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hi, just wondering what peoples standard play is here given our stack, or is it ever more villain dependent? 3b/c versus aggro opponents if we have some sort of aggro dynamic, or just 3b Jam versus more most straight forward opponents? could be good spot to 3b/f as a bluff occasionally?

villain is 23/12/3.4 over only 57 hands

Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (150/300 blinds, 40 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #25817831

BB: 11,100 (37 bb)
UTG+2: 13,473 (44.9 bb)
MP1: 9,438 (31.5 bb)
MP2: 10,695 (35.7 bb)
MP3: 17,590 (58.6 bb)
Hero (CO): 6,534 (21.8 bb)
BTN: 31,532 (105.1 bb)
SB: 8,395 (28 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A

UTG+2 raises to 600, 3 folds, Hero raises to 6,494 and is all-in, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls 5,894

Flop: (13,758) 9

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (13,758) 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (13,758) 9

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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Just jam with your stack. Looks weaker than 3b and we aren't obv folding ever.

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04-20-2014 , 10:11 AM

#277

dozer

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Need confirmation that shoving t7200 on the button w/ QJo is the right play at 500/1000/a100 in local live tourney, especially with four limpers already in.

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04-24-2014 , 07:44 PM

#278

Puzo

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Originally Posted by dozer

Need confirmation that shoving t7200 on the button w/ QJo is the right play at 500/1000/a100 in local live tourney, especially with four limpers already in.

Confirmed ok. Now run goot!

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04-25-2014 , 02:17 AM

#279

camz2895

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Originally Posted by dozer

Need confirmation that shoving t7200 on the button w/ QJo is the right play at 500/1000/a100 in local live tourney, especially with four limpers already in.

Meh I never see it getting folded around. Live nits love limping hands like 77-99 and AQ and will snap you off

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04-25-2014 , 01:02 PM

#280

MatteoBounce

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vs unknown

Poker Stars, $10 Buy-in (4,000/8,000 blinds, 800 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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Hero (BB): 201,088 (25.1 bb)
UTG+1: 150,876 (18.9 bb)
UTG+2: 211,324 (26.4 bb)
MP1: 190,500 (23.8 bb)
MP2: 155,112 (19.4 bb)
MP3: 114,360 (14.3 bb)
CO: 308,328 (38.5 bb)
BTN: 112,904 (14.1 bb)
SB: 163,398 (20.4 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2

7 folds, SB completes, Hero checks

Flop: (23,200) 2

(2 players)
SB bets 16,000, Hero calls 16,000

Turn: (55,200) 6

(2 players)
SB bets 36,000, Hero raises to 176,288 and is all-in, SB folds

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90% sure jamming pre is the way to go. just need some confirm.
thoughts as played?
is a random not double barreling enough = call ott?

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04-25-2014 , 01:20 PM

#281

camz2895

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He big both streets which would lead me to believe you don't have much FE

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04-25-2014 , 06:57 PM

#282

gamboneee

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def not interested in checking pre, but even if you have no fe; pair and nfd sounds better than calling turn

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04-28-2014 , 07:13 AM

#283

ratio946

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ahh man properly butchered this one boys....

less than 100 runners left out of 4857

$1+R on Stars. (3x Turbo)

http://www.boomplayer.com/poker-hand...034_F65777056C

hate my betsizing throughout, I should probaly just 3 x pre given how deep me and the BB are, plus he had been sticky

thoughts on flop?

not being results biased, still played the hand horribly had i binked the spade, in game i expected him to have a pretty wide x/r range, even as bad as overs with a spade.

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04-28-2014 , 01:56 PM

#284

Puzo

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Originally Posted by ratio946

Pre is standard. I'd go smaller OTF and not folding after c-bet.

Ps: convert your hand next time.

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04-29-2014 , 04:29 AM

#285

ratio946

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thanks Puzo, should we not be adjusting our preflop raise size depending on stack depth and villain tendencies?

Do you prefer a check back on this flop? Did I make an ICM boo boo?

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04-29-2014 , 07:09 AM

#286

Puzo

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Originally Posted by ratio946

thanks Puzo, should we not be adjusting our preflop raise size depending on stack depth and villain tendencies?

Do you prefer a check back on this flop? Did I make an ICM boo boo?

Of course we can and should adjust depending on different things. Here we are ~25bb deep eff. With position and strong hand. I wouldn't want villain to fold pf. I want him to call and reraise with wide range and small raise does this better than bigger one.

I would not check this flop and not worry about ICM either when there is still a lot of players left.

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05-02-2014 , 02:11 PM

#287

Inepsyrrr

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It's the 3r€ storm in stars.fr. We're in late game in the money (around 60 players left). Villain is a nit. Std fold with 44 here?

PokerStars - €2.70+€0.30|12500/25000 Ante 2500 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 652,574
UTG+1: 275,598
UTG+2: 921,849
MP: 489,249
MP+1: 362,882
Hero (CO): 254,368
BTN: 256,605
SB: 605,933
BB: 95,439

9 players post ante of 2,500, SB posts SB 12,500, BB posts BB 25,000

Pre Flop: (pot: 60,000) Hero has 4

fold, UTG+1 raises to 50,000, fold, fold, fold, Hero ?

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05-02-2014 , 02:25 PM

#288

Puzo

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Originally Posted by Inepsyrrr

fold, UTG+1 raises to 50,000, fold, fold, fold, Hero ?

Snapfold

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05-05-2014 , 11:34 AM

#289

DjHitzz

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Only had 15 hands on V. This was mid way through, reg closed and still far from the bubble. Standard when he clicks it back?

