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I doubt if hero has any FE at all so I'd say he's calling with sizable chunk if not all of it. It's close - I'd say defo 66-77 and 33-44 is meh as well as position.... I'd fold it if it were any earlier than the CO/HJ but easily gii otb. 55+co is the sour spot...

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04-02-2014 , 12:47 PM

#253

nonsimplesimon

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Originally Posted by Puzo

Mr pre. B/f smaller. You are losing about 1bb too much in this hand and thats quite much.

100% this - good attention to detail!

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04-09-2014 , 08:25 AM

#254

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You say you think you're doing well against his range...what do you think his opening range is and how much of it do u think he's calling you with?

ill guess something near 50% and something near 20%. calling range highly depends on his perception of you. if hes actually never been 3b (jammed on) he should be quite wide, and he should be sigh folding/calling a large % of his open range

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04-11-2014 , 03:44 PM

#255

unblvblx

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Pacific, $3.60 Buy-in (800/1,600 blinds, 160 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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Hero (MP3): 22,783 (14.2 bb)
CO: 24,976 (15.6 bb)
BTN: 34,152 (21.3 bb)
SB: 2,918 (1.8 bb)
BB: 48,308 (30.2 bb)
UTG+1: 23,702 (14.8 bb)
UTG+2: 58,196 (36.4 bb)
MP1: 57,746 (36.1 bb)
MP2: 32,208 (20.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A

UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to 3,200, 2 folds, Hero raises to 22,623 and is all-in, 2 folds, SB calls 1,958 and is all-in, BB folds, UTG+2 calls 19,423

Flop: (51,044) 3

(3 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (51,044) 7

(3 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (51,044) 2

(3 players, 2 are all-in)

Villain's 14/10 after 70 hands. Do you fold in this spot on 14bb, or is this jam justified?

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04-11-2014 , 11:46 PM

#256

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^ perfect!

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04-12-2014 , 05:36 AM

#257

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[hand_history]Pacific, $2.70 Buy-in (1,500/3,000 blinds, 300 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
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BTN: 103,867 (34.6 bb)
SB: 24,007 (8 bb)
BB: 43,856 (14.6 bb)
UTG+2: 45,585 (15.2 bb)
MP1: 37,792 (12.6 bb)
MP2: 38,567 (12.9 bb)
MP3: 71,542 (23.8 bb)
Hero (CO): 35,907 (12 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q

4 folds, Hero raises to 35,607 and is all-in, BTN raises to 103,567 and is all-in, 2 folds

Flop: (78,114) Q

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
Turn: (78,114) 4

(2 players, 2 are all-in)
River: (78,114) 3

(2 players, 2 are all-in)

What range do you shove here vs pretty tight, not so aggresive guys on 12bb? 46 left in the tournament. Preflop pot is 1/5 of my stack, so considering they pretty tight calling range, which imo consists of: 22+,A2s+,K9s+,Q9s+,J9s+,T9s,98s,87s,A2o+,KTo+,QTo+ ,JTo,T9o,98o, I think shoving basically any two or most of my range is going to be EV+ since population tendencies at low stakes indicate that people are shoving and calling too narrow range in push/fold phase. What's your opinion on this?

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04-13-2014 , 12:42 AM

#258

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Again nh! I usually ship when I've got two suited cards that are 6 or higher in this spot.

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04-13-2014 , 05:40 AM

#259

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Glad to hear that.

Pacific, $6.35 Buy-in (150/300 blinds, 30 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
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BB: 1,780 (5.9 bb)
UTG+2: 12,970 (43.2 bb)
MP1: 13,187 (44 bb)
Hero (MP2): 7,268 (24.2 bb)
MP3: 21,858 (72.9 bb)
CO: 3,645 (12.2 bb)
BTN: 1,928 (6.4 bb)
SB: 11,801 (39.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q

UTG+2 raises to 750, MP1 folds, Hero calls 750, 5 folds

Flop: (2,190) 8

(2 players)
UTG+2 bets 1,200, Hero calls 1,200

Turn: (4,590) J

(2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks

River: (4,590) K

(2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets 2,222, UTG+2 folds

Villain's 24/20/15,8 3b 100f3b after 47 hands. Don't really like 3b here because he isn't that loose and can't afford 3b/f in this spot I think, so decided to flat. What do you do otf? CH/R? Shouldn't I be leading the turn for protection since there's straight and flush draw? After he checks otr pretty standard value bet, what about sizing?

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04-13-2014 , 06:16 AM

#260

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Can't edit my post and would like to ask about other not really complicated hand.

