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07-19-2018 , 10:01 PM
I am a tight player by nature but I have worked hard to loosen up and find spots to take down some pots bc I understand I cant sit around waiting on premium hands. Just wondering if the following hand was a bad play. I like it.
The HJ is a 44/27/0 lag. HH posted below but in summary, HJ raises 2.7x and I decide to rejam 13bbs with JTs from sb. Not close to money bubble yet. I feel like these are the spots I have make moves in.

Blinds 250/500
HJ ($20486)
CO ($7388)
HERO ($6618)
SB ($9846)
BB ($23923)
UTG ($50786)
MP ($8130)

Dealt to Hero J T
HJ Raises To $1400 (Rem. Stack: 19086)
HERO Raises To $6618 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0),
SB Raises To $9846 (allin) (Rem. Stack: 0)
BB Folds,
HJ Calls $8446 (Rem. Stack: 10640)[/color]

Flop ($27010) 8 8 9

Turn ($27010) 8 8 9 K

River ($27010) 8 8 9 K 4

HJ shows J T

SB shows A J

SB wins $27010
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07-19-2018 , 10:59 PM
This fine, would be better to have a couple more bb

SB re jam is a little loose imo
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07-19-2018 , 11:46 PM
44/17 isn't LAG, its a whale
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07-20-2018 , 02:00 AM
You are correct, kars. Ive seen the term whale thrown around lately but I didnt know what it meant other than a rich player. Now i know!
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07-20-2018 , 11:02 AM
BTW : what's the sample size of HJ that makes you rely on his stat?

PS. IMHO this pretty meh re-steal. Check with HRC though
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07-24-2018 , 11:20 PM
So, ive been balls deep in studying over at RunItOnce. I came across a video in which I found a formula to calculate our profitability of this JTs reshove.

we take the pot before the jam (1160) and multiply by the % of the time he folds(25% - he only OR 12% of time so i gave him 9% call shove range) then add that answer to our ev when called(-1111) multiplied by the other 75% of the time he calls and we play a 15736 chip pot with 35% equity..
so (2500 * 25%) + (-1111 * 75%) = -486 tournament chips. So we lose 486 chips on average. Boo yah baby. That is an awesome way to study rejam spots postgame!!!!

These numbers may not be exact from this hand but I think they are close enough to show us that this was not a profitable jam.
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07-25-2018 , 01:59 AM
HJ has to call so much and we have not bad but not great blockers. Would pref A5s to jam and JTs to flat deeper if we had to jam one and flat one 100 blinds deep.
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07-25-2018 , 08:39 PM
Agreed with killer, villain is gonna call far too often for you to want to shove with J high. When he calls with K8 you're going to hate your shove!
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07-26-2018 , 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Gooeyfied
So, ive been balls deep in studying over at RunItOnce. I came across a video in which I found a formula to calculate our profitability of this JTs reshove.

we take the pot before the jam (1160) and multiply by the % of the time he folds(25% - he only OR 12% of time so i gave him 9% call shove range) then add that answer to our ev when called(-1111) multiplied by the other 75% of the time he calls and we play a 15736 chip pot with 35% equity..
so (2500 * 25%) + (-1111 * 75%) = -486 tournament chips. So we lose 486 chips on average. Boo yah baby. That is an awesome way to study rejam spots postgame!!!!

These numbers may not be exact from this hand but I think they are close enough to show us that this was not a profitable jam.
Btw - if you are really interested in learning these concepts, I recommend MIT poker course, basic strategy lecture:
https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/sloan-sc...asic-strategy/

The instructor shows plots like this and recommend cool shortcuts for calculating required fold equity..
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07-26-2018 , 07:41 AM
I think I would prefer to see a resteal attempt from the blinds than the button. HJ call was awful and I'm pretty sure the SB was jamming no matter what the action in front of them was.
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07-26-2018 , 09:30 AM
The key element of a spot like this is you have to really understand your opponent. 43/27/0 isn't a LAG because he doesn't 3b and has a pretty wide gap between his vp/pfr. That gap is concerning because it indicates that he is actually passive with a large number of hands. Villains like that are more likely to call a 3b than someone who is a true LAG (say 32/30/11).
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07-28-2018 , 12:30 PM
Fold
Rather shove w A/x
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