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09-17-2018 , 10:30 PM

Darth_Maul

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Early in the 2.20 turbo PKO WCOOP event on Stars.

PokerStars - 100/200 Ante 25 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 124.22 BB
BTN: 123.7 BB
SB: 121.6 BB
BB: 106.72 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 1)
UTG: 123.52 BB
UTG+1: 124.87 BB
MP: 124.87 BB
Hero (MP+1): 126.41 BB
MP+2: 125 BB

9 players post ante of 0 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.62 BB) Hero has Q

fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (7.62 BB, 2 players) T

BB checks, Hero bets 3.81 BB, BB calls 3.81 BB

Turn: (15.25 BB, 2 players) K

BB checks, Hero bets 7.63 BB, BB calls 7.63 BB

River: (30.51 BB, 2 players) J

BB bets 92.15 BB and is all-in, Hero ???

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09-18-2018 , 02:14 AM

litlebullet

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Ugh gross, you don't really beat that much though, he going to bluff here? Don't think so. Is he shoving worst for value? I doubt it, even at a 2$ wcoop. But in game, I pay him off, because 2$ wcoop. :/

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09-18-2018 , 03:16 AM

bearer

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#TheyAlwaysHaveIt

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09-18-2018 , 03:21 AM

oldgoat

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Pretty much never good here

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09-18-2018 , 05:32 AM

chazmoneypoker

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These types of bets on the river always amaze me. This should be a bluff but never is, especially at this level. He's hoping you have AJ or QJ or are willing to stack off with a hand like AK. I fold here and laugh at how much value this guy just lost by jamming.

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09-18-2018 , 10:12 AM

Darth_Maul

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The bet is clearly polarizing - either a monster or a bluff. I didn't think he backed into a flush, partly because I have a blocker, and a set would get busy earlier. I also block the nut straight, but regardless why would he turn a straight into a bluff when the flush card hits? So I was having a hard time figuring out his value range here.

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09-18-2018 , 11:17 AM

litlebullet

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TJ and KJ make the most sense to me. Sometimes he does flip over a flush, but less likely. Agreed that he almost never has a straight

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09-18-2018 , 12:22 PM

bearer

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You don't block that many flushes at all

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09-18-2018 , 01:27 PM

underdeveloped

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@Darth_Maul

You ever consider checking turn here?

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09-18-2018 , 02:14 PM

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Darth_Maul

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Originally Posted by underdeveloped

@Darth_Maul

You ever consider checking turn here?

Yes but the K is better for my range than his and since it does wet the board I didn't want to give him a free river.

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09-18-2018 , 02:43 PM

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underdeveloped

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Originally Posted by Darth_Maul

Yes but the K is better for my range than his and since it does wet the board I didn't want to give him a free river.

Interesting.. IMO I think I like to check back turn. Just think our specific holding plays better as a check back on turn and then either bluff catch or value bet on varrying rivers. Shouldn't be too scared of giving free rivers when we have the Q

and the open ended straight draw. Often times we could even be value owning ourself vs bb. Just think it is a little too thin to bet this turn. Could be a leak of mine tho.

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