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Old 10-13-2017, 02:16 AM   #1
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Three hands $16.50 PKO deep stack

Three hands from this mtt. Didn't have good reads on any of the players at the time. None of the villains were fish they ranged from break-even to weak regs.



[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $15 Buy-in (600/1,200 blinds, 150 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37847996

MP3: 13,524 (11.3 bb)
CO: 84,536 (70.4 bb)
Hero (BTN): 47,813 (39.8 bb)
SB: 45,532 (37.9 bb)
BB: 40,718 (33.9 bb)
UTG+1: 29,397 (24.5 bb)
UTG+2: 116,341 (97 bb)
MP1: 63,401 (52.8 bb)
MP2: 37,922 (31.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K 6
6 folds, Hero raises to 2,400, SB folds, BB calls 1,200

Flop: (6,750) 7 9 K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (6,750) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets 2,400, BB calls 2,400

River: (11,550) Q (2 players)
BB bets 5,775, [color="grey"]Hero ?


tory]Poker Stars, $15 Buy-in (300/600 blinds, 70 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37847994

MP2: 80,485 (134.1 bb)
MP3: 4,720 (7.9 bb)
CO: 16,288 (27.1 bb)
BTN: 15,726 (26.2 bb)
SB: 27,217 (45.4 bb)
Hero (BB): 31,888 (53.1 bb)
UTG+2: 35,411 (59 bb)
MP1: 46,929 (78.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with Q 8
5 folds, BTN raises to 1,500, SB folds, Hero calls 900

Flop: (3,860) 2 8 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: (3,860) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets 1,583, Hero calls 1,583

River: (7,026) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets 3,881, [color="grey"]Hero ?
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Old 10-13-2017, 02:20 AM   #2
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Re: Three hands $16.50 PKO deep stack

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[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $15 Buy-in (400/800 blinds, 100 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37848014

CO: 56,331 (70.4 bb)
BTN: 46,988 (58.7 bb)
Hero (SB): 23,710 (29.6 bb)
BB: 24,400 (30.5 bb)
UTG+2: 51,860 (64.8 bb)
MP1: 50,874 (63.6 bb)
MP2: 21,395 (26.7 bb)
MP3: 22,586 (28.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 6 K
6 folds, Hero completes, BB raises to 2,400, Hero calls 1,600

Flop: (5,600) 2 K J (2 players)
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: (5,600) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets 1,800, BB calls 1,800

River: (9,200) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets 8,800, Hero ?
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Old 10-13-2017, 01:30 PM   #3
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Re: Three hands $16.50 PKO deep stack

hand 2 is a call
hand 3 is a clear fold
hand 1 is a close spot.
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:49 PM   #4
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Re: Three hands $16.50 PKO deep stack

1) Flop I would cb most of the time. If you are cbetting all your air combos like diamonds, 8T,86,JT,QT then you should bet TP. We are getting called by worse a lot, any pair or draw otf will likely call our cbet. As played, need to size up turn, you are missing value and are letting worse hands in. We are getting 3-1 otr for a call. So we need to win 25% of the time, which means we can lose 75% here and still not lose any money, the maths proly warrant a call.

2) Given how wide BTN range is and how many combos beat us I would call river, I'd say heaps of 9x hands would take this line and again we are getting pretty decent price, we don't have to be right too often to turn a profit here.

3) I like to raise the first time myself in this spot, rather then limp/call the lower portions of my range. I like limp/c sb with hands that can flop a bit better (ie: x2 cards 8 or better). Hands that are good candidates to limp/c sb are K9,K8,Q8,Q9,QT,JT,J9,J8 and also good SC's. As played turn bet is way too small and your just letting hands in and asking to get messed with here, need to increase sizing. River I proly fold to that sizing, we have to be right a bit more often. He proly checks back alot of his showdown value and there is not too many bluffs he can have except clubs
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Old 10-14-2017, 05:00 AM   #5
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Re: Three hands $16.50 PKO deep stack

Thanks for the advice. I disagree on some of your comments about sizing. esp when villains range is fairly weak. Interested to hear what others think.
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Old 10-14-2017, 06:14 AM   #6
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Re: Three hands $16.50 PKO deep stack

id call h1 and h2 and fold the third one. i think theres def merit to leading turn in h2 especially with the sizings you seem to choose in those spots. you can vbet pretty wide if you take those lines.

i think the hands are wp though fwiw.
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Old 10-15-2017, 05:58 AM   #7
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Re: Three hands $16.50 PKO deep stack

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Thanks for the advice. I disagree on some of your comments about sizing. esp when villains range is fairly weak. Interested to hear what others think.
I also agree with making turn bigger in this hand. We want value from draws here, and assuming he has some kind of broadway+flush draw he has ~35% to win and actually has odds to call here. From a less quantitative perspective, betting less than the pre-amount also gives off a sense of weakness, so some Vs might try and make a move on the small raise. I would probably go with something around 2,400-2,800 if raising here.

Also:
Hand 1: Call, lots of busted draws and queens will put money in here; can't see V showing up with a set or Q9
Hand 2: Fold-pre for me, but AP call again; I don't see this guy opening mid-connectors with that stack and any overs are definitely c-betting. Only thing that gets us is A10, but we win more than we lose here.
Hand 3: Fold, straight draws came in and I could see 2p showing up here too
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Old 10-17-2017, 07:15 PM   #8
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Re: Three hands $16.50 PKO deep stack

1. i like cbetting more but i dont mind x backing some of the kings. turn sizing is okay as u said, his range is pretty weak when he checks twice and we wanna keep those 7xes/whatever there. river is a call.

2. easy calldown i think.

3.i dont like limp calling K6s here as it flops bad and it tends to be dominated quite often when we hit a king. raising is pbb a lot better. as played, i think here it is MANDATORY for you to lead turn quite bigger, smt in 3200-4200 range since villain is checking the flop with the intention of calling turn bet pbb in 90%+ cases. as played i like betting the river 35-40% to extract value from Jxes and QQ and to keep my range uncapped. when u check this river it's pretty easy for capable villains to destroy you here since u re pbb always check folding.
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Old 10-18-2017, 10:30 AM   #9
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Re: Three hands $16.50 PKO deep stack

Hand 1 call

Hand 2 i like your line and would def call the river.

Hand 3 is tricky. I also am not a big fan of the sizing, if you're going to bet then make it half pot at least imo. Personally i would've checked the turn too with a weak kicker and called a bet. If vil checks back again i would bet river around half pot. I also agree that we should raise K6 here and not limp call pre. As played fold the river.
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