Full Tilt, 30/60 blinds No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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SB: 2,330 (38.8 bb)
BB: 2,571 (42.9 bb)
UTG+1: 4,465 (74.4 bb)
Hero (UTG+2): 2,195 (36.6 bb)
MP1: 3,825 (63.8 bb)
MP2: 2,136 (35.6 bb)
MP3: 2,989 (49.8 bb)
CO: 7,155 (119.3 bb)
BTN: 2,267 (37.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with J

UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to 180, MP1 calls 180, 6 folds

Flop: (450) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets 250, MP1 calls 250

Turn: (950) A

(2 players)
Hero bets 450, MP1 raises to 900, Hero folds

Standard cbet, might be little bigger I think, worst turn card but still have to bet, and what against such a small 3bet? Calling this means calling any bet on the river, so do you fold here as I did? Guy's 43/0/0 after 7 hands, he's a fish squeezing 420 into 240 pot and calling a jam from a guy on 30bb with ATs.

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04-13-2014 , 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by unblvblx

Glad to hear that.

UTG+2 raises to 750, MP1 folds, Hero calls 750, 5 folds

Flop: (2,190) 8

(2 players)
UTG+2 bets 1,200, Hero calls 1,200

Turn: (4,590) J

(2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero checks

River: (4,590) K

(2 players)
UTG+2 checks, Hero bets 2,222, UTG+2 folds

I would bet the turn for value. When you do that it looks more floaty and if he has any kind of a draw or an ace he might peel. Plus at 20~ bb we need value. Its not really a pot control spot but if you checked to induce that's interesting.

Some will say to 3b pre and the flop which both of those are extremely valid options. Tbh I would've likely have done both.

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04-13-2014 , 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by unblvblx

Can't edit my post and would like to ask about other not really complicated hand.

UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to 180, MP1 calls 180, 6 folds

Flop: (450) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets 250, MP1 calls 250

Turn: (950) A

(2 players)
Hero bets 450, MP1 raises to 900, Hero folds

Im ok with bf ott vs this guy.

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04-13-2014 , 11:35 AM

#263

unblvblx

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Thanks for your input.

Full Tilt, 1,200/2,400 blinds, 300 ante No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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Hero (UTG+1): 67,686 (28.2 bb)
UTG+2: 177,295 (73.9 bb)
MP1: 61,880 (25.8 bb)
MP2: 46,778 (19.5 bb)
MP3: 46,179 (19.2 bb)
CO: 100,749 (42 bb)
BTN: 114,824 (47.8 bb)
SB: 45,549 (19 bb)
BB: 64,758 (27 bb)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A

Hero raises to 5,000, UTG+2 raises to 15,999, 7 folds, Hero raises to 67,386 and is all-in, UTG+2 calls 51,387

Flop: (141,072) 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (141,072) 9

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (141,072) Q

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Is there any other line than rejam this deep? Villain's a chipleader at the moment, he just sat to my table and was 60/60/50 3bet after 5 hands, so he was capabe of doing this light I think, even if you take sizing into consideration. Do you get it in or flat and play it postflop? 18 left in this tournament, my stack was little above avg I think.

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04-14-2014 , 11:17 PM

#264

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Hi, just wondering what is the bottom of peoples 3b jam range is in this spot. 8 left in 6 max 1.5k gtd i think. villain is 37/32/19 over 166 hands, 45% rfi

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Poker Stars, $8 Buy-in (700/1,400 blinds, 175 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 4 Players
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SB: 35,317 (25.2 bb)
BB: 42,687 (30.5 bb)
CO: 187,383 (133.8 bb)
Hero (BTN): 17,027 (12.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 6

CO raises to 3,105, Hero raises to 16,852 and is all-in, 2 folds, CO calls 13,747

Flop: (36,504) 5

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (36,504) 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (36,504) T

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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04-14-2014 , 11:56 PM

#265

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hi, just wondering what peoples standard play is here given our stack, or is it ever more villain dependent? 3b/c versus aggro opponents if we have some sort of aggro dynamic, or just 3b Jam versus more most straight forward opponents? could be good spot to 3b/f as a bluff occasionally?

villain is 23/12/3.4 over only 57 hands

Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (150/300 blinds, 40 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
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BB: 11,100 (37 bb)
UTG+2: 13,473 (44.9 bb)
MP1: 9,438 (31.5 bb)
MP2: 10,695 (35.7 bb)
MP3: 17,590 (58.6 bb)
Hero (CO): 6,534 (21.8 bb)
BTN: 31,532 (105.1 bb)
SB: 8,395 (28 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A

UTG+2 raises to 600, 3 folds, Hero raises to 6,494 and is all-in, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls 5,894

Flop: (13,758) 9

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (13,758) 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (13,758) 9

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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04-15-2014 , 06:31 PM

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Boss, $10 Buy-in (350/700 blinds) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 10 Players
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SB: 20,153 (28.8 bb)
BB: 4,001 (5.7 bb)
UTG: 12,638 (18.1 bb)
UTG+1: 3,647 (5.2 bb)
UTG+2: 14,082 (20.1 bb)
Hero (15/14)(MP1): 12,508 (17.9 bb)
MP2: 5,442 (7.8 bb)
MP3: 23,916 (34.2 bb)
CO: 21,001 (30 bb)
BTN: 21,395 (30.6 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7

2 folds, UTG+2 raises to 2,012, 7 folds
Hero?!

