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07-10-2020 , 04:59 AM

miguelin43

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Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 820

Hi guys

I am clueless how to play this spot. Should we:

1) Just call
2) 3bet (how much?)

Bounty was double than initial

Limper was 53/14, a passive player, he was constantly limping so not really afraid of a trap

Shover was a reg

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $9 Buy-in (60/120 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

SB: 9,865 (82.2 bb)
BB: 8,284 (69 bb)
UTG+2: 15,715 (131 bb)
MP1: 9,445 (78.7 bb)
MP2: 1,054 (8.8 bb)
MP3: 10,510 (87.6 bb)
CO: 10,425 (86.9 bb)
Hero (BTN): 9,425 (78.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A

UTG+2 calls 120, MP1 folds, MP2 raises to 1,039 and is all-in, 2 folds, Hero ????

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07-10-2020 , 07:39 AM

000Puh4u

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Join Date: Jun 2020 Posts: 322

Easy fold for me. If you call, there is a change you get squeezed from the Blinds or UTG.

In this situation, you can ask yourself how would you play if there is not a bounty? Would you call 9x jam? Probably not. Stick to fundamental poker and maybe slightly deviate when there is a bounty. I think I am even folding AJo here unless the bounty is really big.
A9s I think is too loose

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07-10-2020 , 08:23 AM

herbalerv

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Folding is not an option , not even remotely close.
You will never profit in PKOs if you play that way, maybe slightly deviate when half the prize pool is in bounties like what?
OP I would click it here, iso raise to something like 16 big blinds/1920 , if passive limper still wants to call we have a hand that can play well enough in position even in a bloated pot and if one of the blinds reopens the action we can reevaluate.

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07-10-2020 , 02:48 PM

oldgoat

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^ this
blinds will tend to play pretty honest - so we prob need to fold if we get 4bet - but will be pretty rare

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07-11-2020 , 09:14 PM

killer_kill

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Originally Posted by 000Puh4u

Why would it matter if there isn't a bounty to ponder here? The shove is like not even 10 blinds over a way too wide limper plus there's a bounty. The decision is whether we want to flat, minraise or maybe even jam to ISO the bounty.

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07-12-2020 , 04:07 AM

miguelin43

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Originally Posted by killer_kill

Why would it matter if there isn't a bounty to ponder here? The shove is like not even 10 blinds over a way too wide limper plus there's a bounty. The decision is whether we want to flat, minraise or maybe even jam to ISO the bounty.

In fact this was my question...how other people react to a call of 8 blinds? (i mean, people behind me)

My issue is this:

If blinds have a playable hand (not a premium) will they call to see a flop if i just call or they will fold it as 8 BB is still quite a lot? Should i 3bet to make sure blinds will not try their luck?

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07-12-2020 , 10:40 AM

streetwalkincheeta

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Starting stack is 10k?

My understanding is that a starting bounty is worth ~ third of a starting stack in PKOs, so that would mean there's about 6.66k in chips from the bounties. You probably want to fight for that.

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07-12-2020 , 08:03 PM

killer_kill

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Originally Posted by miguelin43

Prob CIB or jam depending on if you have reads.

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07-13-2020 , 09:50 AM

000Puh4u

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I stand corrected. Please disregard my previous comment. This is not a fold in PKO. I had spend some time discussing this format lately and it appears that we should play pretty lose vs short stacks when there are bounties.

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07-13-2020 , 07:31 PM

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killer_kill

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Yeah, the bounty is like a tangible value in the pot. In a pko the bounties on final tables make it basically as important as finishing 1st etc.

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