guy is solid reg, we didnt had any specific dynamic or whatever. toughts on the river ?

Think this is a clear call, you're at the top of your river range, villain can be vb worse and def can have some bluffs with line + you dont block diamonds and block some of his value range also.

i dont see many worse valuebets beside T9, since QQ+ otr will pbb be too thin unless he plans to bluff a lot here

i dont block KQ also which is huge part of his bet bet bet. i dont see good regs going balistics with flushdraws/Qxes on these kind of boards where i have all twopairs/straights and he'll be risking to fold some decent equity if get raised ott

not having diamond is great but ^ i believe they're on discount.

i just dont see this being so clear call if he's betting all of his fds/sds obv it's a snap but i dont think that's realistic.

i ll have some straights ocasionally in x call mode here since if we raise everything ott our calling range is weak af.

Don´t think this a clear call either vs that greedy sizing, and actually is a pretty stupid spot.
We def have 2p+ in our range and straights.
Tbh people are just betting 30-40% with overpair and TPTK , and he might even x/b some.
Just don´t see many bluffs here.

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Yup seems a fold vs utg

Considering that UTG may not always have 55, KQo or 87 here and we block JJ and 99, I'm not sure how we fold when all the front and backdoor fd's brick and we don't have a diamond or club. I get that it's something of a bluffcatcher but it's one of our better ones, and it isn't inconceivable that villain may occasionally overplay AJ or an overpair this way.

i forgot to mention that he shoved river for less than 3s so i excluded TPTK and overpairs because of that timing tell,i think it's right logic.

So in many river spots like this we can expect villain to give up with busted flush draws since they block our snap folds. If however, he correctly assesses our turn calling range; which will include many pair+draw hands on this texture; he should be following through most of the time on the river with a busted flush draw since he has a reasonable number of value hands that would 3 barrel; and he can expect us to fold our QT QJ KJ KT etc...on the river. I think its a call. Just barely.

can someone tell me something about check raising turn in our spot and how should our range look there

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Just use brains to figure it out.

that was really helpful and mature, i appreciate it.

I mean srsly.
Made hands and draws w/ blockers
Can widen value range if opp overdoes but it would've added some variance as well.

Think J9o is pretty wide pre vs utg open but w/e. Obv you have evry KQ, 87 combo, and possibly every set, depending on utg's rfi from ep. Would think JT excluding JTcc, close to bottom of value, and add some % of Axcc and combo(86-76)cc/dd

ty now... i was thinking precisely about J9o and would it fit into the x r shove ott... it just seems kind of thin vs calling range

I really don't see anyway around calling down tbh. Villain was even kind enough to not shove.

pio says we shouldnt be raising turn with 2p here, playing call call is better

obv also says call river

It's a little bit annoying/scary with his sizings but yeah I'm not folding this hand.

Not sure why we wouldn't call considering that river card missed everything. Only real hands that beat us are 55,10. We have blockers to JJ and 99 and we have no diamonds or clubs, so this could very well easily be a bluff or as someone mentioned can be triple barrelling with a hand like AJ

Obv is obv, but what did you did?
Not an easy spot imo.

i folded. tought that i have bigger edges than calling this one down vs specific field on good structure even with 20bbs ( and ended 3rd KK<QQ ) since i was 100% sure that it aint nobrain fistpump call since i ll bust nice semi pretty often that way. not sure if that's calculatable in postflop situations