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12-19-2020 , 10:45 AM
Hi all,

First time back here for a long time. Hopefully this is in the correct area to be posting in. Im playing mostly $10 buy in MTTs at the moment on stars.

Looking to do some range analysis. Would really appreciate some feedback to see how far off I am in terms of my ranges and villains. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated.

Gotta start somewhere. So here we go. Im looking at the following hand:

9 handed blinds 60/120 15 ante. I am in the BB. UTG opens for 258. BTN with +/- 70BB 3bets to just under 4x. We have 70BB.

I have just 20 odd hands on villain and in any case i'm more interested in looking at this from a more or less GTO angle to begin with.

Question 1)
What is our flatting range here? Would I be correct in saying that this is a dicey spot because when we do flat here we are quite capped and our range is then fairly well defined? I think that I flat a very narrow range here of

AQs, 99, TT, JJ (21 combos)

The 4x raise here vs UTG seems very strong but folding seems weak and raising into an UTG open and BTN 4x 3bet seems like I would often be value owning myself?

Im assigning villain a narrow range of JJ+, AKo, AKs, AQs, A4s + A5s (48 combos) - But maybe even this is generous considering its a small stakes MTT and taking into account population tendencies maybe the small suited aces aren't often in villain's range?

Question 2)

Seeing how the rest of the hand plays out what would your calling range look like on the turn and river? Im trying to look at this from a theoretical standpoint in order to practice with range analysis / MDF. So when villain bets less than half pot on the flop i need to defend roughly 70 %. If I drop 99 then that means my calling range on is 16 combos: AQs, JJ, TT.
On the turn I should theoretically defend ~70% leaving me with AQs, JJ, TT.
On the river If I'm supposed to call roughly ~60% then Im left with AQs and JJ as a bluff catcher - so theoretically I should call here with JJ ?


This is my first attempt so there may be errors here in my ranges or even method that you could drive a bus through. Thanks in advance




PokerStars - 60/120 Ante 15 NL - Holdem - 8 players

MP+1: 61.58 BB
CO: 37.46 BB
BTN: 62.2 BB
SB: 72.54 BB
Hero (BB): 69.24 BB
UTG: 37.56 BB
UTG+1: 52.07 BB
MP: 25.05 BB

8 players post ante of 0.13 BB, SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.5 BB) Hero has Js Jd
UTG raises to 2.15 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to 8.45 BB, Hero calls 7.45 BB, fold

Flop : (20.05 BB, 2 players) 2h 3s 7s
SB bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

Turn : (38.05 BB, 2 players) Qd
SB bets 15 BB, Hero calls 15 BB

River : (68.05 BB, 2 players) 8c
SB bets 39.97 BB and is all-in


*ps Apologies couldn't get the hand history converter to work for some reason
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12-19-2020 , 12:17 PM
Just want to correct this because it seems you meant to say SB 3bet and now BTN

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Originally Posted by pokerbetts
9 handed blinds 60/120 15 ante. I am in the BB. UTG opens for 258. SB with +/- 70BB 3bets to just under 4x. We have 70BB.
interesting hand, I don't have a good answer for you, although I probably would just fold my AQs, 99, TT in this spot and maybe even JJ just because a SB 3 bet vs an UTG open seems so nutted.

as played I think it's fine but I'd fold the river

PS the hand history converter never works, most of us on here use Upswings (or some other) hand history converter, if you google it they should just come right up
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12-20-2020 , 08:08 AM
@Captai-H

Thank you.

Im thinking after further consideration that this is probably a spot where we just shouldn't have a flatting range at all?

PPS * Is it difficult to post images here (of ranges screenshot for example). I see im asked for a URL . does anyone do it? I can't remeber seeing it in the past
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12-20-2020 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by pokerbetts

PPS * Is it difficult to post images here (of ranges screenshot for example). I see im asked for a URL . does anyone do it? I can't remeber seeing it in the past
You can use Imgur to post photos pretty easily (you might not even need an account). Try reading this thread here https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/3...hread-1511685/ . as someone else mentioned photobucket and imageshack are pretty outdated and you're just better off using Imgur. You can also use your phone if you have the Tapatalk app.



(this is BTN vs BBon A84ss)
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12-22-2020 , 06:11 AM
@Captain-Hindsight

Thank you very much
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12-28-2020 , 11:39 AM
Not having a calling range and just funnelling into 4b is one option. Strengthening your calling range with AA, AK, QQ and maybe KK is another.

Cash players like the former but as mtt players we benefit from survival/more caution. I'd rather fold 99-JJ AQs than engage through a flat with just that range. It's so easily defined and easy to polarise around and what are we really missing out on against 2 nutted ranges? Way better spots.

As played I'd fold turn.
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12-28-2020 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bearer
an what are we really missing out on against 2 nutted ranges? Way better spots.

As played I'd fold turn.

This makes sense to me. I like it, thanks.


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12-28-2020 , 05:25 PM
Sorry I misread. Thought 3bettor was btn not sb.

Principles are similar but if we strengthen our range by including some of those premium combos we will be able to make life difficult for sb who will probably cbet recklessly, and who should be more linear (practically weaker) than when btn.
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