Hi,

I'd like some input on this hand:

PokerStars - 25/50 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 58.68 BB
SB: 56.76 BB
BB: 43.14 BB
UTG: 60 BB
MP: 71.12 BB
CO: 76.3 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

UTG raises to 2.3 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 2.3 BB, SB raises to 10.5 BB, BB calls 9.5 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (25.6 BB, 2 players) K 6 8
SB checks, BB checks

Turn: (25.6 BB, 2 players) 9
SB checks, BB bets 26 BB, fold

BB wins 25.6 BB


I folded preflop cause I read that you need 15x the chips to set mine and I figured this guy's squeeze range was strong. I know 88 isn't a small pocket pair but was the fold correct?

I think so. You’d be calling 8 to win 25. It’s around 7.5:1 to flop a set and you’re getting 3:1 odds. Pretty easy fold regardless of what actually hits. Don’t want to get into huge pots when you’re just set hunting


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"I folded preflop cause I read that you need 15x the chips to set mine and I figured this guy's squeeze range was strong. I know 88 isn't a small pocket pair but was the fold correct?"


I don't know what 15x the chips means but with slightly better than 3:1 pot odds, in position, closing the action with almost 60bb's w/88... I think this is a perfect spot to call. Not to mention the implied odds. If he does have a big hand and we do hit set, it's probably unlikely he'll be able to get away from it and you'll be able to win a large pot.
He could still have hands we beat; AK, AQ plus possibility of him "spewin out" w bluffs, weaker hands (not that we should rely on this one aspect but it does happen at lower limits.

Either way, not the end of the world. Folded sets happen!

I think its a fold - its not just Squeezer's range we have to worry about - what is BB cold calling nearly 1/4 of his stack with? Stacks are not deep enough to set mine as people have said and we are going to be struggling to call a flop bet from either villain on most boards

Not really sure why you posted the flop it's irrelevant

Is bb a fish? If so, i’d call

Also do you make this thread if flop is AKQ? Lol

Fold imo


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Vs squeeze you can use this "15x" rule if you play only vs one guy.

Vs two guys, if you have a small pair, more than 15x, if you have a big one , less than 15x.

88 in this situation is more like small pair. Still you can take a worse price. A little bit. Let's say 13x. Very roughly...

You can win very big pot, but often you will be against set+. To the SD.... More often in this spot.

Easy fold, you shud only have 2 outs here most of the time.

It means the effective stack size needs to be 15x the amount I need to call in order to be profitable in the long run.

This is where I got it from:

I like blackRain79 too. As played, fold.
Other line possible : 3bet PF. Depends on reads etc... In this specific case I think you would have put money in the pot in best case scenario or you would have been 4 bet and knew it was time to fold. Just food for thoughts.