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SPR1 JJ on K high flop SPR1 JJ on K high flop

12-18-2018 , 10:18 AM
PokerStars - 100/200 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP+2: 87.69 BB (VPIP: 14.29, PFR: 9.52, 3Bet Preflop: 8.33, Hands: 21)
CO: 50 BB
BTN: 43.19 BB (VPIP: 4.76, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
Hero (SB): 56.06 BB
BB: 43.87 BB (VPIP: 19.05, PFR: 4.76, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 21)
UTG: 50 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
UTG+1: 47.56 BB (VPIP: 29.27, PFR: 29.27, 3Bet Preflop: 19.05, Hands: 41)
MP: 169.05 BB (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 15.63, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 34)
MP+1: 53.31 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 5.56, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 14 BB, fold, fold, fold, CO calls 11 BB

Flop: (35 BB, 2 players) 2 4 K
Hero ???

bet 2k and fold? and if called otf stop ott or go allin? or just jam flop?
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12-18-2018 , 10:28 AM
Bet 10BB and jam turn. Without a strong read on villain, can't fold in that spot.
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12-18-2018 , 10:41 AM
what do you think CO called with on the preflop? Let's say it's 88-AA, AQo-AKo, ATs-AKs, KQs
on this board we are flipping against this range. why don't we check on the flop.
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12-18-2018 , 11:08 AM
OP you removed the stats from CO...

ffsh, you think he calls a raise to multi-way pot with JJ-AA? And then someone 3bets 1/4 of his stack and he keeps just calling with KK-AA?

I think your range is pretty nutted and he isn't representing that. Not with a call to the UTG 3BB raise, without no shortstack behind and after a MP flat call.

I think he might have some mid pocket pairs like 77/99, and some hands like KQs, hands that he likes to go see a flop with, but isn't confident to raise pre.
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12-18-2018 , 03:07 PM
I would shove this preflop. There is already 10.5 BBs in the pot before the action gets to you. Your raise represents 25% of your stack in a multi-way pot. With JJ all of that = shove those chippies in.
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12-18-2018 , 03:34 PM
Shove pre.

-Max equity denial, you need that 5-handed OOP (including the BB who's yet to act)

-Max equity realization, we never need to worry about being blown off our hand which is a real possibility being OOP. And we definitely want to get to showdown if possible.

-We'll get called by worse, {TT, AK, AQs, etc} to name a few hands

-We lose to overpairs but we're prob losing to those anyway on most boards including basically all boards that are T-high and lower so it's not like shove pre means we valueown ourselves vs this part of villains' ranges

-I highly doubt villains' ranges are structured in a way where they can exploit a jam pre strategy
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