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11-13-2017 , 03:08 PM
I am recreational player (female), usually play the $230 saturday tournament at the PARX. Posting a hand for review.

Blinds 1K/2K/400 ante, 40K eff, I have about 50K
I raise from utg 4200 with AJdd, UTG+2 calls, CO calls, button calls and bb calls.
Pot now 25,600
Flop 874 rainbow, one diamond. All check
Turn 2d, I check, UTG2 bets 17500, cutoff calls, button folds, bb folds, I call.
River 3club.
I check, UTG2 goes all in for 17K, cutoff folds, I fold.
How should I have played the hand?
My image was tight aggressive (I think)
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11-14-2017 , 05:25 AM
This is a tough hand to play oop with your stacks versus a bunch of drooling stations ...

I would check shove the turn but idk if that's correct. It looks like he's stealing the pot and check shoving feels nutted. We still have 33% if we get called ... Like I said this is a real tough spot.

Last edited by nonsimplesimon; 11-14-2017 at 05:40 AM.
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11-14-2017 , 07:11 AM
pre is fine, flop fine, turn i like to lead here with a b 8-10k bet. As played i think is a fold/shove situation. The call is bad here because if u call you are pot comited.
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11-14-2017 , 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Rodream8
pre is fine, flop fine, turn i like to lead here with a b 8-10k bet. As played i think is a fold/shove situation. The call is bad here because if u call you are pot comited.
If you lead and he shoves you're calling off? If you lead and he shoves is he doing so with a wide range or a tight one? I kinda think it's the tighter side which makes a call off difficult for me and I feel like this hand is too strong to bet fold in this spot. The reason I said check shove is because I feel that shoving has some fold Equity if he does actually have a better hand than us even though mathematically it being incorrect for him to fold. What are your thoughts? Interesting spot.
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11-14-2017 , 12:54 PM
Tricky spot cause with implied odds, it's a clear call but when you miss like you do there is no way to play except folding. Could probably argue folding is the right play for your stack size but this is a tricky spot I have also found myself in also.
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11-15-2017 , 12:34 AM
If I have an inkling two or more people are calling my raise pre, then i reckon AJs could be a fold with stack sizes.

As played a small bet on the turn to buy the SD plus FE, if someone shoves then probably fold and still have 15-18BBs
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11-20-2017 , 07:42 AM
Preflop and flop are standard.

Checking the turn seems natural, since we'd like to get to a cheap river, but I think we get into some tough situations on these effective stack depths. That's what happened in the actual hand.

Check-calling a large bet is awkward and we don't have much fold equity to check-jam. So, any line where we check, we're forced to take a passive line and have to hit our hand on the river.

I kind of like a small lead on the turn to serve as a block bet and hopefully get a cheap river, maybe 1/4th pot. But, again, getting jammed on is really gross and puts us in a super awkward spot. Also, if we don't get jammed on, we'll likely be called, so we will need to hit the river in some way to win usually. Some players can also read through this small bet as a "blocker" bet and that could encourage them to call us down light or raise, etc. Anything we do here is pretty tough.

In the end, I like jamming the turn. The antes are high, so the pot is already big in this 5 way pot. There should be 25,600 in the pot on the turn, so we would be effectively jamming 35k-ish into 25,600 (not massively overbetting). Most of the players left to act would have likely bet the flop with their stronger hands and if the SB was trapping this type of flop, he likely would have led the turn. So, I think it's likely no one has better than one pair at best here. The times we do run into a hand, we have decent equity. Also, sometimes someone will call off with worse draws and we could actually be ahead.

The overbet may look like a semi-bluff, but live players could easily second guess themselves vs. what is perceived to be a tight UTG female player (no offense to OP, but I think females would get more credit in this spot by any male opponents, esp. if they are perceived as a tight/aggressive/solid player). Use this to your advantage OP

My semibluff turn jams would include Adxd (I open A2s-AKs preflop), all of my suited diamond broadways, and maybe some other diamond combos. My value turn jams would be 99+. I would check 99+ on this connected low flop 5 way OOP anyway (either to check-jam, check-call or check fold depending on my exact hand and the action), so I think these work as good value overbets on the turn. Esp. after everyone checks through the flop and after SB checks to us on the turn. Thoughts?
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