Poker Stars $5.00+$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t250/t500 Blinds + t60 - 9 players

UTG: t10520 M = 8.16
UTG+1: t6530 M = 5.06
UTG+2: t8241 M = 6.39
MP1: t10130 M = 7.85
MP2: t20488 M = 15.88
Hero (CO): t21092 M = 16.35
BTN: t31965 M = 24.78
SB: t5228 M = 4.05
BB: t15549 M = 12.05

Pre Flop: (t1290) Hero is CO with T

UTG calls t500, 2 folds, MP1 calls t500, 1 fold, Hero raises to t2500, BTN calls t2500, 4 folds

Flop: (t7290) 6

(2 players)
Hero bets t4884, BTN raises to t9768, Hero raises to t18532 all in, BTN calls t8764

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05-07-2014 , 07:15 PM

#290

50satang

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In the money in a 1500 entrants tourney on PS

UTG+1 limp/folds alot in early position
SB likes to see flop

SNGwiz2/Holdem Resources suggest push with 99+,AQ+
I had around 18BB, Is there another way to play this hand
Folding seems nitty
Limp behind and see the flop with this stacksize in postion?

Poker Stars, Micro Buy-in (1,250/2,500 blinds, 250 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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Hero (BTN): 45,389 (18.2 bb)
SB: 71,843 (28.7 bb)
BB: 217,054 (86.8 bb)
UTG+1: 51,438 (20.6 bb)
UTG+2: 50,367 (20.1 bb)
MP1: 51,723 (20.7 bb)
MP2: 87,078 (34.8 bb)
MP3: 190,717 (76.3 bb)
CO: 19,936 (8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with K

UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls 2,500, 4 folds, Hero raises to 45,139 and is all-in, SB calls 43,889, 2 folds

Flop: (97,528) 2

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (97,528) 4

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (97,528) 7

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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05-08-2014 , 12:22 AM

#291

nonsimplesimon

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I think im ok with it. Too bad sb woke up.

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05-08-2014 , 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by DjHitzz

UTG calls t500, 2 folds, MP1 calls t500, 1 fold, Hero raises to t2500, BTN calls t2500, 4 folds

Flop: (t7290) 6

(2 players)
Hero bets t4884, BTN raises to t9768, Hero raises to t18532 all in, BTN calls t8764

This is a super ****ty spot but I don't think there's any other way seeingst we start with 40bb and by the raise otf we are at 25 bb invested. There's enough semi bluffs in their range that I am ok gii. Not loving It though. If he has like two overs and a flush draw we are actually behind.

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05-08-2014 , 01:31 AM

#293

Puzo

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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon

I think im ok with it. Too bad sb woke up.

If blinds are passive we can also iso-raise small and play vs UTG+1 in position, but this is only good if we know that blinds don't re-steal our iso-raise light. Otherwise its better to shove and fold their small pair/Ax type of hands.

We are a bit short to make this kind of play, but I don't think its that bad in passive table.

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05-08-2014 , 01:38 AM

#294

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Originally Posted by DjHitzz

UTG calls t500, 2 folds, MP1 calls t500, 1 fold, Hero raises to t2500, BTN calls t2500, 4 folds

Flop: (t7290) 6

(2 players)
Hero bets t4884, BTN raises to t9768, Hero raises to t18532 all in, BTN calls t8764

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Originally Posted by nonsimplesimon

Not loving it either, but I don't know how else to play it.

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05-09-2014 , 05:18 AM

#295

Puzo

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Villain is 47/13 in 34 hands. Only hand I remember from him was when he opened A8o 2.2x and called a 2.5x 3b OOP (HJ vs CO). He min bet 776r flop and called a 7x raise from 3-bettor. Turn and riv where J and T and it went c/c.

These are often weak draws or weak made hands OTF and OTT and when this kind of villain changes his betting size that much he prolly has it almost always. Does anyone do anything different OTF or OTT? River is an ez fold, right?

Poker Stars, $15 Buy-in (60/120 blinds, 15 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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SB: 15,252 (127.1 bb)
BB: 3,615 (30.1 bb)
UTG+1: 2,667 (22.2 bb)
UTG+2: 8,045 (67 bb)
Hero (MP1): 2,874 (24 bb)
MP2: 5,466 (45.6 bb)
MP3: 7,810 (65.1 bb)
CO: 2,851 (23.8 bb)
BTN: 9,611 (80.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T

2 folds, Hero raises to 264, 4 folds, SB calls 204, BB folds

Flop: (783) J

(2 players)
SB bets 120, Hero calls 120

Turn: (1,023) 6

(2 players)
SB bets 120, Hero calls 120

River: (1,263) 5

(2 players)
SB bets 840

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05-10-2014 , 10:00 AM

#296

DjHitzz

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Nh, I would of played it the same.

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05-11-2014 , 08:51 PM

#297

HUHandEH

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WTF happened to FURO?

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05-12-2014 , 04:57 AM

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05-19-2014 , 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by HUHandEH

WTF happened to FURO?

Wat? Who?

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05-19-2014 , 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Puzo

2 folds, Hero raises to 264, 4 folds, SB calls 204, BB folds

Flop: (783) J

(2 players)
SB bets 120, Hero calls 120

Turn: (1,023) 6

(2 players)
SB bets 120, Hero calls 120

River: (1,263) 5

(2 players)
SB bets 840

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Probably not the best spot to hero call but wtf is he doing? I so wanna know!!!

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