Hi guys

Original PFR is 37/23 in 50 hands; he already had taken down 3 bounties

Shover is a tight reg, he had 2 bounties on his head

Clueless what to do here tbh...does the big stack presence affect our strategy here?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $4.50 Buy-in (350/700 blinds, 85 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
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SB: 21,756 (31.1 bb)
Hero (BB): 31,075 (44.4 bb)
UTG+2: 12,718 (18.2 bb)
MP1: 8,964 (12.8 bb)
MP2: 32,523 (46.5 bb)
MP3: 91,868 (131.2 bb)
CO: 11,750 (16.8 bb)
BTN: 21,480 (30.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7 7
3 folds, MP3 raises to 1,400, CO raises to 11,665 and is all-in Hero ????

yah it is a fold , it should be at least if u had 17 bbs seems more close to call

I have no idea what's going in a pko but this seems like a jam given my limited understanding of them. We should get original raiser to fold most his hands and worst case is we're up against original raiser having like 88 or 99.

Me neither....people do crazy stuff in these tournaments haha

Close spot, more so the fact original raiser has 132BBS and can easily afford to call our rejam. it's probably a spot I'm taking tho.

Closing out the action + 2 bounties = re-shove.

Yeah I'm going with it as well, esp given that the original raiser is quite active

we're not closing the action and it's only 1 bounty

I don't know what to do here... looks like we're not ITM yet but we're pretty close.. I guess I'd fold

I think it's important to realize we're hoping to fold out a lot of stuff to iso the bounty rather than thinking 77 is just crushing the original raiser to jam over them. I might be wrong of course but 44 blinds with a pair in a PKO feels like rejamming TT with like 30~ imo or that's around how I'd quantify it I guess.

I think vs MP you will be like 50/50 with little FE, vs CO maybe 42-43%. I think it is close. But because the other players, I prefer fold. You have a good stack size...But with a stronger pair will be over shove. 88, 99...Shove...

I don't know, really close. I guess depends on the value of your chips. How much is your stack at the beginning? Or the average stack in this situation...And how much is the bounty? You must know this things. Sometime the value of the chips is too high. To play for the bounties. Or the bounty is too high...And also depends on the bounties for the other players...You know, you must have "a target". In those tournaments. Bounties. Or chips...Or ITM...Here maybe this is a shove. But depends on the other players. The other "targets"...

"The value" of the chips....Let's say 3k stack at the beginning. 50% for the bounties, 50% for the prize pool. For example, if you play $2+$2, if you have 30k stack, the value of the chips is 10x$2 =$20. Before the money. You still can "find" your "stack value" ITM. Let's say 200 places paid, price pool - 200x the lower place.

Or another method. The average stack. Let's say 200 players remaining, the value of the average stack is the price pool / 200. And you compare your stack to the average stack. For ITM, the same. Like the other method.

And you use the ICM as well. For the value of the stack. You will have smaller value. Depends on the "phaze". Before the money, close to the money, ITM.

Some people will say a "bigger" value (ICM). Depends on "the point of the view". Your chips have a bigger value, the chips , which you will win, have a smaller value. Simply, you need more equity to take some spot...

I forgot...When you have a weaker hand vs his range, you can't add the entire value of the bounty to the pot. For example here the CO will take more often. He have the strongest range.

ICM matters less in PKO's due to half the prize pool being bounties.

All this words only for "the value of the stack", only for the price pool. And you said that as criticism. The ICM is "the same". Matters in the same way.