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Preflop mistake with JJ and 20 BB?

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04-17-2018 , 06:23 AM

miguelin43

adept

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 820

Hi guys

Limper is fishy 40/10

With so many chips on the pot already should i have just shoved and be done with it? is this a good move when you have around 20-25 BB with a hand like this (or TT or KQ)?

[converted_hand][hand_history]Poker Stars, $1.80 Buy-in (700/1,400 blinds, 175 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37933478

MP1: 40,400 (28.9 bb)
MP2: 37,215 (26.6 bb)
MP3: 30,428 (21.7 bb)
CO: 32,635 (23.3 bb)
Hero (BTN): 28,027 (20 bb)
SB: 23,817 (17 bb)
BB: 19,675 (14.1 bb)
UTG+1: 62,940 (45 bb)
UTG+2: 49,220 (35.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with J

3 folds, MP2 calls 1,400, 2 folds, Hero raises to 5,200, 2 folds, MP2 calls 3,800

Flop: (14,075) 8

(2 players)
MP2 bets 14,000, Hero folds

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04-17-2018 , 08:39 AM

Darth_Maul

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 4,435

Shoving 20bb over a limper with a hand like JJ is definitely the easier way to play the hand. I'd do the same with probably 77+/AQ+/ATs+. Not sure about KQ though - some risk with a player limp-calling with Ax.

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04-17-2018 , 02:07 PM

oldgoat

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,972

I think your line is fine - would prefer raise to shove IP in the long term - just unfortunate that we have to fold with this flop and action - sometimes it's a draw but can also easily be raggy ace.

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04-17-2018 , 09:34 PM

killer_kill

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 28,610

Seems fine. We block flush draws and JT so yea seems normal. His sizing and stats indicate he's a fish. Feel free to stab a lot of flops for small bets vs him, b/f a lot and c/f your air hands, don't c/r bluff etc.

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04-19-2018 , 11:08 AM

mttplayer

banned

Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 197

shove preflop makes it easier.
fold flop as played.

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04-20-2018 , 11:23 AM

nomalice

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 1,653

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Originally Posted by Darth_Maul

Shoving 20bb over a limper with a hand like JJ is definitely the easier way to play the hand.

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Originally Posted by mttplayer

shove preflop makes it easier.

You can shove aces also, it's easier.

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