Merge - 250/500 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+1: 16.94 BB (VPIP: 26.92, PFR: 15.69, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 52)
MP+2: 52.92 BB (VPIP: 29.23, PFR: 20.69, 3Bet Preflop: 17.65, Hands: 66)
CO: 6.94 BB (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 5.26, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
BTN: 13.08 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 28.57, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)
SB: 8.64 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
Hero (BB): 16.47 BB
UTG: 38.12 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 13.04, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 25)
UTG+1: 13.26 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 12.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 9)
MP: 6.94 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 4)

9 players post ante of 0.1 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.4 BB) Hero has J A

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, MP+1 calls 1 BB, MP+2 calls 1 BB, fold, BTN raises to 12.98 BB and is all-in, fold, Hero?

We are quite far from the money in the carbon nightly 11. There are four tables left. Thanks for the fb.

I'd take this spot - we're likely flipping against aggressive BTN range and there's a lot of dead-or-dying money in the pot.

Fold. I’d go AQ+ here

fold for me

^ How are people ranging BTN to make this a fold? - we need only 40% equity if the limpers all fold & I cannot see how we don't have that

- If one of them calls we need about 28% & from stats all have a decent sized gap between vpip and pfr suggesting weak limping ranges.

Actually I take my fold back, I think you have to call here unless BTN is a total NIT

I'm more worried about the players behind more so than being ahead of BTN range.

It's a shove. Especially with the likely fishy limpers in there as dead money. You're only worried about UTG and he's looking like a fishcake (small sample).

I'm ok with a shove, not happy about it, but it's a good spot with lots of chips at the bottom of your get it in range.

Fold AJo vs 13bb BU shove, what is this madness? Most of the time limpers are fish contributing dead money to the pot, easy shove.

So if AJo is a trivial jam for so many what's the bottom of our jamming range?

ATo+, A9s+, 55+, KQs for me.

I mean I don't want to lmfao at a newcomer and make anyone feel unwelcome but perhaps adding one tier off the AJo+ to make it ATo+ means it really isn't madness to fold slightly above the bottom of your jamming range esp when there's a non zero % you're being trapped.

Which kinda loops back to my point that this is actually a pretty close (and interesting albeit rare) spot.

Feel free to lmfao at me, but I think the difference between ATo and AJo can be considerable. ATo could be argued to be somewhat borderline with the potential of being trapped, though I still think you have to go with it.

Starting with AJo it really becomes an obvious shove though, close to ~4% extra equity you have against a reasonable button range makes a significant difference.

^ good post - keep posting
ATo is pretty marginal & could go either way but AJo is a different beast

Adding combos of AJo won't add that much difference to be 4% and it's not correct to assume none of 3 limpers will ever be trapping. I think it's a closer spot than its being credited for.

I fold
There is the risk that some limper has a pocket pair and decides to gamble.
3 ways your equity drops a lot

Fold because one of limpers is bound to call