still have playable stack.
Uummm ok lets see if i made my math right

I have pot odds to call around 3,5:1 (like 22%) but i only hit my set 11%...not sure if times i stack SB balances all other times that i have to fold OTF

I understand your logic but...uummmm..for me it´s still more a fold than a call...

DISCLAIMER : i am a bad player so i am ready to listen - and learn - from more experienced guys
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08-21-2018 , 10:05 PM
77 can be folded in EP. A table with a bunch of aggros and not good enough implied odds might suggest this is the time to take out the 77.

I see alot of people limp call these days. Not a fan, but its basically the same idea as buying the cheapest flop possible to set mine.

Meh, 77 it happens.

The second hand is prob fine in 45c tournaments but at $45 you cant do that. You have top cap your jam to when you stack is under 40 blinds. AJ maybe even less. I forget the exact reasoning, but its something to the tune of the 7% you are behind 44 starts to cost you a playable stack you once you get over 40 some blinds. I would look into this idea more to get an idea of what kind of limitations these hands have.

I mean I do jam 250bb with AK all the time so, its not like I know what I am talking about.
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08-22-2018 , 10:10 PM
Yeah a bit too aggressive you're either flipping or crushed majority of the time, AJ hand is fine to just grab some chips if called you're probably not in terrible shape.
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