My thoughts/question on this: Villain (34/11 over 331 hands) doesn't seem to be positionally aware. He opened 1,4k-1,5k a few times in this blindlevel and allmost allways minraised the levels before. In this spot he opens bigger. For me a sign of strength?! Thoughts?!

As calling is not an option, its a push or fold for me.

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04-16-2014 , 03:48 PM

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Preflop spot, what should be te standard play here?
Push? Fold? minraise/fold?

Poker Stars, $8 Buy-in (2,000/4,000 blinds, 400 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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BTN: 88,648 (22.2 bb)
Hero (SB): 52,555 (13.1 bb)
BB: 55,634 (13.9 bb)
UTG+1: 114,091 (28.5 bb)
UTG+2: 63,442 (15.9 bb)
MP1: 20,797 (5.2 bb)
MP2: 110,974 (27.7 bb)
MP3: 83,167 (20.8 bb)
CO: 36,804 (9.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q

7 folds, Hero raises to 8,000, BB raises to 55,234 and is all-in, Hero folds

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04-17-2014 , 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Dominik07

Preflop spot, what should be te standard play here?
Push? Fold? minraise/fold?

7 folds, Hero raises to 8,000, BB raises to 55,234 and is all-in, Hero folds

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Don't think I'm minraise folding in this spot readless. It depends on the villain and his level of thinking, but I'm trying to limp with hands like these and small cbet on any board. Limping looks pretty inducing, and if he has a hand that he rejams, he's gonna do it either way, so you save yourself 1 bb. I wouldn't be happy to jam Q7o on 13bb vs BB who's on the same stack as me, so I think limping and cbeting > folding > jaming > as played, but curious about other opinions.

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04-17-2014 , 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by fackerfranz

2 folds, UTG+2 raises to 2,012, 7 folds
Hero?!

In this spot I'm folding considering your position and his image. He's loose passive, so when he opens 3x he's always got AJ+, and pocket pairs like 88+ or something like that, so mostly it's going to be a flip, but there are 6 players after you. If you are on BB I'd consider a rejam, but I wouldn't go in this spot, you can find a better situations with your stack probably.

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04-17-2014 , 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by puntingstacks

UTG+2 raises to 600, 3 folds, Hero raises to 6,494 and is all-in, 3 folds, UTG+2 calls 5,894

Flop: (13,758) 9

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
Turn: (13,758) 8

(2 players, 1 is all-in)
River: (13,758) 9

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

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I'd never 3b fold AKs on 22bb vs any villain, your hand's simply too strong. Don't like 3b tbh, your stack isn't that big to be happy to 3b and get a flop like that. You're loosing about 1/2 of your stack for a 3b and then cbet, and on such bad flops you're having hard time calling he's rejam, because your behind most of the time. Rejaming is just simplier.

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04-18-2014 , 03:41 PM

#271

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Standard shove or too loose?

Poker Stars, $5 Buy-in (100/200 blinds, 25 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
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SB: 11,501 (57.5 bb)
BB: 8,553 (42.8 bb)
UTG+1: 15,228 (76.1 bb)
UTG+2: 9,805 (49 bb)
MP1: 13,729 (68.6 bb)
Hero (MP2): 2,458 (12.3 bb)
MP3: 11,938 (59.7 bb)
CO: 3,111 (15.6 bb)
BTN: 3,851 (19.3 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 8

3 folds, Hero raises to 2,433 and is all-in

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04-20-2014 , 01:43 AM

#272

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Standard shove or too loose?

3 folds, Hero raises to 2,433 and is all-in

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I think its ok.

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04-20-2014 , 01:59 AM

#273

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Originally Posted by Dominik07

Standard shove or too loose?

3 folds, Hero raises to 2,433 and is all-in

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04-20-2014 , 02:01 AM

#274

Puzo

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Originally Posted by unblvblx

Mostly this. We are not doing that good against villains range snd there is bunch of players still to act after us.

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04-20-2014 , 02:03 AM

#275

Puzo

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Originally Posted by Dominik07

Preflop spot, what should be te standard play here?
Push? Fold? minraise/fold?

7 folds, Hero raises to 8,000, BB raises to 55,234 and is all-in, Hero folds

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Ez jam

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